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https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1046235_report-mercedes-benz-sls-amg-was-originally-the-next-viper If you've thought the 2011 Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG looks a lot like the Dodge Viper, you're not alone. And it turns out you may well be even more correct than you thought you were: a new report out today says the SLS AMG was originally the next-gen Dodge Viper, borrowed from Dodge while Daimler still owned Chrysler. The news is both surprising and completely expected all at once. The proportions of the car, the spy shots during development, even the character of the car itself all seem to bear a lot of Viper influence. But to think the $180,000 SLS AMG is based off work done by Dodge's engineers as they envisioned the next Viper? A bit unexpected. Nevertheless, that's precisely what happened, according to Inside Line. According to an unnamed insider, the all-aluminum chassis was already in the prototype stage and an all-new suspension design was in the works when Mercedes decided to put the also-in-development SLS AMG on the same path. And there is soooooooo much to read into here... Chrysler is sooooooo shyte...that Mercedes decided to develop the SLS AFTER the Viper and Mercedes used the Viper as a start. You really have a lot of soul searching to do...

The Daimler-Chrysler' story is an interesting one, primarily colored by the oh-so-typical fudging of numbers on Daimler's part. They're ravenously money-hungry, and will do whatever it takes to make a buck. It's documented how Daimler bled Chrysler dry, and they never "gave" anything to Chrysler, they mandated and then forced Chrysler to pay. It got so petty that Daimler back-charged all international calls to Auburn Hills.

If Chrysler was so unprofitable, why did Daimler buy them?

Same. I have stated in the past (and to my detriment at times) that their EV tech is top notch and they deserve all the credit in the world for giving the industry a swift kick in the balls. However, I am a realist about their situation, which is built on a house of cards if you ask me and it's all because of Elon and his mindset. They do not have a firm grasp on the mass production aspect of their cars, as evidenced by the many reliability issues with them. Furthermore, while some folks like that minimalistic look if their interiors, it all goes south with they realize how cheap the actual materials are in their $100K EV. 0-60 times are all fine and dandy but if you switched just the words "2021 Tesla Model S Plaid" for "2008 Dodge Magnum SRT", all the bragging about 0-60 times goes right out the window when you realize the sheer cheapskate nature of their interiors because that was the simple fact of the matter. It's only the name "Tesla" that blinds some folks to that simple fact. For the record, I sat in two different year Model S cars (2015 and 2018) in Arizona. I stand by my statement about heir interiors.

I dont know if competition will make for better Tesla products as their leader and head CEO, Elon Musk, thinks that he is the smartest guy in the room. He doesnt seem to learn, or more precisely, he doesnt seem to WANT to learn from others. Especially the legacy automakers. Tesla might have (had) a superior EV product, that gap is FAST closing in on Tesla. And I really do mean fast. Faster than what I thought it would be. THAT is the thing, Legacy automakers have some brilliant engineers of their own and Elon thinks that he has cornered the market with engineers... The problem is that these legacy automakers have a century plus of history of engineering state of the art stuff. THEY KNOW how to find and nurture and get the MOST out of THEIR engineers. And legacy automakers, whether in Detroit or Wolfsburg also know a thing or two on how to engineer and mass produce a vehicle and they have THAT down to a tee... something that Tesla and Elon REFUSE to learn how to do... Elon not only has other projects in mind, his obvious choices in how he chooses to use recreational drugs make it apparent that Tesla is losing its edge slowly slowly that Tesla once enjoyed hugely over every other legacy automaker... A product like an Apple computer, or iPod, iPhone doesnt come too often in life. But Steve Jobs seemed to hit lightning in a bottle SEVERAL times in his tenure of Apple. THAT is because Steve Jobs was CLEAR in his mind... Jobs MIGHT have ALSO taken prescription drugs ALONG with recreational ones, but somehow, HIS mind was clear. Musk on the other hand, his mind is clouted with BS. It shows.... He aint THAT phoqued in his head though as how we see his manipulation of the stock market with bitcoin tweets and the like... BUT...all that shyte takes AWAY from his concentration of how he SHOULD ELEVATE Tesla to the NEXT level... He has EFFECTIVELY ALLOWED FoMoCO, GM, VW to be on an EQUAL playing field on EVs when he enjoyed AT LEAST a DECADE of being in front of them JUST 2 short years ago... When the onslaught of EVs come from these legacy automakers in the next year and two, Tesla will NOT be selling THAT many Model Xs and Model 3s... Those Tesla cars are already long in the tooth in 2021 and they arent even THAT old... and there is NO talk about gen2 for these cars... I wont even address the Model S and X... When the 2nd gen of these EVs from VW, FoMoCo and GM come rolling along by the end of the 2020s, Tesla I feel, will be an irrelevant company...as a car manufacturer. (NOT as a powertrain and battery company, but as a manufacturer of vehicles) VW, FoMoCo and GM, ESPECIALLY VW and GM, have ALL THE R&D money they could possibly need WITHOUT the help of smoke and mirrors stock market manipulation of ARTIFICIALLY valuing their companies at 600 mill. In fact, VW, FoMoCo and GM are CRIMINALLY UNDERVALUED that it seems it doesn't MATTER because it seems as FoMoCo, VW AND GM have found a way AROUND that and have the MONEY to equal and BETTER the Tesla tech with their OWN proprietary tech... And I like Tesla... Its a shame that what Elon had, he is pissing it away...

