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I was thinking something with a 3D look to it... the shields turned slightly in place, or something like that.

But that's just it, the 3900 is very poor on fuel economy... the 3800 was much better! I am not looking forward to when the numbers roll out for the 3900 in the Lucerne...

Well, then it sounds by your reaction the 3900 will be a great addition. I would have liked to have seen maybe the slightest update to the interior--like a new woodgrain. I've heard some bad reactions from their base woodgrain and good reactions from the one available on the CXS (the warm chestnut or something). I think the woodgrain in the LaCrosse even looks better! Eh, beggars can't be choosers--the car is only around 2 more years.

Well, while I'm not against pushrod V6s, I'm not for them either. The 3800 was a gem, for its size, produces adequate power now (was much more competitive years ago), but that 3900 is a disaster in my opinion. It doesn't produce amazing power, has poor fuel economy, and I have read mixed reviews from people on whether they like it. Some say it's rough, loud, etc., and others say it's smooth, has a great tone to it, and performs well. I can't give my true opinion until I drive one. Do I think putting the 3900 in the Lucerne is a smart move? Not sure. I guess the good outweighs the bad. The only bad side I see being that the 3800 will probably outperform it in terms of fuel economy. I'm all for what makes the Lucerne the best car it can be.

Pardon my ignorance, but I'm always confused with acronyms when it pertains to cars... what is CIB?

Well, I have mixed feelings about throwing the 3.9L in the Lucerne. Yes, the additional power is welcome, but the fuel economy will suffer bigtime. I'm going to guess it's true the 6A wouldn't work for the Lucerne's platform because if it did, they would have most definitely put it into the Cadillac DTS... I mean, the only other $40,000+ car I can think of that still uses a 4A, is the Town Car. And yes, Buick should have those little things as standard equipment. However, doing so pushes the base price up--which also makes sense for cars entering premium territory. However, it's difficult for Buick to do that as it converts its customer base, as well as shaking itself rid of old platforms and technologies. I remind myself to be patient and follow the saying, "Good things come to those who wait." I see a healthy outcome for Buick. It's just going to take time, and patience on my end as I want more product and faster turnaround than is safely possible.

According to the list of standard equipment (I checked by the above link), standard on all trims is: Mirrors, outside heated power-adjustable, body-color. So, maybe they're just being replaced with heated. It was previously not available on CX, available on CXL, and standard on Super.

Nice that the DI 3.6L will be putting out 290hp now.

I'm going to doubt it. I'll bet it'll have the 3.6L standard. GM seems to be ridding themselves of pushrod V6's, being they only have the 3.6L available on the Malibu and Aura now.

I'm sure the added power will be welcome. It's just a shame it's going to get such poor fuel economy!!

Ah, the CX on the LaCrosse gets standard 16" aluminums found on the CXL... and CXL and Super on the Lucerne get integrated turn signal indicators in the side view mirrors.

Okay, so looks like the 3.9L is rated at 227hp/237ft/lbs... 17" standard on the Lucerne as is Auto-Dimming mirrors on CX.

Uh oh. If that's what it looks like, I'm going to have to cut cable, internet, phone, and air conditioning out of my life so I can afford it :AH-HA_wink: The taillamps look very LS460 to me.

How do you know? Maybe the new Buick will handle and drive less like previous ones.

So, the only difference that seems to be with this new corporate steering wheel is that there are more buttons on the production version and the metal part is on the inside of the production version whereas in the sketches it's on the outer parts of the spokes.

If it's what I think it is, I'm not a fan of the heated seats switches being located on the side of the seat... they can be awkward to reach with the doors shut.

It looks to be. And I was noticing that the conceptual renderings of the steering wheel and gauges that were posted a while back were accurate.

Okay, they got me. I'm very impressed so far!

No smoking ever!

I take it back, a `97.

Is it me, or do the wheels look like they came off a `96 Town Car?

I wouldn't say there's more temptation... it's just that men are assholes. Plain and simple. Myself included. But for the faithful thing, God, I'd be destroyed and I can't even imagine that feeling if a guy cheated on me.

Single chrome exhaust, chrome grille, SE badge, metallic center-stack, different carpet, and, uh, that appears to be it for any physical changes. I guess it's just all packaging.

I admit to cheating on my left hand with a man. But that's it. I've never cheated on anyone I've dated. I would never cheat on someone. Honestly, if it comes down to cheating with someone, then I'm going to break up with the person first.