Sixty8panther

It's pretty cool IMO. Besides silly nitpicks which are really irrelevant I really like it. Looks a million times better than any Luscerne or Lacrosse I've seen. The front lower fascia needs at least a subtle tweek to eliminate the G35 coupe origins of the chop.

Her's where I graduated from: Bradford College. RIP. :(

Nick: I think I just lost 3% of my brain cells watching that. :P

Balthy: The best part (or craziest I guess) is that the '60 Plymouth and the Merc Turnpike Cruiser are considered "Junkers" by the author. :huh: I'd pass on the Merc but I'd love the '60 Plymouth. Ocn: You know it's funny how the subconscious works... I did not put that obvious setup togeather untill you mentioned it. Guess I should have posted it in the other thread. :P

Agreed, besides look at the Charger 3.5. When the car came out I was like I'd never be caught dead in a freekin V6 car this big but the thing is quite quick and fast enough for a daily comute. V6 Camaros driven by Cheerleaders, Dental Hygenists, Middle managers wiht a midlife crisis, Legal Secretarys and people who can't afford a V8 but want a new car are a good way to double the production number of a car.

Wow, good for you... now just be patient while it's built. There's three Corollas, a Jetta and two Civics that need to be crushed in order to get enough steel to make your ONE truck.

With the exception of the missing trans. cross member this is IT for the Camaro subframe. http://www.northwestautofab.com/images/69_camaro_7_big.jpg Nothing that would or could be called a full frame. It's a lot more simillar to teh subframe in my STS than any Full frame car I've ever owned. For what it's worth the 3rd and 4th gen. F-bodys are for all intents & purposes Unibody.

That's pretty much waht I was about to say after reading some peoples fears of the clueless public's reactions/comments. Vic has Smokey Yunick's '68 Trans Am Camaro for just starters.... like Hyper said the kind of people invited to this will not be driving riced out '82s wiht the 2.8/auto. I for one feel the more Camaro enthusiasts have input the better. Not the "too many cooks in the kitchen" scenario but just give the peoepl working on the car a feel of what a Camaro is to them. The Vietnam vets who came home in 1968 after hell on earth in a swamp and bought a '69 SS396 and were there in the Showroom sitting next to ZL1 #44 while waiting for an oil change. Those enthusiasts and collectors are the ones that have the most positive input IMHO. That's awsome!!! Just like with the Knight Rider episode where we found out that KITT has a evil older twin called KARR. The Camaro IS the Car. The only one that matters at Chevrolet other than the Vette. The Malibu, Impala and Monte have been so bastardized they've lost their soul. Perhaps a TRUE Camaro can return some of the former glory lost by the bowtie division since the 70s/80s/90s.

wow, now that's fire engine red!!!

Thanks buddy... those bumper stickers are funny there's several there I've never heard/seen. I'd love to put one of these on my beater. I've actually seen a few of these in person. Usualy on an old beat up 80s car with Vermont or Maine plates. Sometimes a creepy "serial killer mobile" van. Like an '82 Dodge with the opera window, dual exhausts and rusty cragars. Your kid may be an honor student, but you're still an idiot. I brake for no apparent reason. Lottery: A tax on people who are bad at math. It IS as bad as you think, and they ARE out to get you. Out of my mind. Back in five minutes. I get enough exercise just pushing my luck. No radio - Already stolen. I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it. I'm not in heat SO GET OFF MY TAIL! Happiness is a belt fed automatic weapon. Driver carries only $20 worth of ammunition. Fight crime, shoot back. Gun control means using both hands! Gun control is being able to hit your target. As long as there are tests, there will be prayer in public schools. Do you trust a government that doesn't trust you with guns? I'm lost. But I am making record time. Don't laugh. This is my other car. Buy American. While there is still time. My other car is at my place in France. I only drive this way to piss you off! Got any more boxes of Cracker Jacks so I can get a license too? What rear-view mirror? "CAUTION: BLIND MAN DRIVING!" Drive fast, the city needs money. To all tourists: left lane fast, right lane slow! I got this truck for my wife! Pretty good trade huh? Get A Life... It's Just A Bumper Sticker! Your proctologist called, they found your head. Don't underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. I smile because I have no idea whats going on. If you don't like my driving stay off of the sidewalk! Save the whales... collect the whole set. I love my country, but fear my goverment. I'm thinking the same thing about you. Don't piss me off! I'm running out of places to hide the bodies. Next mood swing: 6 minutes I'm multi-talented. I can drive and piss you off at the same time. I smile 'cause you've all finally driven me insane. Don't worry, it'll only seem kinky the first time. Guns don't kill people, but they sure make it easier. <------Passing Side/Suicide------> I wonder how you'd drive with that cell-phone shoved up your ass!?! Honk if parts fall off! My wife's car is a broom. My other car is in the police impound. If we weren't meant to eat animals, why are they made of meat? Support mental health - or I'll kill you! Madness takes its toll - please have exact change ready. Your IQ test was negative. Car will explode on impact. If you love life like I love my car you won't steal it.