So... do we think competition will destroy Tesla? I think competition will make for better Tesla products. I'm thinking(hoping) that they don't go away(very doubtful) or sold to a legacy automaker(lame - they do unique things that legacy automakers don't allow with their corporate structure). It will certainly be an interesting future with Tesla gaining competitors every month it seems.

A billion times this! He loves pointing out all the cars the Tesla beats 0-60 but never mentions his favorite brand in those statements. It’s why I can never take him seriously. Just leave the damn fanboy Pom Poms in the closet and stick to the facts.

600 bill. it should have been written as. 600 billion.

It was the Italians that gave way for the nice LX interior upgrades. Especially the Dodges. Daimler flubbed on what could have been a phoquing awesome partnership and merger with Chryco. Instead, Daimler was too stuck up in their German ways that questioned what Chrysler cars SHOULD be in the US market, got extremely jealous of the potential of what Chryco engineers could do with the American cars and totally bean counted, sabotaged, misappropriated Chrysler's share on the money and totally phoqued up Chrysler. That ME412 was the last straw... Im willing to bet that Daimler German asshats found it to be insulting for Chrysler to take a Mercedes V12 and engineering a very super supercar around it. Not only that, Chrysler engineers seemed to IMPROVE upon the V12 with forged internals and better flowing cylinder heads... The very first HYPERCAR! But the German idiots didnt realize that THIS car could have ENDED the Corvette's life. Or they did know but probably didnt want ANY of that spotlight to outshine the German part of Daimler-Chrysler... Talk about cutting your nose to spite your face... On the other end... Daimler got Jeep SUVs on the cheap that bolstered their line-up at JUST the right time when the world went batshyte crazy for SUVs, got a platform for their awesome SLS AMG that Chrysler engineers worked on bolstering their mega image in the US to folks like SMK. I guess, it was better that way, to phoque Chrysler but reap the benefits of owning Chrysler for a little while...

And let me end this diatribe with this. You talk about what Daimler gave Chrysler, like the LX platform (again, sloppy seconds) like it was such a great thing. Well, as an eight year owner of one of those LX models (Magnum), I would personally like to tell Daimler to go F themselves. Don’t get me wrong. I loved the car overall but the interior was not one of those reasons. Daimler was responsible for the budget of those cars and let the bean counters turn a decent car into a Fisher Price plastic laden nightmare on the inside. That is a fact.

Which was Daimler’s fault since they were the owners. What are you not getting here? Fact is that Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep did BETTER under Fiat ownership than under Daimler. The problem there was Sergio siphoning profits from those groups to fund his steaming piles of junk in Italy. Again, this is a fact, not opinion. Again, the fault there lies with its owners. Who was that btw? Thats’ right. It was Daimler. You are not making as convicting argument here. The lesson here was that a company like Chrysler could not succeed off of platform sloppy seconds like the Crossfire and the 300.

Automobile magazine / Robert Cumberford's analysis. He actually worked in GM Styling about 1954-58 (he's 85-yrs old now), but I can tell he's looking only at a few pics and making a lot of assumptions (and errors). For example- he calls the thin steering wheel rim a "GM conceit" when it was without question a global occurrence. He quizzically states 'gauges, gauges everywhere and not a thing to read'. Lastly; thin whitewall tires were "enormously fun to draw"??? https://www.automobilemag.com/news/1964-pontiac-grand-prix/

So we are in agreement. Daimler ruined Chrysler. Thanks for confirming that.

