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You going to hand-shovel a ton & a half of wet stone into the back of a Suburban, trying to tarp the carpeted bottom & plastic sides of the interior to keep it from getting torn apart? Really? Re-read my post- people don't put LOOSE material of any considerable volume in a vehicle like a Suburban. Is it physically possible? Sure - but does it happen? But a lawn mower or a potted shrub or a few bags of mulch- a roofed SUV could handle as well as a 4-ft bed trucklette. The overlap in cargo capability of a 4-ft bed and a mid-size SUV is a LOT more than between a Suburban and a full-size pickup.

mid-'80s : I can remember one of these in my favorite junkyard haunt, esp that peaked center section of the decklid. It was a '67 Fury 4-dr, very dark blue, and someone had painted (very well) 'BUILT TO' and 'BOOGIE' in the large flats to either side of that peaked center. It was at the end of one of the 2 rows the arrows point to, nose facing 'south'. Now ask me what I had for dinner last night.

That...could be a good thing. Imagine the lawsuits today with somebody getting impaled by those things...(or faking to be impaled) Ambulance chasin' and frivoulous lawsuits have come a looooong way since the good 'ole rock-n-roll, milk shake days when these things were all the rage.

Just watched 'Lethal Weapon 2', haven't seen it in ages---more Oldsmobiles, and the great scene w/ Mel Gibson in a GMC 3500 extended cab dually pulling down a stilt house...

I've never been into sedans beyond midsize and large luxury and performance sedans, but I really miss 2dr coupes..so few on the market....

Watched the original ‘Lethal Weapon’ today, hadn’t seen it in maybe 25 years. Good 80s buddy cop flick, lots of 70s-80s cars—several Olds 88s-98s.

That's a really odd specific memory from long ago...but I totally get it. I can remember details of cars and the places I saw them long ago. Or TV car ads I've seen long ago. Like I still remember seeing an unrestored dark green '68 Shelby GT500 KR convertible at a car show at Tappan Lake, Ohio in the mid 80s...I was maybe 14-15 at the time. It had PA plates and I was with my folks and brother, chatted w/ the older woman that owned it. That same day was the time my brother had a whole bottle of mustard explode on him while eating a hamburger at the diner where the car show was held... The mind works in odd ways---connecting seemingly random things together. A bit or randomness yesterday...was talking w/ my sister about various basketball players of the past she liked and I liked--we both liked the '80s Lakers w/ Kareem-Abdul Jabbar and Magic Johnson since it was Jabbar's birthday...and that led to me remembering an Audi ad from the 80s--couldn't recall if it was Oscar Robertson or Wilt Chamberlain--a quick google turned up the Audi ad was w/ Oscar Robertson. I remember seeing that on TV in the mid 80s, maybe only once or twice. Weird. I had take out Kung Pao Chicken last night...I do remember that.

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And READ my post. *On one hand you say and SUV like your friends Infiniti is perfectly fine for hauling stuff because all you need is a tarp and a vacuum. *On the other hand you say that this cannot be done with a Suburban for a different set of reasons. If you don't the issue I have here, then perhaps we need to move on from this because we are not going to see eye to eye here if you don't that issue. Again, vehicles like the Hyundai Santa Cruz do have multiple uses for multiple types of people. You just happen to not be one of them but you were never interested to begin with. I, on the other hand, am very interested in it and that bed length is the LEAST of my worries.

For shit like that I'd hire a landscaper, who would haul such content in a dump truck or trailer.

