Sixty8panther

Okay... I can understand your point. One thing I'd like to throw in there is that GM has advanced engine technoloogy more than anyone else, in the past few decades they've had their ups and downs, but overall, they have in the past made fantastic contributions to the field. Honda has too, esp. given their relatively short existance & some of their cutting edge stuff, but in the real world Honda cars do nothing for me, they turn me off 99 times out of a hundred, save for the S2000, NSX & to a smaller degree the 2nd gen. CRX and a few Preludes/Integras... they seem to be going downhill if anything, as far as production cars, which is where it counts! There's a small chance I'll own a Honda generator, ATV or maybe even a motorcycle, the pancake-6 powered Valkrie used to catch my eye as a teenager, but their cars by & large do not exite me at all, esp. the new stuff:

It don't get anymore REAL than a '69 Yenko Super Camaro with a high-nickel-content 427, even a clone of one is so mighty that everytime one starts up Al Gore has a small twitch in his brain & Mustangs get the chills.

LOL... that's C&G for ya. Soooo back to the Challenger, let's talk some more about how its better than anything Toyota has produced in their 72 years in the Automotive business.... I guess it ALMOST ties with the '67 2000GT, but that car like most Japanese cars gets an F-minus for originality.

I ufcking KNEW IT!!!!!!! I've been waiting patiently for this (news) to get out, Toyo-pet Nippon Inc., being the scumbag lying & cheaeting organization it is always ends up getting exposed for the crappy dirtbag $hitshow it is... Problem is: no one in the USA ever listens. I once tried to explain to a buddy (NOT a car guy at all) about how the computer in my STS works: the average MPG reading was always very accurate, within 0.1 mpg but the instantaneous 48-mpg you get going downhill, coasting at 79 mph is NOT any indication of the truth... too many people are too dumb to think for themselves, maybe that's why we're so obsessed with computers these days... too freekin lazy & stupid.

Yes, very true. Unlike Ford, Toyota, Hyundai, Kia & many others that have gotten caught with their pants down when an owner has not been able to verify performance or HP. Remember the Ford Mustang Cobra debacle in 1999. Pathetic.

Siegen: Here's what it boils down to: GM has once AGAIN made a car with incredible bang/$. I am not inconvenienced by however liters are under the hood... I'd be okay with a CTS-V displacing 99 liters and getting only 30-HP-per-liter so long as the fuel economy stayed in the teens, and weather the car's V8 or V10 has 4 cams or ONE cam is all the same to most buyers, it certainly does NOT cost them MORE for the more durrable & reliable pushrod variant, while a forced-induction motor does wear out quicker the type of consumer who will be buying either the CTS-V or the BMW M5 does not care about that much at all beyond (maybe) MSRP and maintenance... Any way you slice it, whatever way you want to spin it GM has consistantly offered awesome value (bang/$) on desirable sports cars, sport sedans & muscle cars. Now what I want to know, please do not take offense to this, but I'm honestly asking: Why is it that you post here as often as most GM fans? Seldom if ever do you wax poetic on anything other than the Acura NSX or some other (IMHO) overpriced & overrated Honda product... What GM vehicle inspires (or inspired) you to post here originally? I do not mind you playing devil's advocate but sometimes it seems you just hang out to reign on everyone's parade....? Again, I'm, not trying to be a d!ck, just asking.

my retort: classic/old beater land yacht always makes any day/night/dull winter day exciting. I never get bored of an old carburated pushrod V8 turning over, it's so much more viceral, so much more manly & a delight to the senses... a loud bellowing catalitic-converter-less torque monster w. a lumpy idle, the smell of a '50s or '60s GM interior... the squeak as the rear 1/4 windows drop down, the patina of decades old gauges and vibration of a big, nasty V8 as it reaches redline (my '68 Camaro reveed to 7000 as if a BMW's I6) and a million other details that excite the senses! That's something even a $100,000 worth of '09 car will NEVER offer.... even when it becomes a "classic" (to use the term losely) in 2024...