Let me just say that if there was a car from Toyota right now as cool as the 2000GT then this would be at least a slight bit rational... but Toyota is a jooke right now. They don't even have a Supra any more. How about the Gillette comercials for Mach3 turbo razors wiht that cheesy balck and green '95 Supra. Retardred. I always liked the 2000GT. It's the only true Japanese classic other than the original Z cars. Isn't there a new Supra on the horizon? I mean how many times have we seen a supposed Toyota in black canvas on the ring in Autoweek?!

Once again, thanks guys... it's a funyn thing that I would be seeking guidance and advice about this on C&G but hell, I spend some serious time on here shooting the crap wiht you guys every day so why not? I just needed something positive, even a corny joke and dumb laugh to see the light at the end of the tunnel. And yes, FWD does win if I kick the bucket doesn't it? :P Can I quote you on that? Actaully that will just start another massive fight and besides, she's been told that several times by doctors and nurses. You can lead a horse to water, but... well you know the rest. <_<

That Yellow Jacket '04 is calling out to me.

Wow... clueless punk kid. That's like pulling into a Lincoln dealership with a Grand Marquis and having the idiot say that they don't specialise in those. That's probably happened too somewhere out there...

Variance: I think you struck upon a good point here... we live togeather and both work out of the house but yet months go by without any real quality time togeather. I think we went "out" more as a couple when she was 6 months pregnant than we do now. I made this suggestion myself today. It is a problem that is deeply rooted in the realtionship that we have all our free time separately.

