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    Rumorpile: Ford and UAW Talking About Building The Ranger In U.S. , Restarting Sales


    • The Ranger is coming back?!

    Ever since Ford ended production of the Ranger in the U.S. in 2011, many have been clamoring for the blue oval to bring the Ranger sold elsewhere to the U.S. But Ford has said no since the current Ranger since the new model is close in size to the F-150, and would be very close in terms of pricing. But the blue oval could be changing that.

     

    The Detroit News has learned from sources that Ford wants to resurrect the Ranger pickup and build it at the Michigan Assembly Plant. Sources explained that Ford and the UAW are currently in contract talks, with one of the items being bringing the Ranger to the U.S. for the production. Now this will need to be agreed by the UAW and then Ford’s board of directors.

     

    Now bringing the Ranger over to the U.S. would allow Ford to take advantage of a marketplace that seems interested in mid-size trucks again - thank the Chevrolet Colorado and GMC Colorado.

     

    “There’s a real hunger for midsize trucks right now. Once upon a time, there were a lot of midsize trucks in this market. The ones that are available are cashing in on the demand,” said Karl Brauer, senior analyst for Kelley Blue Book.

     

    Bringing the Ranger to the U.S. would also solve the problem of what would be built at the Michigan Assembly plant. As we reported last month, Ford will be moving Focus and C-Max production from Michigan Assembly to a new plant, most likely Mexico.

     

    Source: The Detroit News

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    If they did that does that mean all new and not the global ranger?  They made it sound like the global Ranger won't work because it is too close to F150 in size..so does that mean we would be talking about something all new for us?

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    Obviously, it would be timed with an all new truck, be it global or US too. So I would expect anything at this point.

     

    So we have it on good rumor that Ford is bringing more Diesels to the US and now, possibly, Ranger too.

     

    Hey, being a fast-follower, instead of an trail blazer, at times, has it's advantages with of course, very few of the downsides. Can't wait to see what Ford does with all this.

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    If they did that does that mean all new and not the global ranger?  They made it sound like the global Ranger won't work because it is too close to F150 in size..so does that mean we would be talking about something all new for us?

     

    We don't know. Everyone seems to think it's going to be global Ranger because its ready to go. But as you pointed out, the Ranger is very close in size to the F-150 (older one). I don't know if this holds any water with the new one though.

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    GM seems to be enjoying a healthy resurgence in small trucks here, so, it would be a smart move.

    Would be Great if FORD did bring back a Compact Ranger for the market. while the Mid Size trucks have taken off, I believe this is more to do with it being the smallest truck available right now. I think there is plenty of Inner City ad Suburban home owners that would love to have a compact truck to use in running to Home Depot or Lowe's.

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    GM seems to be enjoying a healthy resurgence in small trucks here, so, it would be a smart move.

    Would be Great if FORD did bring back a Compact Ranger for the market. while the Mid Size trucks have taken off, I believe this is more to do with it being the smallest truck available right now. I think there is plenty of Inner City ad Suburban home owners that would love to have a compact truck to use in running to Home Depot or Lowe's.

     

    I don't know the dimensions of the global Ranger but is it smaller than the Canynado..?

     

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    So the Global Ranger based on what I have been able to find appears to be a bit bigger than the Canyon / Colorado and the pictures in this story show is it not much smaller than a RAM. So I would think FORD would need to do a TRUE mid size or compact size truck.

     

    http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2013/03/global-ranger-could-be-right-size-for-us.html

     

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    Here is the AU web site that covers the Rangers 3 models you can choose from.

    http://www.ford.com.au/commercial/ranger

     

    http://www.ford.com.au/commercial/ranger/models#step=1

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    GM seems to be enjoying a healthy resurgence in small trucks here, so, it would be a smart move.

    Would be Great if FORD did bring back a Compact Ranger for the market. while the Mid Size trucks have taken off, I believe this is more to do with it being the smallest truck available right now. I think there is plenty of Inner City ad Suburban home owners that would love to have a compact truck to use in running to Home Depot or Lowe's.

     

    I don't know the dimensions of the global Ranger but is it smaller than the Canynado..?

     

    Give me some time, and I'll be able to have answer for that.

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    ^ Awesome.

     

    Also, I guess, the Colorado/Canyon as well compared to their larer siblings.Because I was on a lot looking for one when they first came out and I literally walked right past a pair from the back side. They have to be 9/10ths Sierra/Silverado..

