Sixty8panther

FIXED: CTHC-V Cadillac Touring Hardtop Coupe - V-series

I see a greenhouse that resembles a Lexus ES. Impressed I am not.

I love BMW and Mercedes, many new & classic BMWs and MBs were depictedin the posters that hung in my room back in my middle & high school years (1989-1997) and I still love many new BMWs and M-Benz products, esp. the M- series Bimmers & CLK/CL hardtops from Daimler. That being said it is FACT that as far as the "bang-for-the-buck" performance-sedan category goes this Cadillac kicks both their rears into next tuesday. Siegen: Frankly I'm sick to DEATH of so many members here who splice ATOMS except when a clear chasm exists that is NOT in their favor or to their liking & therefore it is negligable or irrelevant. You can not agrue with those numbers. Period.

I agree, rule no. 2 is obsolete like laser-disks.

Looks like Mercedes & BMW will be stuck eating SOURkraut for a while. While Lexus, Acura & even Infiniti are stuck sitting in the corner of the recreation room, watching re-runs of "Matlock" ...drooling on their laps & bumbling like old man wearing extra absorbent depends. So, PUSHRODS are dead eh...? Sounds a lot like "Dewie defeats Truman" to me!

I think that Mustang pissed itself! One of each of the '10 Mustang / '10 Challenger / '10 Camaro ? Ehhh... I think I'd rather have a three car garage containing a '59 Buick Riviera 225 (Flattop 4dr or bubbletop 4dr Riviera), '30-'37 Cadillac V16 (452) dual Cowl Phaeton & a '10 Camaro SS 6-speed, for you know... practicality & winter months. but if it HAD to be three MODERN cars, from 2009/2010: Chevrolet Camaro (HAS TO BE A MANUAL TRANS.) Cadillac CTC (yes, you read it right... think about it!) Pontiac G8 GT (also manual, leave the automatic for the Cadillac) aaaaaaand at least two of the three woud be getting a B-pillar delete conversion & an extra pair of window regulators & P.W. motors.

Yup... I agree with 99% of that, although I will say there was something very cool & refreshing about my '62 Buick's lack of a choke... the car WOULD not start when the block was ice cold unless you somehow choked the hell out of that little carb. My solution, since I drive off to work between 3:00 & 3:30 in the MORNING was to drill a few holes in a soup can. I simply popped the hood using the external release in the morning, spun the big nut on the air-cleaener and removed it placing it on or around the radiator support, then I plopped the soup-can on the carb, pumped the gas pedal twice & turned that little lumpy little fireball V6 over for no more than 2-3 sec and the car would be good to go, then, after I inhaled my pop-tarts or bagel, I'd replace the air cleaner & drop the hood. Some, er... MOST people would find that annoying and would immediately instal a choke cable, but I thought it was a fun reminder every morning that I was driving a car that was manufactured during the dawn of JFKs presidency! Now THAT, my friends, is how you separatee the MEN from the BOYS! I'd gladdly put up with that little quirk to get that car back, add that little Buick Special to the list of cars I'd love to have back, it was quick as a bunny, more fun to drive than some muscle cars I've had the chance to sample & it got 15mpg 100% CITY! How you going to beat that while still driving a car assembled in 1961? Oh, and the purchase price was $800!!! <good times>

At any rate... [i agree to disagree politey] congrats on buying domestic.

that' automotive scripture right there...

Agreed, it's far superior to most V6s... and I-8s are smoother still, now splice TWo I-8s to make V16 & you have "internal combustion heaven", and that is the definition of Cadillac luxury... not a fwd DTS w. dohc V8 power, take II.

Guess how many people spend $70,000 on an STS-V & care about mpg!? Guess...? My guess is less than 2%

Who sounds like a dumbass now? All the more reason why a range topping V16 is the only way Cadillac will ever fully reclaim its status as "standard of the world..." oh, and good job reading my post, a ohv 5 liter V16 would NOT be much bigger than a 5.0 litr twin turbo DOHC V8! You sir,sound like a pie faced simpleton.

Well said, and if I was going to "live in the past" it sure as hell would NOT be the past that a member with the user name "97-W-body-BUICK" wants to see prepetuated in to the next decade: more $hitty product that boils down to nothing but wanna-be-Camry matterial. All you status-quo-loving people who embrace cafe & think we should all just wave a white flag and buy a FWD midsize car that has little appeal past a Camry JUST because it is a GM by name ARE the enemy. Either you are with us, wanting & demanding great, fantastic & excuse-free product and resisting the "bean-counter-GM" of the past 3 decades, or you might as well just not call yourself a GM fanatic at ALL!