FAKE NEWS: Again as your own posts shows and the twisting by ICE fan not wanting to admit the difference then and now and the idiot at Business insider that this is all based on OLD OUT OF DATE DATA. QUOTE: That difference is night and day, according to a new study published in the journal Nature Energy by University of California Davis researchers Scott Hardman and Gil Tal that surveyed Californians who purchased an electric vehicle between 2012 and 2018. THIS IS NOT A NEW STUDY, It was published 3 years ago. Now if very different than then and as has already been posted by @surreal1272 in this study, folks that changed back to ICE did so as they did not look at how they would charge their auto. No charger at their house, apartment, condo or in their general area to make it easy to recharge. Lets stop posting the FUD please.

I know the SLS had some beginnings when they were merged. But Daimler never told Dodge they couldn’t build a new Viper, Daimler walked with all those other platforms, they could have spent their own money on a new Viper. They could make a Viper now. You say they make all this profit yet haven’t put out a new vehicle that isn’t a Jeep in like 5 years. They were probably making money in the 90s I assume. Also Daimler had a dumb CEO then who was fired shortly after that merger.

The Cybertruck is not exactly THE definition of what a pick-up truck is. If the Cybertruck goes into production as is or even it ever goes into production... The Cybertruck is a toy. Its a fantasy vehicle. Its a concept car made into production. Its a lifestyle toy meant to tell your green EV loving folk what you got. But ONLY to the green ev loving folk that are rabid Tesla fans. Because GM has also entered that realm of a fantasy, recreational toy meant to compare how big the green EV d1ck is with save the planet pricks.... And the thing is...GM has already successfully marketed THAT huge penis contest 20 years ago TWICE And it seems the Hummer EV is gonna be a hit of Tesla proportions as well... The Ford F150 EV and the GM EV pick-up truck twins will show case what an EV pick-up truck could and should be. The Cybertruck is nothing but showmanship. And if that is the best of what Tesla could do...it has already lost... The Roadster 2.0 should have been out already...selling to folk that are buying the CURRENT ICE C8 Corvette... But the longer Elon is stalling it, the more time Chevy has got to perfect and out perform the Tesla Roadster 10 fold with the EV Stingray and the 1000 HP full on tri motor EV C8 Zora... Like I said... Elon has FAILED to take Tesla on to the next level. He ALLOWED his competition to get close to him and even surpass him... Instead of getting the Roadster out when the ICE C8 came out and embarrass Chevrolet with its dinosaur ICE sports car, Musk allowed Chevy to showcase that ICE is NOT dead, ICE is still very fast, affordable. Musk allowed GM and Chevy to gain MORE fans for the Vette, and Musk allowed Chevy engineers to tell the world that if you think this BASE ICE Corvette is fast...wait until the EV Vette hits the showroom. IT WILL BE FASTER AND AFFORDABLE TOO!!! While everyone was waiting for the Roadster 2.0 because we thought that was fast, Musk allowed THAT momentum to slip through his fingers and now the EV C8 Corvette is the one we are eagerly awaiting for...

“Their” not “heir”. What the hell autocorrect?

