Camino LS6

Which year? Pic?

F-bodys are a lot of car for the money these days - if you choose wisely

Actually, I agree. I'm not worried though as I believe GM will do the right thing on this. Even if the exterior changes are somewhat restrained, I would expect them to be far more extensive than the GTO changes were. This is a car designed to work as a GMNA model from the start and I expect a great deal of variation and model refresh was baked in at the beginning. EDIT: I'm pretty confident that this car will be differentiated at least as well as the 900s have been.

Way too close to home even here, in Chester County. Had to be very freaky for you,OCN.

Ocn: I thnk you'll be pleased with the car we eventually get. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that the car we see in Chicago is not the car we actually end up with entirely. I expect that refinement will continue even past the show dates.

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Gotta love Uncle Bob.

Thanks Z. Lately, I've been imagining all these high-quality, niche vehicles showing-up in Buick,Pontiac, and Chevy showrooms and it's been making me smile. GM could make a bunch of them happen for far less than just the Camaro will cost them to do.

Don't forget, the VE chassis is slated to be replaced with the GMNA Zeta rather quickly. This brings the flexibility of producing the same car(s) to both continents.

Try this scenario out for size: It is fast becoming obvious to me that Oshawa won't be able to handle all of the Zeta variants that seem bound for production. With that in mind, Holden becomes an obvious source for a few models in limited numbers which might work as the initial way to get some of these cars to market. Long term they won't be able to handle the volume of any Zeta that sells more than 20k/year or so. But what is to stop GM from getting a limited supply of VE based cars sent here as premium models for various GMNA brands while capacity to build more Zetas here is ramped-up? These models could be rotated through with GMNA taking over production of models with real volume potential as capacity allows. So, say we get a G8/Grand Prix based on the Commodore first and if the demand is there it moves to domestic production at higher volume. Holden then could fill the volume it loses with a Statesman in Buick clothes, and a Ute as a new El Camino. This way, we get what we want more quickly and GM establishes a system to respond rapidly to shifting demand both here and in Australia. The entire range of Zeta/VE cars gets a much wider exposure with the flexibility to shift models and production from market to market as required. Holden is brilliant when it comes to getting the most out of an architecture. The sheer number of variants it produces from a single basic structure is staggering. This opens up the opportunity for a long parade of niche cars coming to the US in rotation, helping to keep the GMNA lineups fresh over time. Some may stay as niche players while others move to wider domestic production. I believe that VE/Zeta has the potential to be the most important GM car architecture since the "A" and "G" body cars of the past. Finally, GM has been looking for ways to make the Holden/GMNA connection work for a VERY long time so I doubt you will see a simple, cheap re-badge at all.

The fall meet of the Historical Car Club of Pennsylvania takes place on Sunday the 15th at Delaware County Community College from 9:00 A.M. until 3:00 P.M. I expect to be there.

You read my mind on that one,Oldsmoboi.

must... keep.... quiet.... AHHHHHHHHH

I saw one too, it's like a slightly shrunken,even uglier version of the G6. From the pics he posted, I see why I often disagree with BV. Yuck to the whole batch.

A new Ford GT in Gulf livery in my backyard!

I'll go you one better: RWD plus manual plus V8! I have 3 parked in the garage right now. :AH-HA_wink:

Nope, wrong college. It is in Media right off of 252. I think it's this weekend or next - I'll check it out and post the exact date.

My cars are all fair game too, I won't promise to be nice about the results though... :AH-HA_wink: Link:http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=11294&pid=199892&st=0entry199892 Each car has more pics at other links, use whichever ones you want.

OK, I've thought this one over and... I LOVE THE IDEA! As the Founder of The Underground , I officially endorse this project and announce myself to be a "Friend Of The Guild" Count me in.

1955 Dodge

I really wish I could have been there, sorry to have missed you OCN. This auction was my "ace in the hole" to get a couple of cars sold so I'll have to get really creative about raising money now. But, family comes first and I'll find a way to manage. On a lighter note, I really miss getting to the local/semi-local car shows I enjoy so much. I have missed way too many over the last few years. So, I'm going to do my best to make the next big local show. It is the yearly finale of the Pennsylvania Historic Car Club show at Delaware County Community College. Huge show with cars of all makes, models and vintages along with many vendors. Best of all it's just a few miles down the road so I have no conflict about attending.

I love the way you put it BV, nice take on the change. I too say Ahhh. I love Autumn.

Hmm...

Autumn,hands down. Spring is a solid second place. I enjoy Winter. Summer is just hell, glad it's over.