Thanks guys... as a few of you mentioned the simple act of confiding all this crap to you guys is therapy in and of itself. I'm not the type to air out my dirty laundry but I was feeling real despondent the past two days. We talked today, actaully talked instead of just screaming back and forth and I have come to realise I have to make some serious changes in my life... I'm feeling much better because we worked out a "worst case scenario" of me still living here and having unconditional custody without involving the courts and all that other B.S. I have to remain cordial and polite and we can "live" togeather without being in a relationship. Sounds like a decent plan on paper but from my past experience, children aside it never works out. :( Best case scenario she says she'll consider family counceling if we can come to an understanding about our possible future without draggin up old crap. In other word move forward and learn. This is what I'm hoping for. I really really wish I could just wave a magic wand and have us be a family again. I guess I have been neglecting her emotional needs again recently, ad with all this Coupe DeVille/ Demolition Derby Volvo bullshit I guess I have been neglecting her. Sometimes I confuse intimacy in the bedroom for quality time. It's very confusing wiht her because that element fo our relationship can be fantastic and consistant but yet she still feels like I don;t 'love' her. As much as I used to be very opposed to therapy I have come to realise that I do need it. I stil think there's plenty of B.S. in the field of Psychiatry and our last councelor (back in 2003) did little to help the situation. Marcia also blamed him for taking sides wiht me since he was 1. MALE, 2. Automotive fanatic. In the end it only opened up old wounds to yell at eachother in this guys office once a week. I have realised one sad truth this week. The real curse of my father's viscious temper was the fact that I grew up to be a lot like him. I have a very short fuse myself and when I get angry and the ones I love I lash out and sometimes get insulting or even degrading. The day I up and walked out of my parent's house never to live there again I thought I left my dad's anger issues & hurtfull personality behind but it was already deeply rooted into my personality. Regardles of all the hurtfull things she has dome to me I've done my fair share in the past and I have come to realise the dynasmic of our relationship has made her feel cornered and trapped. Some of the really hurtfull things she's done to me werte as a result of me not listening to her needs. It's a good thing I guess that i'm accepting responsibility but it's a fine line between accepting my faluts and errors and just plain turning the other cheek without dealing wioht the problem. Still I feel like I made a ot of mistakes when it was just me and Marcia. Since Sofi has ben in the picture I'd never try to seek out another relationship in secret or lie to Marcia about my whereabouts. I need the therapy (god I hate that word) even if we do not stay togeather, and I think it is necessary for me to make sure I can maintain a healthy relationship wiht Sofia as she grows older. As far as those that suggested meds... I'm very anti-controled substance in any shape or form. (not a put down it's just my personal belief) I do not do any kind of drugs unless absolutely necessary. Vitamins is about all I take in the shape of a pill. I have taken maybe 7 or 8 Tylenol in my entire life... and have never done any kind of prescription drug outside of an antibiotic. Last year for the first time I tried pot after some adult peer pressure and it did nothing for me. I guess this is the case the first time for some. I feel no need for it. When I'm in a healthy state of mind a trip to Barnes & Noble Automotive section, a carshow or even a ride in the Camaro does wonders. I'm almost always against putting foreign substances into my body. Although to be 100% honest. last night if I had access to a sedative or something elser that would have calmed me down and shut off my brain I would have been tempted. ONce again guys, I'm overwhelmed with how much caring and empathy you guys displayed in your posts and I thank you for the genuine advice.... every siongele on of you had good advice to give. I'll keep you posted as to what will happen. I'm still praying for Marcia to give us another chance. I actually cracked a smile today while watching the Simpsons 3rd season DVD with Sofia... this was funny enough to make it #2 today. Thanks Reg. :)

It's pretty lame but it lifted my spirits, if only for a sec. when I got it in my email. ------------ A cabbie picks up a nun. She gets into the cab, and notices that the very handsome cab driver won't stop staring at her. She asks him why he is staring. He replies: "I have a question to ask you, but I don't want to offend you." She answers, "My son, you cannot offend me. When you're as old as I am nd have been a nun as long as I have, you get a chance to see and hear just about everything. I'm sure that there's nothing you could say or ask that I would find offensive." "Well, I've always had a fantasy to have a nun kiss me." She responds, "Well, let's see what we can do about that: #1, you have to be single and #2, you must be Catholic." The cab driver is very excited and says, "Yes, I'm single and Catholic! OK" the nun says. "Pull into the next alley." The nun fulfils the cab driver's fantasy with a kiss that would make a hooker blush. But when they get back on the road, the cab driver starts crying. "My! dear child," said the nun, why are you crying?" "Forgive me but I have sinned. I lied and I must confess, I'm married and I'm Jewish." The nun says, "That's OK. My name is Kevin and I'm going to a Halloween party."

I know. You guys are 100% correct, it's the fact that I have lost any remenance of a healthy state of mind that really worries me. I'm in a very dark mood... no light at the end of the tunnel from where I stand. What I did not mention that is very relevant here is that Marcia has a lot of health problems and she asked me to be a "stay at home, work out of the house dad" and help her build her Business. That's what I've been doing the past two years. I have not worked in a car dealer for almost 2 years and in the mean time I take care of Sofia 99.95% of the time from the time she wakes up untill Marica wakes up at like 12:00 or sometimes as late as 2:00. She's got a severe back injury, Lupus and even though she is told by the doctors that smoking is killing her she still does it anyway. IN other words, while taking care of Marica off and on when she throws out her back or wahtever, being the permanent day care for Sofia (we have NO babysitter, she's only been watched over-night by parents or family about 7 times in the past 2 years) and working my ass off at home to help build up HER bussiness I have dedicated myself to her. So in other words I am Sofia's caretaker 70% of the time... Recently we've had these nasty fights and Marica barrely sees Sofia. She got up at like 1:00pm, drove off to her appointment and came home at 2:00am after haning out at a "platonic male friend's" house and blowing me off. If crap goes the way Marcia wants Sofia will go from seeing me 70% or so of the day on average to seeing me twice a month or whatever. Just the thought of it is breaking my heart. The problem wiht me, that I need to work on is I need counceling, WE need counceling actually. I'm too much like my angry and insensitive dad and Marica is a Type-A personality to the max. The combination cane be lethal. Still I want to work it out, go to counceling or whatever it takes while for months now she's just wanted to walk away. My entire life is a clusterfuck right now... both the Coupe DeVille and STS got vandalised on different days in different towns so perhaps I have some enemies or some crap. The STS's windshield got smashed using a crow bar or smoething big... it's 1" away rom the roofline which would have and could have totalled the car. And some asshole chucked a full glass bottle of Snapple at the Coupe DeVille and you wouldn't believe how much damage THAT did to the hod and "spear" trim. Not that I even care about the cars right now, they could all get totaled and I'd still be hardpressed to give a damn. Thanks for "listening" guys.

Wow... wouldn't that be heaven on earth?

Only about a half dozen times in my life have I found myself so depressed, angry, despondent, miserable & distressed that even cars & car related activities did not lift my spirits... even thoe sight of a '69 Camaro or a '50s Cadillac did not put a smile on my face. I have reached rock bottom in my life. I'm really so upset and have been of the past two days I can not even acomplish basic tasks like basic math. Marcia (girlfriend of 4 years) has as of two days ago told me that we are through. Over. Done. Not even a chance in hell that she will make an effort at our relationship. Does not love me anymore, in fact H-A-T-E-S me. And of course our 22month old daughter Sofia is caught in the middle of this cluster f**k of a tornado taht is fast approaching. Broken Home Separation Bitter arguments Custody Visitation Child Support Payments It's all so damn depressing to me I keep having really bad thoughts of putting myself out of the misery of the next few days, weeks, months & years of my life. I want us to be a family. I ahve my faults but I still love Marcia and I want the three of us to be a loving household. The most screwed up part is that as recently as 4 days ago we had a nice romantic evening with ALL that comes with it and discussed trying for a second baby since we do not want Sofia to be an only child. I was and I hated it. I have a terribel temper and have been making small changes to improve that... there's a lot of crap that happened in our past but overall I really thought things were getting better... then I found out that she was lying to me and and sneaking around behind my back and all this other bullshit and I confronted her about it and she says: "I have not had faith in this relationship lasting to months now, and I'm just preparing myself for the inedidable, we need to move on...." I don't want to write a whole damn book about our past but let's just say we both made a lot of dumb mistakes. Since we both love our daughter Sofia more than life itself I always thought it would work out between us though. For the first time in everal years even a long roadtrip is not cheering me up at all. Normally if I'm really pissed or upset a 20 minute drive in one of my beaters does the trick. I get focused, work it out in my head, accept the situation and go on with my life. But even hanging out with a couple friends tonight and taking a long spin in a gorgeous '79 Coupe DeVille did NOTHING for my mental well being, blood pressure or strees level. I feel so emotionaly drained and hollow inside that GM goign bankrupt right now could not possibly make me feel any worse than I possibly am, and on the flip side even a 5th gen. Camaro intro would not be able to lift my spirits. For those of you that know me you know that means I feel my life is over. My brain says I have to move on with my life and pick myself up off the floor, my heart says I can't go throught this nasty, viscious breakup and I'd do anything to be able to be a family again. Me, Marcia & Sofie. I guess like they say you don't ever appreciate what you have till it's gone. :mellow: Advice is always appreciated. I'm out of ideas. :(

Just like with the Datsun the rarity and wow factor would be enough for me to buy it. Cool.

Wow.... all my automotive favoritism aside that is terrible. It's sad that some girl was paralized and even sadder that this would happen to the evidence.

I've seen much worse but you know what they say: "You can't make a silk purse out of a Sow's ear!"

The '60 is pretty cool out back but up front I prefer the traditional look of the twin port grille. Either way make mine a hardtop.