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    Employees at MAP, were notified recently that the Focus will no longer be built there, even after installing all their latest flexible tooling lines.  Kind of makes sens then, that Ford would want to make their smaller truck there, and right down the road from the large truck plant.  

    So I think this is a pretty solid rumor.

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    Slap a 2.7L V6 in an offroad version (Raptor like, if you will) of the Ranger, and they will sell like hot cakes. The current global Ranger is a sharp looking truck that I could see with a top shelf off road package.

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    Slap a 2.7L V6 in an offroad version (Raptor like, if you will) of the Ranger, and they will sell like hot cakes. The current global Ranger is a sharp looking truck that I could see with a top shelf off road package.

    ROFLMAO -  :rofl:

     

    Ranger Raptor with EcoBoost Powertrain, 

     

    I can see all the Marketing play on this!  :rolleyes:

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    Slap a 2.7L V6 in an offroad version (Raptor like, if you will) of the Ranger, and they will sell like hot cakes. The current global Ranger is a sharp looking truck that I could see with a top shelf off road package.

    ROFLMAO -  :rofl:

     

    Ranger Raptor with EcoBoost Powertrain, 

     

    I can see all the Marketing play on this!  :rolleyes:

     

    Yeah, I try not to think about the marketing that would go behind this but that type of truck would be a hot seller nonetheless.

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    Here are the measurements of the Ranger vs. the 2014 and 2015 F-150. (I'm looking at extended and crew cabs).

     

    Height:

    Ranger Extended Cab: 71.3 to 71.5 inches

    2014 F-150 SuperCab 2WD: 75.2 inches

    2014 F-150 SuperCab 4WD: 76.1 inches

    2015 F-150 SuperCab 2WD: 75.5 inches

    2015 F-150 SuperCab 4WD: 77.2 inches

     

    Length:

    Ranger 2WD Extended Cab: 210.7 inches

    Ranger 4WD Extended Cab: 210.7 to 211 inches

    2014 F-150 Supercab: 231.9 inches

    2015 F-150 Supercab: 231.9 inches

     

    Width:

    Ranger 2WD Extended Cab: 72.83 inches

    Ranger 4WD Extended Cab: 76.8 inches

    2014 F-150 SuperCab: 79.2 inches

    2014 F-150 SuperCab: 79.9 inches

     

    Wheelbase:

    Ranger Extended Cab: 126.8

    2014 F-150 SuperCab: 144.5 inches

    2015 F-150 SuperCab: 145 inches

     

    (Ranger Extended Cab beds are about 6 Feet long, F-150 SuperCab beds are 6.5 feet)

     

    Crew Cab:

     

    Height:

    Ranger Double Cab: 71.5 to 72.8 inches

    2014 F-150 SuperCrew 2WD: 75.0 inches

    2014 F-150 SuperCrew 4WD: 76.7 inches

    2015 F-150 SuperCrew 2WD: 75.6 inches

    2015 F-150 SuperCrew 4WD: 77.2 inches

     

    Length:

    Ranger Double Cab: 210.7 to 211 inches

    2014 F-150 SuperCrew: 231.9 inches

    2015 F-150 SuperCrew: 231.9 inches

     

    Width:

    Ranger 2WD Double Cab: 72.83 inches

    Ranger 4WD Double Cab: 76.8 inches

    2014 F-150 SuperCab: 79.2 inches

    2015 F-150 SuperCab: 79.9 inches

     

    Wheelbase:

    Ranger Extended Cab: 126.8

    2014 F-150 CrewCab: 144.5 inches

    2015 F-150 CrewCab: 145 inches

     

    (Ranger Double Cab beds are about 6 Feet long, F-150 SuperCrew beds are 5.5 feet)

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    Raptor is getting a 3.5L EB engine to the tune of 450hp, 10 speeds and lots of torque.  

    Raptor name does not belong on a Ranger.

     

     

    And there is talk on another forum about the fact that Bronco coming back rumor might run down same line, seeing as how MAP is such a large facility.

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    Here are the measurements of the Ranger vs. the 2014 and 2015 F-150. (I'm looking at extended and crew cabs).
     
