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    Rumorpile: Ford and UAW Talking About Building The Ranger In U.S. , Restarting Sales


    • The Ranger is coming back?!

    Ever since Ford ended production of the Ranger in the U.S. in 2011, many have been clamoring for the blue oval to bring the Ranger sold elsewhere to the U.S. But Ford has said no since the current Ranger since the new model is close in size to the F-150, and would be very close in terms of pricing. But the blue oval could be changing that.

     

    The Detroit News has learned from sources that Ford wants to resurrect the Ranger pickup and build it at the Michigan Assembly Plant. Sources explained that Ford and the UAW are currently in contract talks, with one of the items being bringing the Ranger to the U.S. for the production. Now this will need to be agreed by the UAW and then Ford’s board of directors.

     

    Now bringing the Ranger over to the U.S. would allow Ford to take advantage of a marketplace that seems interested in mid-size trucks again - thank the Chevrolet Colorado and GMC Colorado.

     

    “There’s a real hunger for midsize trucks right now. Once upon a time, there were a lot of midsize trucks in this market. The ones that are available are cashing in on the demand,” said Karl Brauer, senior analyst for Kelley Blue Book.

     

    Bringing the Ranger to the U.S. would also solve the problem of what would be built at the Michigan Assembly plant. As we reported last month, Ford will be moving Focus and C-Max production from Michigan Assembly to a new plant, most likely Mexico.

     

    Source: The Detroit News

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    If they did that does that mean all new and not the global ranger?  They made it sound like the global Ranger won't work because it is too close to F150 in size..so does that mean we would be talking about something all new for us?

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    Obviously, it would be timed with an all new truck, be it global or US too. So I would expect anything at this point.

     

    So we have it on good rumor that Ford is bringing more Diesels to the US and now, possibly, Ranger too.

     

    Hey, being a fast-follower, instead of an trail blazer, at times, has it's advantages with of course, very few of the downsides. Can't wait to see what Ford does with all this.

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    If they did that does that mean all new and not the global ranger?  They made it sound like the global Ranger won't work because it is too close to F150 in size..so does that mean we would be talking about something all new for us?

     

    We don't know. Everyone seems to think it's going to be global Ranger because its ready to go. But as you pointed out, the Ranger is very close in size to the F-150 (older one). I don't know if this holds any water with the new one though.

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    GM seems to be enjoying a healthy resurgence in small trucks here, so, it would be a smart move.

    Would be Great if FORD did bring back a Compact Ranger for the market. while the Mid Size trucks have taken off, I believe this is more to do with it being the smallest truck available right now. I think there is plenty of Inner City ad Suburban home owners that would love to have a compact truck to use in running to Home Depot or Lowe's.

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    GM seems to be enjoying a healthy resurgence in small trucks here, so, it would be a smart move.

    Would be Great if FORD did bring back a Compact Ranger for the market. while the Mid Size trucks have taken off, I believe this is more to do with it being the smallest truck available right now. I think there is plenty of Inner City ad Suburban home owners that would love to have a compact truck to use in running to Home Depot or Lowe's.

     

    I don't know the dimensions of the global Ranger but is it smaller than the Canynado..?

     

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    So the Global Ranger based on what I have been able to find appears to be a bit bigger than the Canyon / Colorado and the pictures in this story show is it not much smaller than a RAM. So I would think FORD would need to do a TRUE mid size or compact size truck.

     

    http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2013/03/global-ranger-could-be-right-size-for-us.html

     

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    Here is the AU web site that covers the Rangers 3 models you can choose from.

    http://www.ford.com.au/commercial/ranger

     

    http://www.ford.com.au/commercial/ranger/models#step=1

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    GM seems to be enjoying a healthy resurgence in small trucks here, so, it would be a smart move.

    Would be Great if FORD did bring back a Compact Ranger for the market. while the Mid Size trucks have taken off, I believe this is more to do with it being the smallest truck available right now. I think there is plenty of Inner City ad Suburban home owners that would love to have a compact truck to use in running to Home Depot or Lowe's.

     

    I don't know the dimensions of the global Ranger but is it smaller than the Canynado..?

     

    Give me some time, and I'll be able to have answer for that.

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    ^ Awesome.

     

    Also, I guess, the Colorado/Canyon as well compared to their larer siblings.Because I was on a lot looking for one when they first came out and I literally walked right past a pair from the back side. They have to be 9/10ths Sierra/Silverado..

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    Employees at MAP, were notified recently that the Focus will no longer be built there, even after installing all their latest flexible tooling lines.  Kind of makes sens then, that Ford would want to make their smaller truck there, and right down the road from the large truck plant.  

    So I think this is a pretty solid rumor.