That is more on what Daimler was doing to Chrysler Daimler was giving Chrysler OLD platforms to work with and then bitchin' why Chryssler aint sellin'... YOU are doing the same thing here... Chrysler came out with the Charger concept in 1999. It was a WORKING RWD car. Chrysler gets RWD, OLD platform in 2005... Chrysler had to work miracles to make it modern... Chrysler has a new sporty model in mind...Daimler agrees to make it a version of the SLK... Daimler puts it on the OLD platform while the SLK gets a new gen. The Crossfire doesnt sell, the critics bemoan the Crossfire and Daimler doesnt understand why. Proceeds to blame Chrysler... Chrysler comes up with a mid-engine concept. WANTS to build it. Daimler says NO! Daimler is afraid that a Chrysler will shyte on ANY Mercedes... Chrysler has a new gen Viper going on. One that will be able to be sold in the near future as Chrysler knows safety standards are going to be tightened. Daimler cancels the project. It is rumoured though that Daimler uses this exact project to make their SL revival. Just a rumour though. What IS true, is that the Viper soldiers on with the old platform, that does NOT conform to the new safety standards. The merger is finished... Chrysler is gutted form Daimler. The bankruptcy happens just 2 short years later... Chrysler is gutted once again. Fiat comes along, greenlights a new Viper based on the old platform, Chrysler makes it into a track beast, besting out ANYTHING that Daimler makes... but BECAUSE its on an older platform that airbags wont be able to be put it, the Viper MUST be put to sleep. The world blames Chrysler and/or Fiat but the REAL problem was Daimler because Daimler didnt want anything from Chrysler to shyte on anything Daimler. The proof is that the LX cars did NOT get new tech either from Daimler OR Chrysler, because daimler did not ALLOW it. The Crossfire being the previous SLK gen while the SAME year the SLK is on the NEW platform... Really dude...I dont care.. Believe what you wanna believe. Mercedes is NOT all that... While you prop up Tesla in this thread...you have shat on the Corvette...the thing is...the Model S plaid ALSO beats out ANYTHING from Mercedes INCLUDING the million dollar plus shyte box from AMG called AMG-One.. PS: When Stellantis/Chrysler said that Dodge wants to get back its fastest sedan title away from Tesla...the Charger that Dodge wants to gibe us AINT a V8...but an EV. But your delusional hatred of anything American prevented you from seeing that and assumed that Dodge meant Hellcat V8... Please dont bother me with your nonsense...

The styling was bad. I do think if the Camaro, or a new model similar to it, went back to a hatchback design with a spacious cargo hold like the rageous, and all wheel drive option were out there. It would be a neat unique market offering. Or, maybe a non cadillac version of the escala?

I personally am a model year '66, so I turned 13 in '79. I was drawing cars probably since I was around 6. I got heavily into them around '78-79. So... you're 13, you're getting into cars, the current brand new one is on the left, and the one on the right is still only 10 years old... and they're still around. The '69 looks 1000 times better... then you look up the power/performance figures, and it's game over. 260 CI V8 vs. 455 - are you kidding?The gas shortage tried to get rid of them, but circa '80 the 60s stuff was already mostly in enthusiast's hands and getting appreciated especially in contrast to new cars. I'm not sure such a young used car ever made an 'about face' in interest/value in 10 years ever (before or since), but the '79-into the 80s cars PUSHED enthusiasts right back to the mid 60s-early 70s stuff. Musclecars began to take off circa '85-89; there were multiple publications focusing on them. I remember my brother (7 yrs younger) and I laying on the floor, paging thru MuscleCar Review the afternoon each issue hit the mailbox. Now he has a '65 GTO, '68 Firebird, '71 GTO (his first car... ironically 7 yrs younger than my 1st car), and a '69 Firebird project car he's building with his step-son. I 'grew up' around the late 70s-late 80s stuff, but I never had more than a passing interest in them.

Reminiscing about my childhood and the cars that I liked. I never posted this particular Pontiac anywhere. Never mentioned that I liked it, anywhere. First time. 1970 Catalina There was one in my neighborhood growing up. I think it was a 4 door. I do not think it had a vinyl top. It was the same green colour as this one with the same hub caps Loved the nose Loved the rear

You need to pay attention in class. That was a decade ago. They are making a profit now on cars like the Challenger and Charger while Tesla loses money on their cars. I sure as hell know that Daimler didn’t do a damn thing to help them. In fact, their ownership is what accelerated their bankruptcy but again, shhhhh, we don’t ever speak ill of your German masters. Btw, it’s been common knowledge for the last eight years that Sergio siphoned of the popular profit making domestic brands to fund those piles of $h! from Italy. You know that already so stop trying to play dumb about it just because other folks here don’t worship Elon Musk and his money losing cars.

Powerbarn is empty!

worthwhile endeavor. this is how technology improvements R&D can be paid for. Rather than making car prices out of reach. Fuel diversity is not a bad thing. One type of propulsion mandated, bad thing. We'll need gas and electric and other sources for all our propulsion and transportation needs.

That was from a study dating back to 2019 (from 2015-2019 EV owners) which was mostly due to people not doing a little research and making sure that had viable charging options at home (like folks in rental homes, condos, or apartments). Much has changed on that front since then. https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/ev-owners-switch-gas-power-study/ But much like the number of folks who grow up knowing how to drive a stick, that number is going down every year. The younger generations know less and less to what you are referring and twenty years form now, hardly any will grow up knowing that.

