Drew Dowdell

It's the freaking Crown Vic of Europe!!

The Lacrosse is already a more than competent handler. I've chased an Altima Coupe up a twisty road in a Lacrosse CXS that was built before Hi-Per strut. Now add magnetic ride control, one of the best AWD systems out there (that can be tuned for RWD bias even in a FWD based car), and Hi-Per strut.... I am NOT saying that it will take on an M5 on the 'Ring, but it will likely more than match any E350 or 528i in feel. and that is all it need do.

Just in time for the holidays again.

amazing how none of that happened. They moved from also-ran to 2nd place in the market. The least expensive one I could find on Cars.com near you and I was a base 2011 with the 3.0 and FWD for $29,864. All of the others are well over $30k used.

Looks like they'll be within striking distance of 70k this year.

How much vacuum line is under there? It doesn't have to be the tubing that is cracked, but one of the connectors. Also, the tubing can be clogged. Buy a small spool of it, replace it all, and the connectors.

Nice putting Americans back to work.

Am I the only one that sees a Prius Matrix?

the 2.5 has all the fuel economy of a v6 with all the power of a 4 cylinder. throw in the nhv of a misfiring pushrod and it is the worst of all worlds.

there is video I believe. the point isn't what the cobalt "is", Nicer dash materials don't change handling characteristics.

That's the same scenario with the LaCrosse & the XTS; not at all similar. It isn't the same, because the Camaro will be able to have acceleration and handling like a 3-series or G37 so it should match up well against a Mustang, Genesis Coupe, 370Z etc. The platform won't limit the Camaro's performance. The XTS can't handle like other luxury sedans with the same price point. And the LaCrosse has a lot of the features that the XTS has, the Impala has the same engine/transmission. The DTS is a sales dog, and Cadillac just rebuilt the same car on a different platform. Weak effort. You've driven an XTS already? Care to share pics and do a writeup? You have NO bloody idea what the car handles like. GM was able to get a Cobalt SS to out handle a 3-series and the XTS is FAR more technologically advanced than a Cobalt. You've gotten in trouble for making assertions you couldn't possibly back up before. Don't start down that path again.

This isn't Cadillac's top end sedan. This is Cadillac's largest sedan. Cadillac's top end car has not been it's largest car since at least 1967. Going backwards chronologically: CTS-V STS-V/XLR-V STS Allante Seville/Eldorado Eldorado The Deville and Fleetwood haven't been Cadillac's flagship for decades.... RWD or not. In fact, Cadillac's flagships were front wheel drive from 1967 till 2004.

Not the same in my eyes... :-(

Kia getting a slit front grill in 5..4...3...

The biggest factor in car sales in the luxury brands is "I like the way it looks".

In my area, most of these luxury cars get purchased with AWD. Once that decision is made, then the RWD v. FWD thing is moot in people's minds. They have no idea about front bias or rear bias... they just see "AWD" and they're off. In the mind of a non-foamer, an AWD BMW 5-series is the equal to an AWD CTS or XTS or 300c or A6 or E-Class for that feature. Full stop. End of argument for them when comparison shopping.

From Cort: Yes, I am HOME! I have seen SOME of the message boards/groups, but it'll be some time before I can get up the strength to post for long periods at a time to "catch up" everywhere, INCLUDING Facebook. But, rest assured, I WILL RETURN. Since my "big heart" is no longer so, this should be fun. *grins devilishly* HUGE KUDOS to my lil sis, Joylyn Johnson for keeping people updated via my Facebook wall. I understand that some, for whatever reason, didn't see the updates, but I suspect that is more of a FB issue....

I haven't sat in a G-series in a long while. Have they improved the interior much?

Well, to defend Hyundai here on this one. The Genesis and Equus are not sold under the Hyundai brand elsewhere, so it isn't surprising that they don't share a design language with the rest of the Hyundai lineup in the US. If Hyundai has made a misstep on this, it is that they didn't introduce their luxury brand here in the U.S., not that the design languages of two separate brands globally don't match.

made some changes to the Pages tab today. Let me know what you think

not especially, the genesis sedan is routinely called a barge when it comes to handling. more Town Car than 7 series. conversely, nearly every review of the lacrosse compliments its handling.

the awd lacrosse has a weight distribution about the same as an A8. an xts awd would be better. even if only slightly

No.

Magnaride would.

this and this.