Interesting...mixed signals, definitely...the Troller is a small Wrangler-like 2dr, while the current Ranger-based SUV is the midsize Everest/Endeavor...I thought the Bronco was going to be an Everest with a Murican F150 style nose...

Sounds like Ford is even having challanges in trying to define what the Bronco will look like and how it will compete. At least they are using a decent off road standard. Wrangler like no other!  Course a Rubicon Wrangler Rocks!

I think of the Bronco more of a full size SUV, clearly they have the Expedition and the Explorer is a 3 row, but I see it as more rugged and off road to an Explorer.  And not as large as an Expedition.  I wouldn't compare it to a Wrangler.   

Engine will be potent if they keep this thing under 4900 lbs.

1 hour ago, smk4565 said:

I think of the Bronco more of a full size SUV, clearly they have the Expedition and the Explorer is a 3 row, but I see it as more rugged and off road to an Explorer.  And not as large as an Expedition.  I wouldn't compare it to a Wrangler.   

Engine will be potent if they keep this thing under 4900 lbs.

That is the wrong comparison as the Bronco has always been a mid-size to small SUV. Bronco is in the same category as the wrangler. Plenty of Ford Bronco / Jeep Wrangler comparisons.

Yes Ford did do a full size Bronco that OJ drove, but that was a fluke much like the full size Durango, the bulk were mid to small suv size.

18 minutes ago, dfelt said:

That is the wrong comparison as the Bronco has always been a mid-size to small SUV. Bronco is in the same category as the wrangler. Plenty of Ford Bronco / Jeep Wrangler comparisons.

Yes Ford did do a full size Bronco that OJ drove, but that was a fluke much like the full size Durango, the bulk were mid to small suv size.

Actually, the Bronco was a full size longer than it was a compact...the compact was only around from '66-77,  the full size was around '78-96.    The Bronco most of it's life was a full size Blazer competitor.  

The unrelated Bronco II, on the other hand, was a compact.

13 minutes ago, Cubical-aka-Moltar said:

Actually, the Bronco was a full size longer than it was a compact...the compact was only around from '66-77,  the full size was around '78-96.    The Bronco most of it's life was a full size Blazer competitor.  

The unrelated Bronco II, on the other hand, was a compact.

WOW, for some reason I never saw the Bronco as a full size other than OJ's version. All the Bronco's I ever saw was the mid to small size. Thanks for the correction Cubical.

Very cool info from Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Bronco

Interesting that I always saw a ton of Original Bronco's and Bronco II's in Washington but not too many Full size Bronco's which would explain me thinking it was a upsize between the original and the II. Have to say the Centurion Bronco is interesting.

8 minutes ago, dfelt said:

WOW, for some reason I never saw the Bronco as a full size other than OJ's version. All the Bronco's I ever saw was the mid to small size. Thanks for the correction Cubical.

Very cool info from Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Bronco

Interesting that I always saw a ton of Original Bronco's and Bronco II's in Washington but not too many Full size Bronco's which would explain me thinking it was a upsize between the original and the II. Have to say the Centurion Bronco is interesting.

Funny thing is I've seen quite a few first gen Broncos in AZ in the last 10 years--restored and original, very few later ones..but when I lived in Florida and Ohio then Michigan in the 80s-90s I saw loads of the full sizers and Bronco IIs, none of the early ones--rust got them...haven't seen a Bronco II in years, enjoyed the '88 I had..

1 hour ago, dfelt said:

WOW, for some reason I never saw the Bronco as a full size other than OJ's version. All the Bronco's I ever saw was the mid to small size. Thanks for the correction Cubical.

Very cool info from Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Bronco

Interesting that I always saw a ton of Original Bronco's and Bronco II's in Washington but not too many Full size Bronco's which would explain me thinking it was a upsize between the original and the II. Have to say the Centurion Bronco is interesting.

I owned an original Bronco but it was the rolling definition of Ohio rust bucket.

3 hours ago, dfelt said:

Sounds like Ford is even having challanges in trying to define what the Bronco will look like and how it will compete. At least they are using a decent off road standard. Wrangler like no other!  Course a Rubicon Wrangler Rocks!

Wrangler would be my choice of the two.

They want to make it interesting it seems....

Granted, it's tough to benchmark the jeep when Ford's version can't rock climb....

Interesting...mixed signals, definitely...the Troller is a small Wrangler-like 2dr, while the current Ranger-based SUV is the midsize Everest/Endeavor...I thought the Bronco was going to be an Everest with a Murican F150 style nose...

It sounds like the strategy is going to be the Bronco is to the Explorer like a 4Runner is relative to the Highlander...i.e. midsize off-road capable SUV alongside a family hauler midsize CUV.   Ford has already a huge line of CUVs and SUVs, but they are soft roaders/family haulers, this will add something different and distinctive to their line..

14 hours ago, dfelt said:

That is the wrong comparison as the Bronco has always been a mid-size to small SUV. Bronco is in the same category as the wrangler. Plenty of Ford Bronco / Jeep Wrangler comparisons.

Yes Ford did do a full size Bronco that OJ drove, but that was a fluke much like the full size Durango, the bulk were mid to small suv size.

The last Bronco was technically full size like the Chevy K5 Blazers. The Bronco II was much smaller. (Sorry, just saw that Balth already covere that base).