Sixty8panther

http://www.goyk.com/video.asp?path=2000

I'll admit there's some truth to that.

Sixty8Panther again. All those, for better or worse are much more "rare" than a last gen. Camry.

(Speedingpenguin posting on Sixty8's name) http://www.kimballfarm.com/event.html If this show was just in the parking lot or something, i could understand a toyota getting mixed into the show cars and stuff.... but there is a huge sign at the enterance to the field that says "SHOW CARS ONLY" The location of the Toyota was way past the "halfway full" point, so he couldnt have just been "confused" and accidentally parked with the show cars. The other parking field is literally a 30 second walk from the show car field, and with 300+ show cars there, theres no way it was a mistake... it was laziness.

That's a cop-out dude... a new Camry is the absolute epitome of the anti-entusiast car. That I will not back down on... I can not think of one car on God's green earth that belonmged there less. Even a part time "enthisiast" would have bought a Maxima or Mazda 6 instead of the most boring and plentiful appliacnce of a car ever made. That's not the point though... a 2004/5/6 anything has no place being there unless it's a sports car with a super-low production run or some other rare bird like an exotic. It's a BEIGE CAMRY. Have you people gone senile? It's the most plentiful car on today's roads. There's MILLIONS of them. Any street corner has one, esp. a beige one. It may be an ice cream /mini golf place but any carshow that's crowded enough to fill up several acres of grass with 200-400 cars does not need some prick in a Toyota to take up space in the show section. Space is a comodity here. Google is a great tool: http://www.marx7.org/events/2003/~1_Kimbal...ering/index.asp BMW show later this year: http://www.boston-bmwcca.org/events/ultima...spx?EventID=295

Why not keep it Hemi only and at like $42K MSRP. That's all that less Camaro sales stolen. It will be very limited production and an instant classic like the original... I'll take my muscle for the massses Camaro/GTO/Firebird. Most people have no idea that many a 1970-73 Challenger left the factory with a mellow slant six.

(looking at Geo Metro) ----------> CAFE Taurus: it's not an SUV but you can carry a lot of $h! in it. Corvette: looks much less ugly than a Ridgeline

Wow... what a scumbag! I've always hated him. He's a backstabbing @$$hole. If he had won the presidency in 2000 we'd all be fu%$ed IMHO. We might not be at war but the terrorists would hev won already.

I'm not afraid to buy a car with 70,000 miles. Maybe it's because unlike most people on C&G I like turning wrenches and don't measure my happiness according to how much "new car smell" my vehicle has. http://www.kbb.com/kb/ki.dll/kw.kc.ucp?kbb...&;;ucr;&3;IF;GC everyone knows KBB is WAY high on retail: $25K on KBB means $22,000 (Cobalt SS/SC with the LSD) is well within reach at the same price. I hate having to explain techicalities.

One is from the 1950s... the other, not-so-much.

To paraphrase a few C&Gers: "FWD is alright for econo-boxes & hatchbacks" Key word Alright. If I had enough money to buy a brand new Cobalt SS/SC I'd have enough to buy a nice used Camaro or, to suit your example, a used 2004 Infiniti G35 coupe.

Most of you already know of this, it's been posted here before. http://www.buriedcar.com/tulsarama.html I can not wait to see the shape of this car. It will be a very surreal event when they crack open that giant time-capsule.

Recap from this past March. I share the Q45 with my G/F... it's our newest and most often driven car. She wanted to get something luxurious and comfortable... I wanted a domestic, V8 powered and MOST importantly RWD car. After she looked at a few Buick Roadmasters, Caprice Classics & Fleetwood Broughams on ebay & the used car lots she decided that they were all either too expensive or too "grandma-ish" for her tastes... Sucks to be me. She does not like Fords so the Panther cars were out and the Chrysler 300C and Dodge Charger were out of our price range... esp. with the V8. So that left very little. I found a nice '95 Impala SS but it was too much money and the seller was a weirdo. Then I asked the C&G community to help me think of any good RWD cars I might have forgot about... & out came Variance wiht the Q45 suggestion. To be honest I think after trying to please Marcia and always getting told my tastes in cars were too "conservative" I might have even bought a used Lexus GS400 out of desperation. It's got a V8 and RWD. Plus I consider Nissan to be the LEAST offensive Japanese manufacturer. So yes, the Q45 is a Nissan (Datsun Q as I call it) but the heck with you guys questioning my judgement or devotion to GM. How many 4dr hardtops are there out there from the late 90s early 2000s? And how many domestic cars are there with RWD and a V8 for less than $8000 in great shape with that much curb appeal? The Q45 is slow compared to the Cadillac STS it replaced and I miss the DIC but otherwise I think the Q45 is MUCH more enjoyable to drive and better laid out, esp. the back seat... you know where I put my 2-1/2 year old daughter. To each his own. I'd rather drive a RWD import anyday than some FWD abortion from GM. There was also a 1980s RWD Celica there as well as a Honda S2000. Both acceptable as "show cars". And Fly: if there had been any rental Ford Explorers or non-stock-car Luminas there they'd have gotten a dirty note too... but there were NOT. It was three Toyotas and three Toyotas only that broke this rule. Very typical of the morons who drive this brand, if you ask me.

