2014 Volkswagen Jetta To Drop 2.5 For 1.8T

So I hope they have worked out all the quality bugs so it is dependable. Only engines that seem to last in the VW auto's are the Diesels.

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My '00 GTI 1.8t pulled like a little freight train when the torque came on. 185 pounds of torque in the new engine is an excellent number for an entry-level model.

According to my buddies in the VW Diesel club, they have the issues with this worked out.

Which they need to...the 2.5 has been holding back vee dub for years....

of course the 1.8 has a bit of a heritage from a number standpoint. should go a long way towards making VW stronger, as long as the car is not in the shop all the time like lots of VW's can be.

it interesting to see how much VW is skimping in some ways, maybe not significant, but look at how thin and flimsy the letters are that they glue on the trunk lids these days.....not very substantial....

I like that manufacturers are starting to focus on low end torque for their smaller engines. To put it in perspective, that 1.8t has more torque than the DI 2.4 Ecotec from GM and I'm willing to bet that the torque comes on much sooner as well.

Which would make it much more fun to drive, methinks.

Which would make it much more fun to drive, methinks.

Yes with Torque, at least around town you can get off the line much better than just a fuel sipper with no torque. It can be fun in the 0 to 40mph zone.

Personally, as far as small cars go, I'd prefer an Ariel Atom V8....lots of fun 0-140, not just 0-40.

torque band should be calibrated for both, low rpm 75 mph cruise (good highway mpg) and plenty of torque and horsepower for good acceleration without having to lean on it a lot.

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torque band should be calibrated for both, low rpm 75 mph cruise (good highway mpg) and plenty of torque and horsepower for good acceleration without having to lean on it a lot.

That has nothing to do with the torque band and everything to do with the transmission ratios.

I like that manufacturers are starting to focus on low end torque for their smaller engines. To put it in perspective, that 1.8t has more torque than the DI 2.4 Ecotec from GM and I'm willing to bet that the torque comes on much sooner as well.

Agreed. I think the torque will hit low and be very usable. 158 hp is 12 less than the current car though, would have been nice if this new engine was more like 170 hp and 185 lb-ft.

I don't think people will notice it but...yeah a few extra HP would be really nice.

I like that manufacturers are starting to focus on low end torque for their smaller engines. To put it in perspective, that 1.8t has more torque than the DI 2.4 Ecotec from GM and I'm willing to bet that the torque comes on much sooner as well.

Agreed. I think the torque will hit low and be very usable. 158 hp is 12 less than the current car though, would have been nice if this new engine was more like 170 hp and 185 lb-ft.

They won't even notice the HP loss if the torque comes on strong enough down low. In fact, it might even end up feeling faster.

I like that manufacturers are starting to focus on low end torque for their smaller engines. To put it in perspective, that 1.8t has more torque than the DI 2.4 Ecotec from GM and I'm willing to bet that the torque comes on much sooner as well.

Agreed. I think the torque will hit low and be very usable. 158 hp is 12 less than the current car though, would have been nice if this new engine was more like 170 hp and 185 lb-ft.

They won't even notice the HP loss if the torque comes on strong enough down low. In fact, it might even end up feeling faster.

True, it may feel quicker as torque affects acceleration. This engine is probably better than the 2.5 that has been around a while. But 170 hp and 185 lb-ft would be better than 158 hp and 185 lb-ft was my point as plus the marketing types like horsepower figures.

I'd expect a mild bump in hp after its out a bit...

but this is a bit of a rabbit trail, pun not intended.

This will realty help vee dub move cars, I think. If nothing else the better fuel economy will help in an era or $4 a gallon gasoline..