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    Slap a 2.7L V6 in an offroad version (Raptor like, if you will) of the Ranger, and they will sell like hot cakes. The current global Ranger is a sharp looking truck that I could see with a top shelf off road package.

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    Slap a 2.7L V6 in an offroad version (Raptor like, if you will) of the Ranger, and they will sell like hot cakes. The current global Ranger is a sharp looking truck that I could see with a top shelf off road package.

    ROFLMAO -  :rofl:

     

    Ranger Raptor with EcoBoost Powertrain, 

     

    I can see all the Marketing play on this!  :rolleyes:

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    Slap a 2.7L V6 in an offroad version (Raptor like, if you will) of the Ranger, and they will sell like hot cakes. The current global Ranger is a sharp looking truck that I could see with a top shelf off road package.

    ROFLMAO -  :rofl:

     

    Ranger Raptor with EcoBoost Powertrain, 

     

    I can see all the Marketing play on this!  :rolleyes:

     

    Yeah, I try not to think about the marketing that would go behind this but that type of truck would be a hot seller nonetheless.

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    Here are the measurements of the Ranger vs. the 2014 and 2015 F-150. (I'm looking at extended and crew cabs).

     

    Height:

    Ranger Extended Cab: 71.3 to 71.5 inches

    2014 F-150 SuperCab 2WD: 75.2 inches

    2014 F-150 SuperCab 4WD: 76.1 inches

    2015 F-150 SuperCab 2WD: 75.5 inches

    2015 F-150 SuperCab 4WD: 77.2 inches

     

    Length:

    Ranger 2WD Extended Cab: 210.7 inches

    Ranger 4WD Extended Cab: 210.7 to 211 inches

    2014 F-150 Supercab: 231.9 inches

    2015 F-150 Supercab: 231.9 inches

     

    Width:

    Ranger 2WD Extended Cab: 72.83 inches

    Ranger 4WD Extended Cab: 76.8 inches

    2014 F-150 SuperCab: 79.2 inches

    2014 F-150 SuperCab: 79.9 inches

     

    Wheelbase:

    Ranger Extended Cab: 126.8

    2014 F-150 SuperCab: 144.5 inches

    2015 F-150 SuperCab: 145 inches

     

    (Ranger Extended Cab beds are about 6 Feet long, F-150 SuperCab beds are 6.5 feet)

     

    Crew Cab:

     

    Height:

    Ranger Double Cab: 71.5 to 72.8 inches

    2014 F-150 SuperCrew 2WD: 75.0 inches

    2014 F-150 SuperCrew 4WD: 76.7 inches

    2015 F-150 SuperCrew 2WD: 75.6 inches

    2015 F-150 SuperCrew 4WD: 77.2 inches

     

    Length:

    Ranger Double Cab: 210.7 to 211 inches

    2014 F-150 SuperCrew: 231.9 inches

    2015 F-150 SuperCrew: 231.9 inches

     

    Width:

    Ranger 2WD Double Cab: 72.83 inches

    Ranger 4WD Double Cab: 76.8 inches

    2014 F-150 SuperCab: 79.2 inches

    2015 F-150 SuperCab: 79.9 inches

     

    Wheelbase:

    Ranger Extended Cab: 126.8

    2014 F-150 CrewCab: 144.5 inches

    2015 F-150 CrewCab: 145 inches

     

    (Ranger Double Cab beds are about 6 Feet long, F-150 SuperCrew beds are 5.5 feet)

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    Raptor is getting a 3.5L EB engine to the tune of 450hp, 10 speeds and lots of torque.  

    Raptor name does not belong on a Ranger.

     

     

    And there is talk on another forum about the fact that Bronco coming back rumor might run down same line, seeing as how MAP is such a large facility.

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    Here's the kicker, does the global Ranger weigh any less than the aluminum F150?

     

    An Aluminum small ranger would CERTAINLY weigh less and do well too.

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    Here are the measurements of the Ranger vs. the 2014 and 2015 F-150. (I'm looking at extended and crew cabs).
     
    Height:
    Ranger Extended Cab: 71.3 to 71.5 inches
    2014 F-150 SuperCab 2WD: 75.2 inches
    2014 F-150 SuperCab 4WD: 76.1 inches
    2015 F-150 SuperCab 2WD: 75.5 inches
    2015 F-150 SuperCab 4WD: 77.2 inches
     
    Length:
    Ranger 2WD Extended Cab: 210.7 inches
    Ranger 4WD Extended Cab: 210.7 to 211 inches
    2014 F-150 Supercab: 231.9 inches
    2015 F-150 Supercab: 231.9 inches
     
