Drew Dowdell

Oh goodies.... powered by chrysler engines..... does that mean I can have the 2.7 litre Chrysler Hemi-magnum powerhouse die on the Florida Turnpike with 3,000 miles on the clock again!?!?! Oh please let it be so! Seriously, why doesn't anyone ever address the crappiness of the Chrysler engines <not including Hemi> The 4 cylinders make a Quad-4 with no oil look like a swiss watch. The 2.7 is gutless The 3.5 lacks refinement and reliability The 4.0 in the jeeps always have oil leaks I agree that is may be time for the 3800 to die, but it still seems to do it's job better then any V6 Mopar is producing.

The think two of the most laughable police cars I've seen were a Fish generation Taurus and a Plymouth Horizon. There are actually some 92ish Bonneville SSEIEI-OHs around here doing police duty. They're mostly relegated to parking enforcement but by the looks of them, they were once full blown patrol/persuit cars. Almost all of the cop cars around here are Impalas. There are some Intrepids, but I'm seeing less and less Crown Vics. Edit: And I haven't seen Pittsburgh's Plymouth Horizon patrol car in a while, but it was in service as recently as two years ago.

*passes around the "german is best" koolaid" Ooooh... ahhh.... TEH BEST DEZING EVAR!!!!!#$!!!

and I keep buying GM stock.....it's so cheap now, even if it never goes up in price, the dividends are worth it.

I had a Stratus I4 when my Cutlass was in for brake work that the dealer f-ed up the first time. I was so glad to get my Cutty back. The Stratus was a "Neon del Grande". Sadly, the one time I was renting a 300M I felt the same way. The interior looked quite similar.

LOL!!!

The Electra name should be saved for a trim level to designate Hybrid. Person 1: "I have a Toyota Camry Hybrid" Person 2: "I have a Buick LaCross Electra" Person 1: "Ooooh Aaaah" The Lucerne would have made a good Invicta. My question about the Nav system would be... the DTS has it now, why couldn't the Lucerne with virtually identical interior also have it now?

Just a rehash of this:

The LH cars are known for blowing trannys........ uhm... that didn't come out right. :unsure: Sing it sista!

Not a Skyhawk: 1. too big 2. look at the rear quarter windows. They match the pic of the Century, not the pic of the Skyhawk.

Lets give it a try 68. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Fine: 1990 Lincoln Town Car 1979 Buick Riviera S 1977 Chevrolet Caprice 1976 Chrysler, Dodge Aspen/Plymouth Volare 1970 Ford Torino I'll venture to guess that the 1991 Caprice is still tighter then any of those listed above. Face it, the Caprice was a good car. It was reliable, durable <see the Jay Leno video>, relatively efficient with the 5.0, police and taxi cab drivers loved them. Just because it doesn't handle the way you like doesn't mean it doesn't deserve COTY. The Civic handles NOTHING like I would like. Based on ride and handling the DTS or Lucerne would have been my pic.

Actually that design was originally planned to be the next Eagle Vision till that division got axed.

No, the Vega was the worst COTY. The B-body Caprice was a good car when not equiped with the 4.3 litre. The 300M was COTY and it was just a downsized LHS. 1995 was the Chrysler Cirrus 1983 was the AMC/Renault Alliance 1981 was the Dodge Aries/Plymouth Reliant 1980 was the Chevy Citation 1976 was the Dodge Aspen/Plymouth Volare' 1975 was the Chevy Monza Certianly you can find ONE of those on the list to pick as worst COTY ever over the Caprice. Oh yeah, and since sport is such a BIG consideration for COTY: 2004 Toyota Prius* *not saying it wasn't worthy of COTY, it is, but it isn't sporty as has been suggested the COTY should be.

It's a Century with some burned out bulbs.

What? Where are the AMC sales?

Inline 6 engines are mathmatically the smoothest engines possible this side of a V-12. A nice I6 for the premium engine in the Sky or the base engine in the Kappa Caddy would be great.

It would be "Was ist das!?!?!"

We had a Studebaker dealer right up the street from me until about last year. Even had 1950ish Studebaker Champion in the showroom.

I've been to 3 cocktail parties hosted by Cadillac and 1 cocktail party hosted by Buick. I get a phone call from my salesman wishing me happy Thanksgiving. I get free carwashes whenever I'm at the dealer. I got a set of Cadillac branded napkins that I keep in the car along with two tins of Cadillac branded mints and a Cadillac pen. I am personally one of GM's largest drains on profit margin. :P :P :P

I have XM... I love that I can listen to Dance music on BPM, Frank on Frank's place or Classical .... all without commercials

Actually, didn't Wagoneer take about a 50% paycut?

Part of the problem is also GM's fault. Back in the 50s and 60s the divisions had a smaller number of models, but more variations in each model. In the 80s the divisions started having one of everything with very little variation in the model line. In the 80s every division got a J-body. Every division got an A-body <except Cadillac>. Every division got a W-body. Every division got an H-body <execpt Chevy>. Every division got B-body. It brought the divisions down on top of each other. Why buy a 98 when for a few bucks more <or even less in some years> you could get an even more posh Park Ave/Electra? Why spend all that dough on a Park Ave, when for just a few dollar more car payment you could get a Deville? The ladder isn't collapsing today. It collapsed somewhere around 1981. GM is trying to rebuild it today. The ladder looks different now. Instead of the rungs being social class or financial indicators, they are more personality indicators in picking which kind of car you want. Today the ladder looks more like this: Sport/Lux - Cadillac Lux - Buick Sport - Pontiac "Euro" - Saab/Saturn Basic Transport - Chevy

Why do we never talk about Mercedes or BMW market share?

#5 = Thunderbird