    Height:
    Ranger Extended Cab: 71.3 to 71.5 inches
    2014 F-150 SuperCab 2WD: 75.2 inches
    2014 F-150 SuperCab 4WD: 76.1 inches
    2015 F-150 SuperCab 2WD: 75.5 inches
    2015 F-150 SuperCab 4WD: 77.2 inches
     
    Length:
    Ranger 2WD Extended Cab: 210.7 inches
    Ranger 4WD Extended Cab: 210.7 to 211 inches
    2014 F-150 Supercab: 231.9 inches
    2015 F-150 Supercab: 231.9 inches
     
    Width:
    Ranger 2WD Extended Cab: 72.83 inches
    Ranger 4WD Extended Cab: 76.8 inches
    2014 F-150 SuperCab: 79.2 inches
    2014 F-150 SuperCab: 79.9 inches
     
    Wheelbase:
    Ranger Extended Cab: 126.8
    2014 F-150 SuperCab: 144.5 inches
    2015 F-150 SuperCab: 145 inches
     
    (Ranger Extended Cab beds are about 6 Feet long, F-150 SuperCab beds are 6.5 feet)
     
    Crew Cab:
     
    Height:
    Ranger Double Cab: 71.5 to 72.8 inches
    2014 F-150 SuperCrew 2WD: 75.0 inches
    2014 F-150 SuperCrew 4WD: 76.7 inches
    2015 F-150 SuperCrew 2WD: 75.6 inches
    2015 F-150 SuperCrew 4WD: 77.2 inches
     
    Length:
    Ranger Double Cab: 210.7 to 211 inches
    2014 F-150 SuperCrew: 231.9 inches
    2015 F-150 SuperCrew: 231.9 inches
     
    Width:
    Ranger 2WD Double Cab: 72.83 inches
    Ranger 4WD Double Cab: 76.8 inches
    2014 F-150 SuperCab: 79.2 inches
    2015 F-150 SuperCab: 79.9 inches
     
    Wheelbase:
    Ranger Extended Cab: 126.8
    2014 F-150 CrewCab: 144.5 inches
    2015 F-150 CrewCab: 145 inches
     
    (Ranger Double Cab beds are about 6 Feet long, F-150 SuperCrew beds are 5.5 feet)

     

    Thank You! Great work, first of all!

     

    It definitely is smaller in ever way.. I just don't know if that is enough to justify bringing it here though. I know everybody always wants bigger bigger bigger but I think if they could make it the size of the old one(fairly small) and get 30mpg out of it they could have a winner. It would be considerably smaller, still economical enough for somebody to justify buying a truck but not the expensive(both cost and fuel economy, etc) of the big guys.

     Not to hassel you but how much smaller is te Canyon/Colorado than their larger siblings, too?

    Here's the kicker, does the global Ranger weigh any less than the aluminum F150?

    FANTASTIC question. And honestly.. if the current F150 can weigh as little as 3950lbs in 2wd, single cab, n/a v6 form..and this hypothetical Ranger we speak of isn't aluminum..then it won't weigh less than the F150. Unless it is as small as I said/suggested in ^ post.

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    Raptor is getting a 3.5L EB engine to the tune of 450hp, 10 speeds and lots of torque.  

    Raptor name does not belong on a Ranger.

     

     

    And there is talk on another forum about the fact that Bronco coming back rumor might run down same line, seeing as how MAP is such a large facility.

    Never, not once, said that it needed the "Raptor" name. I just said "Raptor like". It is something else when you can't even give a compliment without a Ford employee getting it all twisted. 

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    GM seems to be enjoying a healthy resurgence in small trucks here, so, it would be a smart move.

    Following the leader.

    Imagine that.

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    Here's the kicker, does the global Ranger weigh any less than the aluminum F150?

    An Aluminum small ranger would CERTAINLY weigh less and do well too.

    And if a unicorn ran the Kentucky Derby I'd bet on it to show-but at this point neither scenario is especially relevant.

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    GM seems to be enjoying a healthy resurgence in small trucks here, so, it would be a smart move.

    Following the leader.

    Imagine that.

    Yup. GM and maybe Ford, are following Toyota.
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    Raptor is getting a 3.5L EB engine to the tune of 450hp, 10 speeds and lots of torque.  

    Raptor name does not belong on a Ranger.

     

     

    And there is talk on another forum about the fact that Bronco coming back rumor might run down same line, seeing as how MAP is such a large facility.

    Never, not once, said that it needed the "Raptor" name. I just said "Raptor like". It is something else when you can't even give a compliment without a Ford employee getting it all twisted. 

     

     

     

    Raptor is getting a 3.5L EB engine to the tune of 450hp, 10 speeds and lots of torque.  

    Raptor name does not belong on a Ranger.

     

     

    And there is talk on another forum about the fact that Bronco coming back rumor might run down same line, seeing as how MAP is such a large facility.