    Width:
    Ranger 2WD Extended Cab: 72.83 inches
    Ranger 4WD Extended Cab: 76.8 inches
    2014 F-150 SuperCab: 79.2 inches
    2014 F-150 SuperCab: 79.9 inches
     
    Wheelbase:
    Ranger Extended Cab: 126.8
    2014 F-150 SuperCab: 144.5 inches
    2015 F-150 SuperCab: 145 inches
     
    (Ranger Extended Cab beds are about 6 Feet long, F-150 SuperCab beds are 6.5 feet)
     
    Crew Cab:
     
    Height:
    Ranger Double Cab: 71.5 to 72.8 inches
    2014 F-150 SuperCrew 2WD: 75.0 inches
    2014 F-150 SuperCrew 4WD: 76.7 inches
    2015 F-150 SuperCrew 2WD: 75.6 inches
    2015 F-150 SuperCrew 4WD: 77.2 inches
     
    Length:
    Ranger Double Cab: 210.7 to 211 inches
    2014 F-150 SuperCrew: 231.9 inches
    2015 F-150 SuperCrew: 231.9 inches
     
    Width:
    Ranger 2WD Double Cab: 72.83 inches
    Ranger 4WD Double Cab: 76.8 inches
    2014 F-150 SuperCab: 79.2 inches
    2015 F-150 SuperCab: 79.9 inches
     
    Wheelbase:
    Ranger Extended Cab: 126.8
    2014 F-150 CrewCab: 144.5 inches
    2015 F-150 CrewCab: 145 inches
     
    (Ranger Double Cab beds are about 6 Feet long, F-150 SuperCrew beds are 5.5 feet)

     

    Thank You! Great work, first of all!

     

    It definitely is smaller in ever way.. I just don't know if that is enough to justify bringing it here though. I know everybody always wants bigger bigger bigger but I think if they could make it the size of the old one(fairly small) and get 30mpg out of it they could have a winner. It would be considerably smaller, still economical enough for somebody to justify buying a truck but not the expensive(both cost and fuel economy, etc) of the big guys.

     Not to hassel you but how much smaller is te Canyon/Colorado than their larger siblings, too?

    Here's the kicker, does the global Ranger weigh any less than the aluminum F150?

    FANTASTIC question. And honestly.. if the current F150 can weigh as little as 3950lbs in 2wd, single cab, n/a v6 form..and this hypothetical Ranger we speak of isn't aluminum..then it won't weigh less than the F150. Unless it is as small as I said/suggested in ^ post.

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    Raptor is getting a 3.5L EB engine to the tune of 450hp, 10 speeds and lots of torque.  

    Raptor name does not belong on a Ranger.

     

     

    And there is talk on another forum about the fact that Bronco coming back rumor might run down same line, seeing as how MAP is such a large facility.

    Never, not once, said that it needed the "Raptor" name. I just said "Raptor like". It is something else when you can't even give a compliment without a Ford employee getting it all twisted. 

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    GM seems to be enjoying a healthy resurgence in small trucks here, so, it would be a smart move.

    Following the leader.

    Imagine that.

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    Here's the kicker, does the global Ranger weigh any less than the aluminum F150?

    An Aluminum small ranger would CERTAINLY weigh less and do well too.

    And if a unicorn ran the Kentucky Derby I'd bet on it to show-but at this point neither scenario is especially relevant.

    Edited by El Kabong
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    GM seems to be enjoying a healthy resurgence in small trucks here, so, it would be a smart move.

    Following the leader.

    Imagine that.

    Yup. GM and maybe Ford, are following Toyota.
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    Raptor is getting a 3.5L EB engine to the tune of 450hp, 10 speeds and lots of torque.  

    Raptor name does not belong on a Ranger.

     

     

    And there is talk on another forum about the fact that Bronco coming back rumor might run down same line, seeing as how MAP is such a large facility.

    Never, not once, said that it needed the "Raptor" name. I just said "Raptor like". It is something else when you can't even give a compliment without a Ford employee getting it all twisted. 

     

     

     

    Raptor is getting a 3.5L EB engine to the tune of 450hp, 10 speeds and lots of torque.  

    Raptor name does not belong on a Ranger.

     

     

    And there is talk on another forum about the fact that Bronco coming back rumor might run down same line, seeing as how MAP is such a large facility.

    Never, not once, said that it needed the "Raptor" name. I just said "Raptor like". It is something else when you can't even give a compliment without a Ford employee getting it all twisted. 

     

    Never, not once, did I say you did.

     

    Just made a general statement.

     

    Thanks

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    Here's the kicker, does the global Ranger weigh any less than the aluminum F150?

    An Aluminum small ranger would CERTAINLY weigh less and do well too.

    And if a unicorn ran the Kentucky Derby I'd bet on it to show-but at this point neither scenario is especially relevant.

