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    2016 Cadillac CTS-V To Start At $84,990, Taking Orders Now


    • How much for the 2016 Cadillac CTS-V?


    Cadillac announced today that it is opening the order books for the 2016 CTS-V which will be hitting dealers later this summer. To get your hands on one, be ready to fork over $84,990 (includes a $995 destination charge). While the price may send some of you into shock, the CTS-V still undercuts many of its German rivals.

    • Audi RS7: Starts at $108,900*, $23,910 Difference
    • BMW M5: Starts at $93,600*, $8,610 Difference
    • Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG S 4Matic: Starts at $101,700*, $16,710 Difference

    (*Note: Prices don't include a destination fee.)

    “V-Series represents the pinnacle of Cadillac, a brand that now makes drivers’ cars at the highest level. The new CTS-V is essentially two cars in one: a luxury sedan with sophisticated road manners and a track-capable sports car with awe-inspiring performance. This type of car is exclusive, the domain of the few who can access this level of incredible capability. V-Series matches or overtakes the finest cars in this elite class, while being more accessible,” said Johan de Nysschen, Cadillac president.

    Source: Cadillac

    Press Release is on Page 2


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    Still much better price than the BMW and Benz. If it falls short anywhere it will be forgivable and if it leads in any area it will prove to be a bargain.

     

    Hellcat? Sorry this is a complete package not a value car with an expensive engine that can not use all the power it makes.

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    Priced about where you'd expect.  More than a Charger Hellcat, less than an M5.

     

    All your favorite Europeans (which are this car's direct competitors) are more than Hellcat and a regular Charger combined, what is your point? Anything to belittle Cadillac? If you have no nice things to type, don't type anything.

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    I would be more disturbed by a Malibu nearing $40K and a Cruse nearing $30K.

     

    Everyone wants to make more money but it just starts a viscous circle where you want to make more prepare to pay more.

     

    We all can expect to be millionaires and still shop at Walmart.

     

    I expect it will get only worse and the people in the pool able to buy a new car will only grow smaller or more in debt.

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    So the price of the CTS-V = E63 - six months of Benz depreciation

     

    Not to stir the pot in yet another Cadillac thread (this is getting old), but have you seen this? Or looked up depreciation through a cost-to-own site such as KBB's? Or perused Cars.com or Autotrader listings for that matter? I think you'll see interesting things that may be slightly out of sync with what you want to see. Just saying...

     

    ANYHOW, that pricing seems appropriate given the previous model's pricing and the lower rung models' pricing, new vs. old. Perfecto.

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    So the price of the CTS-V = E63 - six months of Benz depreciation

     

    Not to stir the pot in yet another Cadillac thread (this is getting old), but have you seen this? Or looked up depreciation through a cost-to-own site such as KBB's? Or perused Cars.com or Autotrader listings for that matter? I think you'll see interesting things that may be slightly out of sync with what you want to see. Just saying...

     

    ANYHOW, that pricing seems appropriate given the previous model's pricing and the lower rung models' pricing, new vs. old. Perfecto.

     

    We'll it is the washington post, always a political point to be made. Do not trust them on anything related to the auto industry. :P

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    So the price of the CTS-V = E63 - six months of Benz depreciation

     

    Not to stir the pot in yet another Cadillac thread (this is getting old), but have you seen this? Or looked up depreciation through a cost-to-own site such as KBB's? Or perused Cars.com or Autotrader listings for that matter? I think you'll see interesting things that may be slightly out of sync with what you want to see. Just saying...

     

    ANYHOW, that pricing seems appropriate given the previous model's pricing and the lower rung models' pricing, new vs. old. Perfecto.

     

     

    As we've all been told multiple times, the S-Class is the standard of the world. Even in your article, a Mercedes S-Class loses 32.4% of its value in the first year... or roughly $32,400.  Six months of depreciation is $16,200, so seeing as that was just a snarky guess on my part, it still seems to be pretty accurate.  

     

    In absolute dollar terms, after 2 years of Benz ownership, you will have basically bought a CTS V-Sport with your depreciation. 

     

    Using the percentages in that article

    An E63 will be worth about $68,750, a loss of $32,950.

    A CTS-V will be worth about $53,629, a loss of $31,361

    After figuring for the opportunity costs and interest expense of spending an extra $16k on the Benz, the Cadillac is a much better deal.... and it will be at least an equally capable vehicle.

     

    Percentages are fun to look at, but in the end, it comes down to actual dollars and sense

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    All expensive sedans depreciate quickly.  Sports cars hold value, cars like a 911 or Corvette.  Which I never got why someone would pay $60,000 for a 6 year old 911 when a new one is $85,000.

     

    Cadillac really needs the CTS-V to sell on merit so they can build the brand image.  You don't want to have the image of "we're the discount luxury brand, buy our car because it is cheaper."  You want people to buy to buy your car because it is better or the brand image creates some emotional connection.  That is how Porsche gets fools to pay $800 for a carbon fiber rear window wiper.

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    All expensive sedans depreciate quickly.  Sports cars hold value, cars like a 911 or Corvette.  Which I never got why someone would pay $60,000 for a 6 year old 911 when a new one is $85,000.

     

    Cadillac really needs the CTS-V to sell on merit so they can build the brand image.  You don't want to have the image of "we're the discount luxury brand, buy our car because it is cheaper."  You want people to buy to buy your car because it is better or the brand image creates some emotional connection.  That is how Porsche gets fools to pay $800 for a carbon fiber rear window wiper.

     

    So SMK, in summary you are saying Cadillac cannot be standard of the world until it starts fooling the customers, even if it offers value, dynamics, performance, technology at par or superior than its competitors at a lower price. Got it!!

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    No, I am not saying they need to fool customers.  I am just saying Cadillac shouldn't aspire to be the value luxury brand, they need to promote the product more than the price.  If this car is better than an M5, I'm sure Cadillac would like to price it at $95,000 base and pocket and extra $10k in profit.   But I'd imagine their pricing analysts don't see them getting enough volume if it were M5 money.  That perceived value or brand image is where the luxury brands make their profit. 

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    So the price of the CTS-V = E63 - six months of Benz depreciation

     

    Not to stir the pot in yet another Cadillac thread (this is getting old), but have you seen this? Or looked up depreciation through a cost-to-own site such as KBB's? Or perused Cars.com or Autotrader listings for that matter? I think you'll see interesting things that may be slightly out of sync with what you want to see. Just saying...

     

    ANYHOW, that pricing seems appropriate given the previous model's pricing and the lower rung models' pricing, new vs. old. Perfecto.

     

     

    As we've all been told multiple times, the S-Class is the standard of the world. Even in your article, a Mercedes S-Class loses 32.4% of its value in the first year... or roughly $32,400.  Six months of depreciation is $16,200, so seeing as that was just a snarky guess on my part, it still seems to be pretty accurate.  

     

    In absolute dollar terms, after 2 years of Benz ownership, you will have basically bought a CTS V-Sport with your depreciation. 

     

    Using the percentages in that article

    An E63 will be worth about $68,750, a loss of $32,950.

    A CTS-V will be worth about $53,629, a loss of $31,361

    After figuring for the opportunity costs and interest expense of spending an extra $16k on the Benz, the Cadillac is a much better deal.... and it will be at least an equally capable vehicle.

     

    Percentages are fun to look at, but in the end, it comes down to actual dollars and sense

     

     

    It is true that you will still save money with the CTS-V, even taking into account the listed MSRP for the E63 is actually $94.5k for non S models. According to my (by all means, rough; no Ins or EPA data to use) calculations, the 5 year cost-to-own for the CTS-V may undercut the E63 by a bit, on top of the purchase price difference. 

     

    Still, ignoring the snark... E-class depreciation =/= S-class depreciation < CTS depreciation, regardless. :P

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    Caddy shoud not be allowing pics of the V cars in white.  Check out the ATS V writeup on C/D website.  It has the dark gray ATS V coupe.  Stunning and expensive looking, the white ruins it.

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    So the price of the CTS-V = E63 - six months of Benz depreciation

     

    Not to stir the pot in yet another Cadillac thread (this is getting old), but have you seen this? Or looked up depreciation through a cost-to-own site such as KBB's? Or perused Cars.com or Autotrader listings for that matter? I think you'll see interesting things that may be slightly out of sync with what you want to see. Just saying...

     

    ANYHOW, that pricing seems appropriate given the previous model's pricing and the lower rung models' pricing, new vs. old. Perfecto.

     

     

    As we've all been told multiple times, the S-Class is the standard of the world. Even in your article, a Mercedes S-Class loses 32.4% of its value in the first year... or roughly $32,400.  Six months of depreciation is $16,200, so seeing as that was just a snarky guess on my part, it still seems to be pretty accurate.  

     

    In absolute dollar terms, after 2 years of Benz ownership, you will have basically bought a CTS V-Sport with your depreciation. 

     

    Using the percentages in that article

    An E63 will be worth about $68,750, a loss of $32,950.

    A CTS-V will be worth about $53,629, a loss of $31,361

    After figuring for the opportunity costs and interest expense of spending an extra $16k on the Benz, the Cadillac is a much better deal.... and it will be at least an equally capable vehicle.

     

    Percentages are fun to look at, but in the end, it comes down to actual dollars and sense

     

     

    It is true that you will still save money with the CTS-V, even taking into account the listed MSRP for the E63 is actually $94.5k for non S models. According to my (by all means, rough; no Ins or EPA data to use) calculations, the 5 year cost-to-own for the CTS-V may undercut the E63 by a bit, on top of the purchase price difference. 

     

    Still, ignoring the snark... E-class depreciation =/= S-class depreciation < CTS depreciation, regardless. :P

     

     

     

     

    CTS depreciation of late.. as in 2014 models has more to do with the overproduction that Cadillac is correcting than anything else.

     

    In terms of VSeries, versus say AMG.. the depreciation factor is in the Cadillac owner's favor.

     

    My 2012 VCoupe with 20K on the ODO is worth $42K after I paid $73K OTD, or a loss of 43%

     

    A '12 AMG E63 with same features and mileage is at  $58K, paid OTD $130K, or a loss of 55%

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      VOLKSWAGEN ANNOUNCES PRICING OF CHATTANOOGA-BUILT 2018 ATLAS, STARTING AT $30,500
      The thoughtfully-designed Atlas packs a great value, offering generous space, sophisticated driving dynamics and a host of available driver assistance and technology features Pricing starts at $30,500 for the four-cylinder turbocharged 2.0L TSI® S FWD model (late availability) Five trim levels, priced for the heart of the competitive SUV market Two engine options: four-cylinder TSI® turbo or the available powerful VR6®, both with eight-speed automatic transmissions Optional 4Motion® all-wheel-drive system on V6 models Comfortable seating for up to seven adults, with innovative access system for the third row Available interior features include innovative Volkswagen Digital Cockpit instrumentation Only vehicle in its class to offer Automatic Post-Collision Braking System HERNDON, VA (April 3, 2017) — Volkswagen of America, Inc., today announced pricing of the all-new, seven-passenger 2018 Atlas. With a starting Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price (MSRP) of $30,500 for the four-cylinder turbo 2.0L TSI® S FWD model (late availability), and $31,900 for the 3.6-liter V6 S FWD model, the Chattanooga-built SUV is loaded with standard equipment and available technology features. For maximum utility and comfort, the Atlas offers a spacious interior, with innovative access to the third row.
      Based on the award-winning Modular Transverse Matrix (MQB) architecture, the Atlas is also fun-to-drive, a signature of Volkswagen vehicles. Atlas models will be available with two engine options, both with an eight-speed automatic transmission: the four-cylinder turbocharged and direct-injection 2.0-liter TSI engine, which produces 235 horsepower and 258 lb-ft of torque (achieved using premium fuel), and the 3.6-liter VR6® engine, which makes 276-horsepower and 266 lb-ft of torque. An optional 4Motion® all-wheel-drive system is available on VR6 models.
      The 2018 Atlas is scheduled to arrive in dealerships in May, and will be available in five trim levels to meet the diverse needs and tastes of U.S. customers.
      MODEL LINE UP
      Atlas S (Late availability)
      The Atlas TSI S starts at $30,500 and features a standard four-cylinder turbocharged 2.0L TSI engine. Standard exterior features include 18-inch aluminum-alloy wheels; stainless-steel roof rails; LED headlights with LED Daytime Running Lights (DRL); and a rearview camera. Inside, standard equipment includes a 6.5-inch Composition Color touchscreen infotainment system with Bluetooth® connectivity for compatible devices, USB port, Car-Net® App-Connect for compatible devices, enabling seamless integration with the three major smartphone platforms—Apple CarPlay™, Android Auto™ and MirrorLink®; 6 speakers; cruise control; and privacy glass. A 3.6-liter V6 S FWD model is available for $31,900. A 3.6-liter V6 S AWD model is available for $33,700.
      Atlas S Launch (Limited availability)
      Available at launch, and only with the 3.6-liter VR6 engine, the Atlas S Launch model is available as a frontwheel-drive model for $33,500, and with all-wheel drive for $35,300. This model adds the following features to the S trim offerings: panoramic sunroof; Homelink® garage door opener; footwell lighting; 8.0-inch Composition Media touchscreen infotainment system; and SiriusXM® Satellite Radio with a three-month trial subscription.
      Atlas SE
      Starting at $33,590, the Atlas SE builds off of the S trim. Features include heated door mirrors; automatic headlights; rain-sensing windshield wipers; Blind Spot Monitor w/Rear Traffic Alert; foglights; KESSY® keyless access w/push-button start; multi-function leather-wrapped steering wheel; V-Tex leatherette seating surface; heated front seats; rear sunshades; and 10-way power driver seats. The SE trim also features the 8.0-inch Composition Media touchscreen infotainment system with SiriusXM® Satellite Radio; 8 speakers; and 3 additional USB ports. A 3.6-liter V6 SE FWD model is available for $34,990. A 3.6-liter V6 S AWD model is available for $36,790.
      Atlas SE with Technology
      The Atlas SE with Technology model starts at $35,690, and includes a slate of modern convenience and advanced connectivity and driver assistance features, including: Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC); Forward Collision Warning and Autonomous Emergency Braking with Pedestrian Monitoring (Front Assist); Lane Departure Warning (Lane Assist), which actively helps the driver steer the car back into its lane if the driver takes his or her hands off the wheel for a defined period of time, or the vehicle crosses a lane marking without use of a turn signal; power liftgate; remote start; Climatronic® 3-zone automatic air conditioning; and an autodimming rearview mirror. A 3.6-liter V6 SE with Technology FWD model is available for $37,090. A 3.6-liter V6 SE with Technology AWD model is available for $38,890.
      Atlas SEL
      The Atlas SEL builds on the specifications of the SE with Technology model. For a starting price of $39,160, customers can enjoy even more upscale features: a panoramic sunroof; Easy Open liftgate; 8-way power passenger seat; memory function for driver’s seat and exterior mirrors; front and rear Park Distance Control and a convenient 115v power outlet in the second row (rear of the center console). VR6 models are equipped with a factory-installed tow hitch. A 3.6-liter V6 SEL FWD model is available for $40,890. A 3.6-liter V6 SEL AWD model is available for $42,690.
      Atlas SEL Premium
      Available only with 4Motion AWD system and 3.6-liter VR6 engine, the Atlas SEL Premium starts at $48,490. This top-of-the-line model increases the luxury quotient with: the sophisticated 12.3-inch Volkswagen Digital Cockpit, allowing drivers to reconfigure how they view vehicle information; 20-inch aluminum-alloy wheels; navigation; LED taillights; power-folding door mirrors; door mirrors with puddle lights; leather seating surfaces; ventilated front seats; heated rear seats; heated steering wheel; automatic High Beam Control (Light Assist); and ambient lighting. The Atlas SEL Premium also adds the following driver assistance and infotainment features: Parking Steering Assistant (Park Assist); Area View camera; and the Fender® Premium Audio System, with a 12-channel, 480-watt amplifier and 12 speakers.
      Option Packages
      Captain’s Chairs. Replacing a second-row bench seat, for a total seating capacity of six, Captain’s Chairs will be available in the SE, SE w/ Technology, SEL and SEL Premium models for $625. (Late availability)
      R-Line. A performance-inspired R-Line package will be available on Atlas SE and SEL trims for $1,960, and augments the SUV with exterior and interior design elements that give it an even sportier appearance. (Late availability)
      Black Wheels. Black 20-inch aluminum-alloy wheels are available on the SEL model for $995 and on the SEL Premium model for $235.
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