Hey, cool, welcome (back?) Whachu driving? Still the Tin Indian Kappa I hope.

Overall I loev it, but what a lost opportunity to take on Mercedes' CLK class cars with their ultra-sexy hardtop styling. GM is great at one thing: compromising. Another chance to make a real, honest to goodness World-class product that makes no apologies, & here we are already looking at a ruined product before it even hits the showrooms and the press have their stabs at it. More and more, GM sucks at life.

'66 Stang: Except for that very twisted and scary thought of me as a Toypet-humper, I agree 100%. If I could, (all that stops me is lack of $$$) I'd be daily driving a 1950s 80-100% original car with one speaker in the dashboard (remember REVERB?!) and if and when I wanted to get some great 'tunes on I'd install a hidden CD/AM/FM/HD/MP3-player & decent 6-speaker+ subwoofer setup. I had my '68 Camaro for almost 4 years & never in that whole tiome was there a Radio installed in the car, for the record the HVAC was deleted too as it had been a genuine drag car for half its life. I'd take that car, THAT way, restored, over any new Ford including the GT(40)... well if I got a GT I could sell it and buy a rough btu restorable '30s Cadillac 452 V16 but that's 'nother story. Radios are for cars who's engines are either near silent or do not make any sound worth listening to, interesting or otherwise.

no doubt.... salt (sea) air is brutal. My buddy's (co-worker's) car that he brought up from Florida... (1994-ish Buick Century) had such bad rot in the A-pillars that there were holes in them, and yet the paint was flawless and the car was otherwise in great shape, not even high milage, it was parked next to the beach all its life. One of the reasons I passed on a somewhat "cheap" & very tempting '71 Monte Carlo that lived up at Hampton Beach all of its life, it was a tripple-black SS, as in 4-to-da-5-to-da-4! The owner advertised it as minimal rust... the only thing that was "minimal" about the rust was the amount of metal that was NOT rusted through on the undercarriage & suspension... frame was decent but scaby.

NO wonder it has some ugly design cues. That I do vaguely remember... this car appears in a few of the the books in my automotive library. That is news to me... wow...

Geez, GM is stuck in the past, it's not 1905 anymore! (the year Cadillac introduced the 1st mass-produced 4-cylinder engine!) I think if it is done right, it COULD work, but I'd rather see this product under the Chevy & Pontiac banner. I'm not sure what is MORE sacriligious, a "DTS" w/ a sideways V8 and FWd or a RWD 4-cylinder, if it was three years ago I'd prob. say the 4-cylinder-RWD, but it's a bit more fuzzy today.

Yeah... that's a great deal all day long. This is the GM car that went out of production in '96 M.Y. & the Mass. State Police were still repairing, servicing, & rebuilding them using NOS & aftermarket parts & putting them out for duty in the mid 2000s since the NEW! Ford Interceptors were outclassed, outperformed & generally just plain _owned by the B-bodys. I've seen a few 9C1/police Caprice Classic Estates over the years, there's a few photos of N.Y.C. stickered up examples on the 'net.

Dear lord. That's both horrific (by 2008 standards) and funny as $hit, (by "back in the day those were just used cars" standards)

Moltar: I think Lamar proved my point pretty well... unless you consider Bentleys to be a sub-par luxury cars as compared to a '08 DTS. At any rate, the Corvette Zo6 & ZR1 have, undoubtedly put the DOHC>OHV agrument to sleep, how many times does the Vette have to win LeMans against a V12 DOHC Ferrari for the DOHC humpers to STFU? (with all due respect!) DOHC was cool in 1929 when it made the Dusenberg special, & as you yourself said that era is long gone. ---- Now speaking of the V16, I will fight to the death that a small displacement V16 could, ney - SHOULD be a part of Cadillac's weapons' arsenal in the next decade. Like I've said time & time again, think two modern BOP 215s... or, even smaller would be fine. PUSHROD? YES, for simplicity, esp. on such a smal scale. How sick would it be to see an engine the size of a BMW slant six but with SIXTEEN cylinders, displacing 5 or 6 liters. Ohhh-yeah!!!

more hardtops than you can shake a stick at... and yes, those days people KNEW what a hardtop WAS and they apreciated the luxury.

Moltar: HOw can you hate on the pushrod V8 with today's LS-series motors?

V12 are played out, everyone's had them from Jaguar to BMW... I for one could give a f*** less about twelve cylinders, either go BIG, (sixteen) or don't even waste the money to being with. There will never be any exclusivity from a 12 cylinder when page 4 iof the owner's manual has a photo of a '31 Cadillac phaeton w/ a 452 (ohv) V16, where's the BEEF? GM: Either stop being pu%$ies, step up to a V16, or stick to V8s.