     

     

     

    Assuming the rumor is true about the Ranger in the first place, one could easily make the aluminum assumption, especially considering the proximity of the plant to the suppliers involved with current aluminum trucks.

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      Fiat - Down 15% (2,415 Vehicles Sold This Month, 30,136 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Ford - Up 4.5% (187,012 Vehicles Sold This Month, 2,262,493 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Genesis - N/A (1,306 Vehicles Sold This Month, 5,215 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      GMC - Up 14.1% (49,113 Vehicles Sold This Month, 483,213 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Honda - Up 7.9% (111,308 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,333,253 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Hyundai - Up 2% (61,201 Vehicles Sold This Month, 707,485 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Infiniti - Up 3.6% (12,112 Vehicles Sold This Month, 120,095 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Jaguar - 
      Jeep - Down 12% (67,285 Vehicles Sold This Month, 843,217 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Kia - Up 15.3% (52,504 Vehicles Sold This Month, 593,245 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Land Rover - 
      Lexus - Down 1% (29,050 Vehicles Sold This Month, 290,046 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Lincoln - Up 19.1% (9,429 Vehicles Sold This Month, 98,933 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Maserati - Up 27.3% (1,380 Vehicles Sold This Month, 10.838 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Mazda - Down 3% (22,041 Vehicles Sold This Month, 269,019 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Mercedes-Benz - Up 1.1% (30,363 Vehicles Sold This Month, 308,226 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Mercedes-Benz Vans - Down 7.4% (2,564 Vehicles Sold This Month, 30,444 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      MINI - Up 1.4% (4,507 Vehicles Sold This Month, 47,372 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Mitsubishi - Up 1.8% (6,896 Vehicles Sold This Month, 88,884 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Nissan - Up 8% (103,024 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,291,585 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Porsche - Up 23.9% (5,513 Vehicles Sold This Month, 50,265 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Ram Trucks - Up 12% (42,511 Vehicles Sold This Month, 492,254 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      smart - Down 15% (563 Vehicles Sold This Month, 5,025 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Subaru - Up 11.4% (51,308 Vehicles Sold This Month, 551,955 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Toyota - Up 5.3% (168,595 Vehicles Sold This Month, 1,916,313 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Volkswagen - Up 24.24% (29,672 Vehicles Sold This Month, 285,719 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
      Volvo - Up 11.9% (7,723 Vehicles Sold This Month, 72,595 Vehicles Sold So Far This Year)
    • By William Maley
      FORD TOTAL U.S. SALES UP 5 PERCENT IN NOVEMBER, RETAIL UP 10 PERCENT; F-SERIES, SUVS AND LINCOLN VEHICLES DRIVE GAINS
      Ford Motor Company’s U.S. sales for November  total 197,574 vehicles – up 5 percent versus a year ago – with retail sales up 10 percent and fleet sales down 9 percent Ford F-Series has its best November since 2001 on strong F-150 and Super Duty retail demand; total F-Series sales of 72,089 trucks is up 11 percent Ford brand SUV sales increase 20 percent with 60,079 vehicles sold Lincoln sales total 9,429 vehicles for November, representing a 19 percent increase on strong demand for its newest products, including Lincoln Continental, MKX and MKZ DEARBORN, Mich., Dec. 1, 2016 – Ford Motor Company’s overall sales totaled 197,574 vehicles in November – a 5 percent increase versus last year – driven by a 10 percent retail sales gain with 154,114 vehicles sold.
      Fleet sales of 43,460 vehicles, including daily rental, commercial and government segments, declined 9 percent. This reflects the company’s plan to front-load fleet sales this year.
      F-Series sales increased 11 percent, totaling 72,089 trucks, the truck line’s best November sales since 2001. F-Series retail sales were up 14 percent.  
      “Strong retail sales increases for both F-150 and our all-new Super Duty pickups drove F-Series above the 70,000 vehicle mark – a November threshold we have not seen in 15 years,” said Mark LaNeve, vice president, U.S. Marketing, Sales and Service. “Plus, strong consumer demand for well-equipped Super Dutys helped boost Ford’s overall average transaction prices in November, which are up $1,000 versus a year ago – well ahead of the industry average of $320.”
      Ford brand SUV sales totaled 60,079 vehicles for November – a 20 percent increase. Escape was up 11 percent; Explorer grew 14 percent, Edge climbed 32 percent and Expedition gained 75 percent.  
      Lincoln sales increased 19 percent, with sales totaling 9,429 vehicles. Retail sales were up 20 percent. Lincoln MKZ was up 9 percent, while Lincoln MKX was up 30 percent. Lincoln’s all-new Continental had its best sales month since launch – with 1,419 cars sold. 

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