Ford, GM and VW combined have 4 EV's for sale right now, and that is even counting Bolt and Bolt EUV separately. Tesla has 4 too, and none of what Ford, VW or GM has is as good as what Tesla has right now. No one caught Tesla yet. Also you are just assuming that if Ford and GM or VW build EV's people will start buying them and shelling out $50k for a small SUV like the iD4. People in the USA aren't buying the Tiguan in any big number and that is a $25,000 SUV, why are they going to spend double Tiguan money, for an SUV the same size and performance as a Tiguan? People still buy brand names. Toyota still has a better brand image than Ford or Chevy for example. Tesla has a better brand image than any mainstream car, and better than most of the luxury cars. Saying Ford or Chevrolet are going to go head to head with Tesla is like saying Ford is going to go head to head with Lexus and Audi and charge Lexus and Audi prices and get people to pay it. It isn't going to happen. And yes the Mach-E will get some initial sales bump but Kia, Hyundai, Toyota, Honda will all jump in there too, and those brands do pretty well.

If Chrysler was so profitable, why did they need a bailout in 2009, and get sold to Cerberus, then sold to Fiat? And Daimler dumped them. Stellantis is their 4th owner in 15 years, an Chrysler hasn’t been able to survive on their own since the 90s and if it was such a cash cow, parent companies wouldn’t keep selling it off to get rid of it.

They split up because they knew Chrysler wasn't worth keeping. Chrysler got the Charger/300 platform, the Grand Cherokee platform and the Crossfire from Mercedes. Outside of the Ram 1500, their 2 most profitable vehicles of the past 15 years are because of Mercedes. And then Fiat gave them the Promaster and Promaster City, the platform the for the Dart/200/Cherokee, the platform for the Renegade. Chrysler has mooched off other companies for 20 years, and now all the Chrysler/Dodge/Jeeps will get Opel and Peugeot underpinnings and engines.

Daimler gave them the 300/Charger/Challenger and Grand Cherokee, which is what that company is build on outside of the Ram 1500. Italy gave them the Dart/200/Cherokee and Renegade. Without Fiat and Daimler, Ram would be just the 1500, Dodge would have been the Journey and Caravan, and Chrysler would have been the Town and Country/Pacifica. Jeep would have had the Patriot and Compass and Wrangler.

https://www.businessinsider.com/electric-car-owners-switching-gas-charging-a-hassle-study-2021-4 1 in 5 electric vehicle owners in California switched back to gas because charging their cars is a hassle, research shows Roughly one in five plug-in electric vehicle (PEV) owners switched back to owning gas-powered cars, in large part because charging the batteries was a pain in the… trunk, the researchers found. Of those who switched, over 70% lacked access to Level 2 charging at home, and slightly fewer than that lacked Level 2 connections at their workplace. "If you don't have a Level 2, it's almost impossible," said Tynan, who has tested a wide range of makes and models of PEVs over the years for his research. Even with the faster charging, a Chevy Bolt he tested still needed nearly six hours to top its range back up to 300 miles from nearly empty — something that takes him just minutes at the pump with his family SUV. Public charging stations may look like the electric version of the gas station, but nearly two-thirds of PEV drivers in the survey said they didn't use them. Exactly why they didn't use the public stalls was not specified. EVs have come a long way in recent years in terms of range, safety, comfort, and tech features, but Hardman and Tal note that very little has changed in terms of how they are recharged. "It should not be assumed that once a consumer purchases a PEV they will continue owning one," Hardman and Tal wrote. "What is clear is that this could slow PEV market growth and make reaching 100% PEV sales more difficult."

Cybertruck will be on sale before the F150 Lightning or the electric Silverado, and Cybertruck does some cool stuff, I think people will buy it. The Tesla Roadster is 3 times the cost of a Corvette, also anyone that is a Tesla fan, won't buy an ICE car, so they aren't buying Corvettes, plus the Model S is faster around a track than a C8. Also when is the Corvette going to take the Nurburgring record? Right now it is 42 seconds a lap slower than the AMG GT Black series, which in a few months will be Mercedes 2nd quickest car. Corvette has good performance per dollar, always has, but it isn't some world killer sports car. The Veyron has a 275 mph top speed, the Corvette's is like 200. The Corvette does 0-124 mph in 12 seconds, the AMG One does it in under 6. And even if they build a 1,000 hp Corvette in a few years, the Rimac Nevera is on sale now with 1,900 hp and an 8.6 second 1/4 mile time.