The square footage of my brain? [my cocknballs] to the third power + 2.74

Fu** the chicks... my p0rn stash is mighty, i just want lots of car-n-car action! on second thought... yeah, f#$% the chicks.,

I saw more Trabants every day of my life up to age 8.5 than there are stars in the sky. (in nevada, 5o miles from vegas... new moon) Always liked Skodas... esp. the '70s fastbacks. And even as a kid i despised FWD, he '80 Favorit turned me off big time! Tatras were only meant for high-tier Commie limos & "red feds" as you might call them, they struck fear in the hearts of the older gen. that witnessed the commie-anti-resistance of '68. My dad has some stories but he's too young to remember most of the really ugly stuff. Anyway here in the USA the feds use black Cadillacs & Burbans... behind the iron curtain it was Tatras & Chaikas.

Giggaty-giggaty!!! BTW: I love thetangents we go on here @ c-n-g. I'm prob. one of the worst instigators...

I just love that "America's hat" ref. 6o Canada... btw: does that make Mexico the thong or jock strap?

I guess I'm not impressed because they were just like a french Corolla in CzechoSlovakia in the 1980s when i was a pre-teen. Very frumpy & upright even in a sea of communist era carz.

Yup... it's def. close enough to almost be a body-double to this turd: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3292/268500...52cdfe3.jpg?v=0 http://www.g-forum.net/historic/REX/rex6.jpg http://home.att.net/~giffk/r8wht.jpg http://mcnally.cc/pics/65R10.JPG http://bopuc.levendis.com/photolog/images/...57-48RM0025.jpg

The second one is better than the first IMO just for the fact that the '69 Yenko Camaro gets some screen time... AND a modern riced-out Mustang gets eaten, chewed up & spit out by wheels 15-18 of an 18-wheeler. I'm sick to death of the same old cars in movies. I'd rather watch a Care-bears Xmas special than see 'nother flick with a '64.5 Mustang or a '68-'70 Charger... that $h! is so played out it's pathetic. Even the (Barra)'Cuda, Ferrari (insert any generic V12-powered '80s Italian Sausage here) '68-'74 Nova, '70 Chevelle, Viper... there's just so many cars that have had their time on the big screen time & time again, and yet the underexposed '69 Camaro is IMHO way cooler!

1966 Muh-Stang: You like the Imperial? It's my favorite post-WWII Mopar of all time, well... pertty much any 1957-1960 Imperial HT. As far as the kanoodeling in the back seat of a car, that gunmetal gray with burgundy leather '86 Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham that we had for like 6 weeks was used to that end more than once, one time in particular at a local ultra-snoby country club. (golf course) No coitus has occured in the B-59 yet, that needs to be remedied when the car has its 364 nailhead bolted back together. As far as the B-pillar thing: right you are! Worst experiences (most difficult sex-in-a-car) is without a doubt the ex's Mazda MX-3 GS, at the time I was driving a '97 Pontiac Grand Am SE V6 sedan, not much better.

HAAHHAHAAhahah.... you took a few pics. of the Phord-5.0 powered Vulva 740 huh? The last 1/3 of your pics. are all coming up [x] Glad you had a good time, good job for posting those quickly, I've got over a thousand photos just from these Kimballs shows (past 6 years) and I've yet to post more than maybe a dozen... I'll try to post some of mine in the next few days. Whaddaitellya? That '58 Imperial LeBaron hardtop in red/white/red & Tall-Paul buddy's '31 Studebaker all-weather-roadster are two remarkable cars, they still take my breath away and I've seen the Imperial about 7 or 8 times and Robert's Studebaker I've seen twice before but it's just stunning, esp. if you know how original it is. to the max!

Speaking of splicing atoms, the title of this thread should read: QUICKER than the BMW M5. faster = top speed quick = 0-60, 1/4 mile run etc...

