Drew Dowdell
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No, the XTS is only $800 more than the Continental... that's not a significant enough difference to matter in this segment.... for the purposes's of argument the Continental and XTS are base priced the same.
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I don't have stats by model, but Cadillac has one of the highest ATPs in the entire segment, beating even BMW and Audi.. so I'm betting that they're beating Lincoln too. JDN is on record saying that he's fine with lower volume as long as profits and ATP are up. Selling "the most" isn't as important to him as selling "the most profitable". It's exactly the opposite of MB which is now whoring out the Benz name for $275 a month with zero down just to chase volume. The Continental is likely to be the highest contributor to Lincoln's ATP increase since Navigator sales are so low (just 677 units last month). I've stated before, I don't mind if Lincoln or Cadillac have lower sales as long as they have premium priced sales. I don't want everyone on the block having a Cadillac or Lincoln because then if I buy one, it isn't as special. It's the same reason I didn't buy a 3-series back in 2004... you can't drift a Mustang in Pittsburgh without hitting a pack of 323xi. Back in 2004 they were as common as a Civic or Grand Am.
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With this latest ice storm, even our AWD vehicles struggled to get up our driveway. Whatever we get next time, I'm going back to a V6 or better for the Encore replacement. Even a Grand Cherokee 4x4 V6 can maintain 27mpg highway.... and the Encore is 32ish.. The CR-V tops out at 27mpg if I'm gentle on it. The CR-V will be replaced with a truck and the GM full-sizers can get into the low 20s.. That's not a big enough increase in MPGs for me to be satisfied with the lack of power. -
It does appear to be a success so far. I certainly wouldn't refuse a Continental out of my driveway.
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November 2016: General Motors Co.
Drew Dowdell replied to William Maley's topic in 2016 Sales Archive
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Being a higher priced car, if the CT6 was outselling the Continental, that would point to a problem as well. The Continental bases almost exactly $10,000 less... I expect it to sell better than CT6. Cadillac's average transaction prices are at their highest ever too, so it's unlikely that it is mostly base models that are moving. But even XTS is outselling Continental and it is priced right up against it. That's a problem.
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If XTS is outselling Continental... even if they're both fleet... that's a problem. (note, I didn't bother to go look up the numbers... I said "if")
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I just had a 300C for a week and I really really enjoy that car. I'd want it in a V8, but AWD is a necessity for where I live..... I was told that I could replace the Encore with the 300C as long as it was AWD... so maybe.
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You want to write some articles or do some photography? I might be able to work something out for you ;-)
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The Saab has a very distinct roofline that the Continental doesn't (and shouldnt) have. If you're just talking about the shape of the tail lights, that's a design trend on just about everything these days.
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1... what in the hell did you do to that post? 2. I'm not seeing any of what you describe in the Continental... certainly not the 9-5. There might be a touch of Bentley in there, but there are certainly worse comparisons to be made. One thing it does look though is bold. I will say that it is bolder looking than the CT6 and any of the Genesis line at the moment, although the Genesis line is growing on me. I like it far better than anything at Lexus as well.
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I believe Mercedes already stated that the car would act to save the occupants first. So that's one manufacturer's stance. It seems to me, on the surface, to be a well reasoned path to take. In such a case, the car has greater control of the safety of the occupants (pretensioning seatbelts, rolling up windows, any other safety countermeasures that can be activated ahead of impact). I think the biggest thing to torpedo autonomous driving technology, in the US at least, is our refusal to invest adequately in infrastructure. Here in Pittsburgh, a self-driving Uber went the wrong way down a one way street, however, the reason was because the street was not well marked. I was driving in a less desirable part of town recently and nearly ran a stop sign. The reason? The stop sign was no longer reflective, so my headlights didn't make it shine and I didn't see it until I was right on top of it. Even just today, the power is out in parts of town due to the ice storm. Duquesne Light has signs up at an intersection that are non-standard stop signs. Passing back through that same intersection later, they have a cop there directing traffic. How will an autonomous vehicle handle that sort of situation? A couple of accidents related to this stuff is what will kill autonomous vehicles here..... not other drivers.
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I think the Continental styling is in the unusual position of being at once classic and also ahead of its time.
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Attendance is not what I am talking about. The number and importance of the debuts being shown there is dwindling. The Pittsburgh Auto Show is fairly well attended by the public also... but we get zero debuts, so there is practically no media participation, no headlines, no reason for me to even go.
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Of course, it will always be one of the big 4, but just looking at the schedule, it now has fewer releases than LA just did. If 2017 NYC stays the same size as it was in 2016 then that means Detroit has fallen to 3rd out of 4. It could just be product cadence by the manufacturers (which I suspect is most likely) or is could be a longer term trend. I've been doing this long enough to remember when it started Sunday afternoon, continued 6:30am Monday, and basically didn't stop till Tuesday evening.
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LA, SEMA, CES, Texas State Fair, and the Chinese shows have been growing. Chicago has shrunk dramatically to the point were I now have to consider each year whether it is worth the travel to cover it in person.
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Detroit auto show is rapidly losing relevance. It's down to one day of car debuts this year.
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Wait, how is displaying upcoming tech at auto shows "rushing things"? Furthermore, GM is far from first to show off the tech, though they've obviously been working on it for years.
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Nudging this back on topic.... The Continental
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My last flights of 2016 are tomorrow and I'm going to....just... barely... squeak into gold status. What's crazy is that I'm Platinum now which means I flew twice as much in 2015.... Yet I still feel like I got hit by a truck.
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Ditto
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@A Horse With No Name there's no harm in being smitten by a 2017 Lacrosse.
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1 car and the zl1 is a niche within a niche and was at the end of its product cycle with a fantastic new model already seen. Ford's answer to the same issue is to hit the speed dial button for Hertz. Miata, WRX, Golf R, Civic SI.... Don't get much in incentives.
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Rarely - happening at low rates of occurrence. Gosh you try to nit pick everything
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Cars desirable to enthusiasts rarely get incentives.