No they wont. The world saw what the Hummer looks like, so they will stay the PHOQUE away from it. Only rabid Tesla fanboys will buy that. And ONLY the ones that have the room for one. THAT equals to NOT many... The Hummer is also huge...but it has a more BROADER appeal. The Hummer H1 and H2 were PREMATURELY canceled. With the EXPLOSION of Jeep SINCE the cancelation of HUMMER ICE and the introduction and SUCCESS of the Ford Bronco only tells me that the HUMMER EV willl TROUNCE the Cybertruck in sales. They are indeed in the same category those two... Again...GLOSS over the fact that in 2022...an EV HYBRID Vette is gonna appear. GLOSS over the fact that the C8 YOU are referring to is the BASE PHOQUING CORVETTE THAT COSTS HALF THE PRICE OF A PHOQUING PLAID MODEL S... YOU JUST ADMITTED THAT ONLY TESLA FANBOYS ARE GONNA BUY THE ROADSTER OVER THE C8 EV...BUT THE VETTE HAS 1000% MORE FAN BASE THAN THE ROADSTER HAS AND EVER WILL!!! AND...THE VETTE EV HYBRID WILL EMPLOY SOME C8 Z06 TRACK SUSPENSION... I SERIOUSLY THINK YOU SHOULD STOP THE SHYTE CONVERSATIONS...THE CORVETTE'S MISSION AT THIS POINT IN TIME IS TO BE A TRACK BEAST...ITS A SPORTS CAR YOU DUMMY! THE C8 YOU SEE NOW IS A BASE MODEL!!! IT IS ITS MISSION IN LIFE TO BE A TRACK BEAST!!! YOU THINK THE MODEL S WITH ITS 5000LBS WEIGHT IS GONNA STILL BE A TRACK WINNER WHEN A LIGHTER, MORE CAPABLE SPORTS CAR WILL COME OUT??? IF YOU THINK THAT, YOU ARE STUPIDER THAN I THOUGHT!!! YES IT IS!!! THE VEYRON EXISTS BECAUSE IT WANTS TO DEFEAT SPORTS CARS LIKE THE CORVETTE!!! THE CORVETTE IS THE PRIMARY CAR THESE HIGH EXOTICS TRY TO BEAT YEAR AFTER YEAR... BTW...IT WOULD BE SILLY IF BUGATTI BUILT A ONE MILLION DOLLAR CAR THAT GETS TROUNCED BY A SIXTY THOUSAND DOLLAR ONE. AND IT NEARLY DOES WITH HALF THE HORSEPOWER...

Corvette C8 Nurburgring time: 7:29.9 Corvette C7 Z06 Nurburgring time: 7:13.9 Mercedes-AMG GT Black Series Nurburgring time: 6:43.6 Get back to me when the Corvette beats the AMG GT.

How many sedans on market today do 0-60 in under 2 seconds? Or forget sedans, just cars in general? The Rimac in Europe but not here yet and the Model S. How many EV's have a 400+ mile range? Only the Model S. How many even hit 325 miles or more? Only Tesla's. No one has caught up yet. And they might, but Tesla won't stand still either. Better be fast because Mercedes is going to break that 6:43.6 record in the next couple months.

Daimler paid $37 billion for Chrysler and sold it 9 years later for $7.4 billion because Chrysler was losing so much money. The fact that Daimler was willing to take a $30 billion loss just to get rid of it shows how bad their financial situation was. Also that no one was willing to pay over $7.4 billion for the company, which needed government bail out 2 years later. Daimler got nothing from Chrysler, Chrysler didn't make any money, and they didn't use any of those platforms or powertrains, other than the joint work on the ML and Jeep Grand Cherokee, which the ML got 2 new platforms before the Grand Cherokee got one. If Chrysler has so much money, why did it take until 2022 model year for Jeep to update a chassis from 2005, why is the Charger still on a 1990s Mercedes platform? Why doesn't Chrysler lead the market in EV? Why don't they have an all new Charger every 6 years like Toyota puts out a new Camry every 6? https://money.cnn.com/2007/05/14/news/companies/chrysler_sale/ Here you go, in 2006 Chrysler had a $1.5 billion loss, while DaimlerChrysler overall had a $7.3 billion profit. So the Daimler side made $8.8 billion while Chrysler lost $1.5.