Drew Dowdell

Chevy Tornado

That came out beautiful.... and I don't even like Fieros.

Here is your answer: ML320 Horsepower 268 @ 6000 Torque (lb-ft) 258 @ 2400 City (mpg) 15 Highway (mpg) 20 Ground Clearance (in.) 8.30 The ML simply can't match the numbers of the non-hybrid Tahoe much less the Hybrid one. Tahoe 5.3 4WD 320 @ 5200 RPM 340 @ 4200 RPM City (mpg) 15 Highway (mpg) 21 Ground Clearance (in.) 9.10 Chevy traditionally underrates the towing capacity of their SUVs. The ML simply does not have the torque to be towing 7200lbs with any authority. I've towed 6,000lbs over the West Virginia mountains with the Avalanche and the truck acted like the trailer wasn't even there. To put all this in perspective: 1996 Cadillac Fleetwood Horsepower 260 Torque (lb-ft) 330 City (mpg) 17 Highway (mpg) 26 Max tow capacity 7,000lbs Even a 1996 Cadillac Fleetwood is a better choice than the ML if you're regularly going to tow 7,000 lbs. edit: Damn, I miss-read his post. However, the GL320 specs are: Horsepower 215 @ 4000 RPM Torque (lb-ft) 398 @ 1600 RPM Ground Clearance (in.) 7.80 The torque sounds nice in this... but remember that electric motors have 100% of their max torque available at 0 rpm.

Sorry. No.

oh we were actually supposed to guess?

two "harass camino" threads!

but it's sooooo much fun!

they stuffed 6 metro engines in that thing?

Ford Ranchero?

I like how this has turned into a "Harass Camino" thread.

Oh Pauli.....your car is here.

but you've got to admit... it's the second coolest FWD EVAR!

I think this covers most of it.... 2 door, 8 cylinder <inline.. how cool is that?>, convertible, first three letters are Cor

fixedalso, keep in mind that what looks like a small improvement in MPG accumulates to a much larger savings in fuel used when compared to a Camry hybrid v Camry 4cylinder

And what better way then a V8 powered Buick to blow off the young whipper snappers in!

You're getting up to Park Ave age aren't you?

who?

I think there needs to be a substantial dealer consolidation. If Toyota is pushing out that many cars from so few dealerships, GM can too.

All I want is fairness in the reviews. There is no need for mention of any of those product in a review of a current product. I doubt there would be much debate between you and I on the remaining trouble spots. I like the W-body but I know it needs to go. I think the Lacross and new Aveo5 have been beaten with an ugly stick. I think GM made a mistake not giving the Cobalt an MCE for MY2007, I think GM is making a mistake not continuing with the the SRX. I think all the pushrod V6s could be replaced with the turbo 4, HF2.8 and HF3.6 with various goodies like DI or turbo grafted on as needed. I'm not a kool-aid drinker. I slam GM where they deserve it and defend them when they get slammed inappropriately. Bringing up the 8-6-4, unless directly discussing AFM, is inappropriate.

So, other than the Malibu or CTS, what GM cars currently made are worthy of a review that includes any of the following? 8-6-4 Cimmaron Citation Vega Celebrity Corsica Quad-4 Aztek

actually, if you scroll up, I said DTS and I said the mentions of the citation were for a previous generation Malibu...again while not a stunning car, didn't deserve to be compared to that. I know I've read a review of a 2007 DTS that mentioned the 8-6-4 and Cimmaron. It was an overall positive review, but there is still no need to be bringing those up. Can you think of any viable reason to mention any of these things in a review of a 2007 DTS or 2006 Malibu? If the answer is "yes", does that same reasoning apply to the Odyssey and it's first gen? or the G20? or the SLX? I'll do what I can to find the articles for you.

it's only a flagship if you consider Lincoln to be a Buick equivalent. I don't think that's the direction Lincoln should take. They should aim for the luxurious side of Mercedes Benz.

Even better a Pontiac Solstice review that discusses the 8-6-4, Vega, Corvair and Aztec. 1998 Seville review that talks about the 8-6-4 and Cimmaron

They brought the W-body designer out of retirement?