DF: I gotta disagree with you here... I fully understand your disgust w/ the series, and trust me I have gripes myself but I do consider these movies guilty pleasure. Have not seen the 3rd movie but the 427 powered 1969 Yenko Super Camaro in the 2nd movie was the first (and only?) big screen use of a Yenko anything, & I am a diehard, white-knuckle, "get-into-a-barfight-over-it" 1969 Camaro fanatic, so the YSC is like my holy grail when it comes to muscle cars. The sceene with that scary looking Kenworth W900 & krazy-funky 5-th wheel Chevy trucks is enough that I will go see this in theaters, the forced induction G-body tri-sheild is just icing on the cake. You gotta take it for what it is, eye-candy. Kind of like a really fancy wedding cake shapped like a New Orleans mansion with a '57 Bel Air hardtop in the horseshoe driveway... looks pretty damn cool but probably not much substance once you bite into it. Even when the cars suck, those Mitsu-bitchy twins in the second movie were disgusting, like two big gross boogers that fell out of King Kong's nose, esp. the hideous Eclipse, the crashes, stunts & over-the-top bull$hit driving/jumping is still fun to watch. Moltar/Stang66: Rally Racing is probably about no.3 on my list of all time coolest motrosports, the first two would be 24 hours of LeMans & 1967/8/9/70/71 Trans Am 5.0 series that basically resulted in the coolest combo in human history: muscle car + race track that turns left AND right, a lot.

I'm DOWN witht he SICKNESS, baaad. Cars keep me too occupied to get into much of anything else, including booze & drugs. Now sex, that's another story...

Moltar: FuuuQ yeah! I went to see the second one, with the gorgeous LeMans blue '69 YSC in the theaters. At the time I owned the '68 Camaro still, so I might have also done a few gratuitous burnout sessions in the spirit of pissing off Ricers. :wink:

hahahah... crazy, thanks for sharing Moltar. And yes, of cousre, can't beleive I left out the Renault referance, so it was a rebadge?

1965 Hino Contessa...? (okay, I'm back from my Google search) Wow... if there's one word to describe the Japanese Auto industry it would def. be: "unoriginal" This thing is such a hodge-podge of a '60s era Wartburg, Puegeot, BMW, Trabant & Fiat it almost has a Communist vibe. See for yourself: http://www2.uol.com.br/bestcars/carros/jap...essa-1300-4.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/Grin...scl/CropCar.jpg http://www.co-opones.to/confacto/images/Co...saFrontront.jpg http://image.motortrend.com/f/features/aut...+front_view.jpg For the record I think it's not unattractive for an economy car, it's not great but not ugly either and certainly beats the crap out of any modern car stylistically.

Wow... good for you, and that sux at the same time. Thank god you're okay. Feb. of 2007 I called up XP and told him how I had pleaded with my ex to take my daughter for the night so I could go on a "quick" roadtrip in my 1964 Olds Super 88 top go look at the '59 Buick LeSabre that I bought two months later... he came along, as he's almost always game for a good old roadtrip to look at a classic car, on our way back from the three telephone pole town that the Buick lived at I was driving on 290 when XP & I noticed a HUGE blaze up on the hills close to the Catholic University in Worcester (Holy Cross IIRC) we drove up to the sceene, as far as we could get, & I gotta tell you I developed a new respect for fire-fighting that night. The intense, almost liquid-like heat & rapiddly spreading flames scared the $h! out of me... from about 50yards away my face seemed to be melting while the flames were blinding, I was honestly worried about the Super-88's paint bubbling up & peeling if I had driven any closer. So my Canada is off to you, Sir. :AH-HA_wink:

Maybe a set of Coupe deVille emblems would be in order, or how about (all joking aside) having the pillarless hardtop roof conversion with a stainless steel roof panel: Eldorado Brougham, script on the trunklid & small, elegant hand pinstriped "by Fleetwood" emblems on the doors. Let's just hope Cadillac does not start buying up Alitalia 747s to ship bodies over the pond again, THAT was a great use of $$$ :roleyes: