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    Next Lincoln Navigator To Go EcoBoost Only, Expedition To Get 5.0

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    By William Maley

    Staff Writer - CheersandGears.com

    March 12, 2013

    The next Lincoln Navigator will lose its a V8 and go with EcoBoost V6. This news comes from Lincoln Global Director Matt VanDyke via Motor Trend. The EcoBoost in question will the 3.5L that currently is in the F-150. With 365 hp and 410 lb-ft of torque, this is a very respectable increase from the Navigator's current 310 horsepower and 365 pound-feet. There is also talk of the 3.7L V6 with 302 horsepower and 278 pound-feet of torque appearing as the base engine.

    Is there any chance of a V8 appearing in the next Navigator? Probably not as VanDyke said that Lincoln is going all EcoBoost.

    Meanwhile at Ford, the next Expedition will likely get the 5.0L V8 with 360 horsepower and 380 pound-feet of torque. The Expedition might also get the 3.7L V6 and 3.5L EcoBoost, though the EcoBoost might be a Lincoln thing only.

    Source: Motor Trend

    William Maley is a staff writer for Cheers & Gears. He can be reached at william.maley@cheersandgears.com or you can follow him on twitter at @realmudmonster.

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    In a heavy SUV like this, I do not think a Twin Turbo V6 will hold up over the long haul like a V8 will. I know some will say I am wrong, but I still think this engine has allot to prove and that Ford has not the best record for turbo engines at least here in the US as they seem to die young and suck oil.

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    Sleeping on this, consider that Lincoln really is a Buick competitor and not up to competing with Cadillac, BMW, MB or Audi.

    This tends to make sense as Ford focuses on their mass market blue collar approach to sales with a model to step up to for those that can afford a little more luxury.

    In retrospect, I have to wonder why keep it at all with all the over priced plastic Platinum models Ford sells.

    Why even bother keeping Lincoln alive any longer.

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