    Never, not once, said that it needed the "Raptor" name. I just said "Raptor like". It is something else when you can't even give a compliment without a Ford employee getting it all twisted. 

     

    Never, not once, did I say you did.

     

    Just made a general statement.

     

    Thanks

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    Here's the kicker, does the global Ranger weigh any less than the aluminum F150?

    An Aluminum small ranger would CERTAINLY weigh less and do well too.

    And if a unicorn ran the Kentucky Derby I'd bet on it to show-but at this point neither scenario is especially relevant.

     

     

     

    Assuming the rumor is true about the Ranger in the first place, one could easily make the aluminum assumption, especially considering the proximity of the plant to the suppliers involved with current aluminum trucks.

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      Ford’s new cylinder deactivation technology – first announced for the 1.0-litre EcoBoost engine and a world first for a three-cylinder engine – will further improve fuel efficiency for Fiesta ST customers without affecting performance by automatically stopping fuel delivery and valve operation for one of the engine’s cylinders in conditions where full capacity is not needed, such as when coasting or cruising with light demand on the engine. The technology can disengage or re-engage one cylinder in 14 milliseconds – 20 times faster than the blink of an eye – to seamlessly deliver full performance on demand.
      The all-aluminium engine also features an integrated exhaust manifold thatimproves efficiency by helping the engine reach optimal temperatures faster, and delivers torque more rapidly by minimising the distance exhaust gasses travel between cylinders and turbocharger. Gas particulate filter technology that reduces soot emissions will also feature.
      New Drive Modes
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      In Normal mode, engine mapping, traction control, electronic stability control (ESC), ESE, exhaust sound and electronic power assisted steering (EPAS) are configured to deliver natural responsiveness and a connected feel In Sport mode, engine mapping and throttle pedal response are sharpened, and EPAS settings adjusted to deliver more feedback and finer control for fast road driving. The active noise control valve opens and ESE is adjusted to intensify the sporty exhaust note and engine noise within the cabin In Track mode, all vehicle dynamics features are tuned for the fastest possible lap times, traction control is disabled and ESC interventions are set to wide-slip mode for hard circuit driving  The agile and responsive Ford Performance-tuned chassis will be supported by enhanced Torque Vectoring Control technology that improves road holding and reduces understeer by applying brake force to the inside front wheel when cornering. Three-mode ESC will enable drivers to choose between full system intervention; wide-slip mode with limited intervention; and full system de-activation.
      Greater personalisation
      The next generation Fiesta ST will offer more personalisation options than ever before. Customers will be able to choose from a range of trim elements for the gear lever, steering wheel, door pulls and decorative dashboard spear, and select from distinctive styling packs.
      The ergonomic Fiesta ST interior will feature supportive Recaro seats and a flat-bottomed steering wheel. Exterior colour options will include new Liquid Blue and the Fiesta ST will feature exclusive 18in alloy wheels.
      “Our ST models are designed to make a Ford Performance driving experience accessible to customers regardless of lifestyle,” said Matthias Tonn, Fiesta ST chief programme engineer. “With three- and five-door bodystyles and distinctive styling options that complement the model’s performance characteristics available from day-one, the next generation Fiesta ST will deliver a broader appeal for an even wider range of car-buyers.”
      Ford’s SYNC 3 communications and entertainment system will enable Fiesta ST drivers to control audio, navigation and connected smartphones using simple, conversational voice commands. Compatible with Apple CarPlay and Android Auto™, SYNC 3 is supported by floating, tablet-inspired touchscreens up to eight inches in size that can be operated using pinch and swipe gestures.
      The next generation Fiesta ST also will be offered with a high quality B&O PLAY Sound System for a high-end audio experience – among features Ford first announced last year for the next generation Fiesta.
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      Source: Wheels

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    • By William Maley
      With the clock winding down on production of the Holden Commodore, Chevrolet dealers are snapping the remaining lot of SS models being exported to the U.S. Wheels has learned from Chevrolet that the extra 1,000 SS models Holden was planning to build for the U.S. market have been snapped up.
      “All US dealer orders are in for the allocated production of the 2017 Chevrolet SS. This includes any additional units that were confirmed for production last year,” said Chevrolet.
      Originally, Holden was planning on building 2,000 SS for the U.S. However, the large demand by dealers for the last SS models caused Holden to add an additional 1,000 models for export.
      Source: Wheels
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      Source: Ford Europe's Instagram
       

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