NEMA? No Espanol Members Association

I liked Sunset Orange Metallic when we got in the 2002 Avalanches in early 2001 but orange metallic is kind of played out now.

I only care about that one gently used black CTS-V I will eventually buy for a family car.

Uglier than her face is that carpetbagger personality.

Not really... Id take a Ford F-450 with a flatbed body and the remainder of the money left over from the differance of the Ferrari ot ther truck. And a flatbed will make you money if you start a towing company.

Yeah... that Subaru ad that bitch slapped VW was the best of all!

This month's issue of Automobile has an interview with Will Ferrel. He even mentiones the Red Dragon.

Just driving a luxury car DOES NOT make one a yuppie @$$hole. Driving a Lexus RX330 while talking on a phone and cutting off 3 cars at a time and parking at the handicap spot at Starbucks to go grab a quick Mocca-Frappachino-Double-Non-Fat-Skim-Latte on the other hand is one sign of "yuppie-@sshole-dom". I would not ever call you a yuppie a$$hole just becasue your Aurora's MSRP was $42,999 or whatever when new.

Expensive... yeah. You must be referring to the electrical gremlins, or perhaps the ludicrous parts prices, or the craptastic UN-ease of maintenance.

Ha-ha! I honestly could not ever think of another incorrect answer that's as close as this one to the true, correct one. You're SOOO close it's ridiculous. This right there should give away the true answer.

So as some of you now know, and most probably do not, I have moved recently. I now live right at the intersection of Rt.3 & I-495 just outside of Lowell Mass. It's been a nerve wracking experience and I'm glad it's over. Now Sofia has more room to play and a much nicer back yard and the Super 88 & Datsun have semi- indoor storage. The Super will soon enough be sleeping in a barn when not driven. The only bad news is that we're renting again and didn't buy a house, but all good things come to those who wait. Now on with the show: I went to a car show again today with the Super 88. Kimbal's Ice Cream & Miniature Golf in Westford, MA. Just a few minutes away from me. It's a great show & there was somewhere around 300 cars there... well 250 minimum. There's two lawns: one for parking and one for "Show Cars" it's up to the public's discretion to pick the appropriate one. This is usually not a problem but there's always a few jackasses who are too lazy to walk and park a non-show car on the lawn with the show cars. There was a Saturn Sky there for instance with 1500 miles on it. That's okay since it's a rare car that just came out, and it's a sports car of low production volume. Same for an SSR or 911 Targa. It was actually the first Sky I have ever seen standing still outside of a dealership. It was very nice. On the other hand there was three blatant violations of the "show car" rule. And guess what? All three were TOYOTAS! As soon as I parked my Super 88 I got out and admired the '68 Camaro SS & '57 Corvette I was parked between. Then I notice a few rows over there's a 100% stock yellow Toyota Matrix. WTF right? It gets better. Several rows over there later turned up a brand new 100% stock blue 06 Corolla. Mind you it's parked amongst vehicles like '66 Corvette Sting Ray Roadsters, '44 Willys Military GPs and '55 Pontiac Starchief convertibles. And now the icing on the proverbial cake. Parked between a C5 ragtop with a custom hood, paint job, rims and Z06 motor transplant and a riced out SRT-4 Neon is a Camry. 100% stock Camry LE. Tan exterior. Tan interior. Same ugly f@%$#ng wheel covers it left the factory with. 2002-06 vintage. Yes... a silver-brown metallic Camry. I walked back to the Super 88... (Sofia still in my arms) took a paper wrapper from a 6 pack of Jewel Tipparillos and wrote in block letters: WHAT THE HELL POSSESEED YOU TO PARK YOU CAR HERE? IF I WANTED TO SEE A BEIGE 2006 CAMRY WITH STOCK HUBCAPS I'D GO TO ANY PARKING LOT/GAS STATION IN THE GREAT US-OF-A AND THERE'S SURE TO BE ABOUT A DOZEN OF THESE UGLY NEW TOYOTAS, ESP. CAMRYS! When I pulled out of the car show at 8:00pm tonight, the sun dipping below the trees and Sofia resting in her tired head in the car seat, that note was below the windshield wiper of that gross Toyota pile of $hit. What a blatant sign of disrespect: to park the car that is regarded by 99% of the population to be the most boring and unexciting vehicle ever made in a row of cars like a '58 Fuelie Corvette & a flat black '49 Ford rat rod. [end-of-rant]

Hemi only? Their loss sales wise. But I'll be they'll sell well anyway. It's a high money car and people will assume it will be an instant classic, which will probably be true to some degree. Like, for example, the C-pillar. That thing is as thick as a $h!house brick and would serve as a massive blind spot. 178655[/snapback] Better a thivk C-pillar but NO B-pillar. The rear side window has to be small enough to dissapear into the rear 1/4 panel on the car... and the hardtop bodystyle is crucial to the car's design language IMO. Even Mustangs & 1st gen. F-bodys has thick C-pillars. It's all good.