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Nope, there may be some new developments. Same reason we still have a Oldsmobile and Pontiac sections.

Thanks, thats what I'm looking for. I've got a guy who can do gaskets (hell, I could do them myself if I had time) and who will do them free (he owes me) so the Buick is a more appealing option than contender #2, the Trooper whose electrical work was apparently done by the British. As far as color goes (its brown with the woodpaper and cheap Wal-Mart tint on the windows) yellow isn't my cup 'o tea, I'm thinking something like black or maybe a gunmetal gray. Only problem is the tan interior wouldn't go too well with either of those colors.

Bet it weighs less than just about any other Shadow on the road. That helps with gas mileage, which is the only reason the Shadow exists, to get people who dont care what image they convey around town using little gas. It will use even less gas when the gas pedal rusts off.

BTW, its an '89 (I figured it was older than that, but I was wrong) and looks something like this: Only not yellow and not nearly that clean. It has the wood wallpaper on the sides, but thats peeling. The only real rust is above the front bumper, the metal between the bumper and that thin strip of chrome under the headlights is pretty well gone. The handle on the back passenger door is inexplicably missing. The rear hatch swings open like its brand new. Oh, and it has the Olds 307. Anyone know of any real issues with this particular engine?

I went and took a closer look at the Buick, the tires are good, the interior is in great shape, just a bit dirty. The headliner over the cargo hold is sagging. But the damned thing wouldn't start. There was 1 person at the dealership, a chick who was talking on the phone, so I couldn't get any info on it, but I assume its the starter. I'm heading back tomorrow, cause I really like the car for what I'll be using it for.

I suggest you never say this out loud to another human being who speaks the same language as you.

I just rimmed my Jimmy?

The Trooper is 4wd and has new tires (one less expense later) but a ton of miles. I simply need more info on it. I'm going to go look at the Buick sometime tomorrow. If it hadn't been so dark, and the car weren't in a fenced in lot, I would have snapped a few pics. Also considering an Astro that is really clean, but has a god-awful paint job, I would insist that they reduce the price by whatever a dozen cans of Krylon will cost me.

If rimming burns, you are doing something horrible, horribly wrong.

Bump/update (bumpdate?) Nothing is set in stone yet, I have a couple carrier pigeons out, I'm waiting for them to return to me with information on an Isuzu Trooper, as well as a couple of other cars. But the Lesabre I mentioned before is still available, and as of this evening, the funds to purchase it (or another toy car like the Daihatsu Rocky I saw earlier) have been acquired. I'm a wicked, evil, terrible, unscrupulous person, but by week's end, I'll be a wicked, evil, terrible, unscrupulous person with a new toy.

I took it out tonight, filled it up on the way home, did a little mathematical magic and came up with 44mpg. Not bad, but not great. Better than the Fusion, which has regressed, only got 26 out of my last tank.

It burns like hell.....

California didn't break off the continental united States from it? A lot of posters on C&G are going to be very disappointed.

No way man, cars are THE most important thing in the world. More important than family, friends, home, money, sex, war, peace, boobs, laughter, children, the elderly, responsibility, pride, puffy Cheetos, oxygen, nitrogen, movies, books, newspapers, computers, cockroaches, dirt and sloppy blowjobs from bulimic prostitutes.

Just wanted to add something constructive.

Just up the street from work is an old, abandoned drive-in, right next to an old abandoned motel. I think that, given heavy investment, both properties could thrive. The motel (its either a single level or separate cottages, its really run down) because its near a highway that gets a lot of truck travel and vacationers going to Branson. The drive-in because its in a part of town that could really use a revitalization, there are plenty of people and restaurants in the area, but no real entertainment options without going downtown.

I'd rather be in a convertible or a truck bed, or (best case scenario) laying in the back of a wagon.

Wouldn't it be cheaper to kill the HX/H4 and let each dealership slowly go bankrupt because they have nothing but big, heavy trucks that people dont seem to want anymore? Maybe not if you're going to sell the brand, but if you intend to kill the brand outright, that would be the way to go. They cant sue if they've already closed.

There is a drive-in about 36 miles from me. We haven't been this year (we were gonna go see Wall-E but didn't get around to it) but I did make it out last year to see the Simpsons movie. I like it because it end up being cheaper (even with the longer drive) because you get to see two movies and can bring in whatever the hell you want for snacks.

Ummmm....its an insatiable desire for dark chocolate, and I'm not talking about food.

I'll hit up Smoothie King's drive-thru from time to time if I want something smoothieish and dont have time to go inside and eff around, otherwise, drive-thrus are the embodiment of everything that is wrong with this country.

Thanks Twas kind of a strange weekend. Friday, while I was out kayaking (and getting burnt) 30 of my co-workers were getting laid off. Then I didn't feel like doing anything yesterday or today because of the aforementioned sunburn and because I felt kinda bad for a bunch of good people getting the ax due to the falling economy.

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Because without speculative articles, MT, C&D, R&T and every other automotive magazine would have ceased circulation after about 2 months. Thats why people read them (that, and the road tests of cars they themselves will never drive) and why websites devoted to cars (and rumors about cars) exists and why forums (like this one) exist. So people can debate things that they know nothing about.

Again, since the Jalopnik article, there has been no new information regarding the Viper past 2011, I am inclined to think that if there were something at least semi-concrete, it would have been leaked by now. You're inclined to believe the Viper will stay unchanged or move downmarket. We've just got different thought processes. Then again, we're talking about Chrysler, so I wouldn't be shocked at all if they show a Viperesque concept at Detroit and have it in showrooms a year later. They do have a history of fairly quick concept-to-production turnaround, unlike certain other automakers who show a concept in 2006 and wont have it in showrooms until 2009 sometime.