-So we are back to pick ups, not SUVs? I say that because you sure are not hauling 4x8 plywood in most if not any SUV. BTW, with the tail gate down, the Santa Cruz gains two more feet back there, putting it pretty close to a short bed full size pick up. From an article regarding the tailgate. "The bed is also 4 feet wide, designed specifically to be wide enough to carry home sheets of plywood from the big box store. That plywood rests on molded-in ledges above the wheelwells, and the tailgate can be adjusted to a half-open position level with the ledges to support the end of the plywood hanging out the back." Making it pretty damn useful for 95% of the population. -Oh sure. Take the plastic tarp in and out when ever you think you'll need it while still having to vacuum your SUV of the dirt that will still find its way to other parts of said car (to say NOTHING of the smell of said mulch). Now, I throw few hundred pounds in the back of the Santa Fe and all I have to do afterwards is hose it down. Sorry but you can't tout pick ups on one hand and then $h! on them with the other when bringing up SUVs. -And you go right on ahead and lay that fridge down in any SUV and wait 24-48 hours before you can plug in said fridge because of the freon. Me? I prefer to bring it home and plug it right away. Again, you are picking and choosing between full size pick ups and SUVs whenever it suits your argument. To a point, a full size SUV can do 98% of the stuff your HD can do yet we are not on here touting it over the other because the HD suits YOUR needs. See the problem her yet? BTW, don't even have to fold the handles down on the lawn mower or the snow blower to get it in the car or SUV and I don't have to worry about fuel/fluid spillage INSIDE may car or SUV. -And of course its not competing with mid-size pick ups because it is not one itself. Not sure what argument you're trying to make here. One last thing. Two weeks ago, I picked up a used duo grill (gas and charcoal) that was fully put together. As such, it was not going to fit inside my Flex without damaging the inside walls of the car (even with a tarp). Instead, I had to borrow a trailer to haul it. Now, if I had the Hyundai, it would have fit perfectly in the back standing upright, no fuss and no trailer or tarp needed. You have to stop seeing it like there isn't a use for one of these just because you wouldn't have a use for one.

Yard projects: • One shouldn't be trying to transport -say- 4x4-8' timbers in a 4-ft long bed. • If you're getting bagged mulch, it's no problem to stack that in the back of a SUV with a piece of tarp or a blanket down. • Buying 6-8' trees is certainly uncommon, but either : grab a rental truck for $20, call a friend or see if you can lean it out the hatch window. • A boxed lawn mower or snow thrower will fit in just about any SUV. Not seeing much else in the 'yard department' that a 4-ft bed pickup can handle and a SUV can't. Large appliances (fridge, water heater) can be laid down in the back of a SUV. IMO, a 4-ft bed pickup isn't competing with a mid-sized pickup, it's competing (in terms of cargo capacity / usage) with a similar-sized SUV. While some consumer may well prefer a pickup 'just because', it's not as versatile and I don't expect it to upset the segment or become a huge seller.

Similarly, the way Canadians say the words "pasta" and "Mazda" surprised me, given the high number of ethnic types living there and who would pronounce it differently in their native tongues. Back to spotting: Midweek. I have a feeling these stickers are going to be on cars for a long time. It might be parallel to people in the South still thinking they're fighting the Civil War. Probably rides well and has a reliable 4.6L V8. I'm trying to be "glass half full" here.

Been streaming 'City on a Hill' this week, a solid crime drama set in the early 90s in Boston w/ Kevin Bacon. Bacon is very good as a slimy veteran FBI agent. Almost through the first season, the 2nd season is currently streaming on Showtime. Also recently watched a solid 4-part documentary about the unsolved 1990 Gardner Museum art theft, 'This is a Theft' on Netflix.

I like those old plates....too many modern plates are so bland. I like the old white on red Arizona plates,the white on green Colorado plates, and various past California plates. I still have a couple sets of the white on green Colorado plates from the late 90s before they reversed the colors. This '76 Buick looks good w/ the yellow NY plates.

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• IDK... my friend with the Infinity doesn't have to "hose out" or vacuum it whenever he hauls something around. Mulch is bagged at the HomeDepot, not loose- why are people vacuuming up after bagged items? A few pieces drop off, you shake off the blanket (or tip out the cargo liner), fold it up & you're done. It's not a major calamity. Same with the 'spilled fuel' (don't you have an electric snow thrower yet?? ) - how is that readily happening? • Full-size SUV's (say; a Suburban) has the interior length, but there are a number of things I mentioned earlier that it's not well suited for. Loose material is one, dumped material is another, actual dirt (for the 'dirty' aspect), leaking/significantly odiferous material, and anything involving -say- demo'd building materials studded with nails or vastly-irregular pieces - these pose actual damage hazards to the interior, whereas a lined pick-up bed can carry extreme lengths, dirt, garbage, stone, 90 cubic feet of brush/grass clippings, mouse-contaminated goods, propane tanks, etc etc. I would not peg the capability of an enclosed SUV vs. a pickup at anywhere "98% overlap". Maybe 70%. SUVs do offer 2 considerable aspects over pickups: security and weather protection. But this discussion (full-size pickups vs. full-size SUVs) seems to be another discussion. • The whole pitch about leaving the tailgate open is a rubber crutch for a 4-ft bed, no two ways around it. "Ledges", please. If dropping the gate means a 4-ft bed is practically a 6-ft bed, then the 6-ft bed is now practically an 8-ft bed and the 2 no longer compete.