Camino LS6

That is one ugly butt.

OCN: That was simply priceless!

This can only help the resurgence of road course racing with real cars. I already miss what NASCAR once was, I won't miss what it has become - even if Toyota wasn't involved. Death to NASCAR!

It's just that it is the latest in a long line of money grubbing moves which have steadily destroyed what was once an interesting race series.

Fixed. :AH-HA_wink:

Interesting to be "south" of this debate. I'm not used to hearing stuff like this about Canada other than the Language Laws in Quebec. I have gotten an earful about that issue over the years.

NASCAR is dead, it just doesn't know it yet. I checked out that site and wow, it's a debate between 2 factions of mental defectives.

They've been working on this for years, I'm glad to see it get to this point. This makes so much more sense than fuel cells.

Old automatic cars have an advantage once stuck in snow: it is so much easier to rock an old car to get it unstuck thanks to new cars forcing you to apply the brake before shifting into reverse. I really wish the safety nazis would back-off.

Although I'd rather have to drive a manual Chevette in winter than an auto.

I think all drivers should have some experience with FWD, RWD, manual, and automatic.

Side note: our server is acting goofy,Z. Posted my last 3 times Internal server error Then I goofed and deleted the wrong post

Downshifting for the purpose of engine braking is harmless. Downshifting for power to teach that pesky ricer a lesson can be another story. Good idea on the practice vehicle.

BTW: snow and ice are whole categories of driving unto themselves regardless of the drive wheels.

Yes, that can be a problem and I do the same as you. Too many drivers are "brake pedal addicts" who stab the brakes automatically when presented with any unforeseen change in traffic.

One of the best exercises for learning to really control your car I've found is to not use your brakes if you can avoid it. This exercise is limited with an automatic but works like a charm in a manual FWD or RWD. It forces you to anticipate a bit more and results in a smoother drive with less stress. I have made it a discipline of mine to drive this way( I do catch myself forgetting sometimes). I also will try to find a speed at which I can keep moving in a traffic backup - great for discipline as well. You will find yourself not tailgating and less surprised by someone else stopping suddenly in front of you.

I'm just now realizing what a tragedy it is that so many people have never learned to drive a RWD car. A whole generation of inexperience coming home to roost. Pay attention to what you are doing and you will be fine FWD or RWD. Get to know the car and it's parameters before you need to make any emergency moves behind the wheel. If you want to understand your RWD car, disable the traction control and make the car spin a few times, then you will have a better feel for the dynamics involved. Spinning the tail of a RWD car can be part of controlling it, it will have a predictable response to a given input. When an FWD car slides, your options are more limited as it will tend to plow and all input involves the front wheels while the rears are simply along for the ride. With RWD, a skid or spin can be corrected by proper use of steering, brakes, and accelerator in the right combination and with the right timing. This inherent advantage is why RWD dominates motorsports, but you have to learn how it works first. Experiment and find the limits of the car in safe conditions,practice each input and note its effect on the car, then do it again and again. Eventually, the correct input will become second nature and you will truly begin to understand why RWD is so beloved by enthusiasts and racers. FWD may be "plug and play" and "idiot proof" but it cannot give the same measure of control and feedback that RWD can. It's like comparing a Chevette to a Corvette, both can be docile and competent and both can kill you. However, only the Corvette offers control at the limits and the competence of capability at all speeds. But you have to know how.

Burj Dubai is the ultimate in terrorist bait. And in the Middle East ,no less.

I suspect that the scale of these buildings will give them a presence that a CG image cannot convey.

I hope I always remember to give the gunman the finger.

No. The alternative is craven cowardice. Building the tallest building in the world on this spot is the best response. A collective "up-yours" to Al Queda.

Love the sig quote, Balthazar.

Nope. Wear a C&G shirt or hat. :AH-HA_wink:

And it still horrifies. And the beasts still plot against us. Never forget.

Though I prefer GM offerings, the F150 and the Mustang have no place on this list. Those two vehicles are something Ford still knows how to do the way they should be done.