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It is not about convincing oneself, you have probably never had the leg space problems one with 40" long legs has. Rivian front is set up the way I love my 1994 GMC Suburban as while it has a center console, the leg area allows for the natura V of a guy sitting in the drivers seat since unlike woman who can have both of their legs together while they drive, guys have some junk that gets squeezed unless you just very small package. Even in my Escalade, I hate that my right leg is up against the center area. I love this space that the Suburban had and no Humans do not need a ton of storage space, seems so many are hoarders. I think Rivian has nailed it for the interior.

Happi Pi Day, folks. I guess we have this (3.14) because we can't have E-Day (2.78). But my main question here is whether any restaurant chains* are giving out any free pie today? *Village Inn locations typically have Free Pie Wednesday year round and, in Florida, one might just happen onto key lime pie as a choice!

Yeah, great role...I liked him in 'Accidental Tourist' and 'Broadcast News' also. A recent small part in the show 'Goliath' was very good also. Another good small role in a movie was in 'A History of Violence'.

Very sad and weird that William Hurt died in the last few days. He was only 71. I have not seen too many of his movies, but he was perfectly cast as Ned Racine, the small coastal town Florida lawyer, in "Body Heat." What a movie. Highly recommended.

Maybe YOU are bending your legs sideways and angling them off beyond the footprint of the front seat bottom... but how you're working the accelerator that way I can't imagine. C'mon, be realistic- that space is not 'legroom' and that's not eh way legroom is measured.

? Space -height-wise- either has to come OUT of the interior, or the body shell is placed on TOP of the pack, making for a taller vehicle. Its one or the other.

That is a crock, unlike the hump for the transmission, the differentials and drive line, ICE takes up way more room than an electric power train. You know this, over 2,000 parts in a basic ICE and about 20 in an electric motor. ICE takes up way more interior space than a flat battery pack between the frame and the electric motors. I learned much from you on older auto's, do not blame battery packs for taking up interior space when you know that is not true.

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I only have a 36 inch inseam w/ 38 waist, 6'0"...in most vehicles, I find I have to have the seat all the way back, reclined a bit, and raised up off the floor because I like to see over the dash..but not so high my head hits the ceiling. Old cars without seat height or backrest adjustment and lack of steering column tilt/telescope can be a pain to get comfortable in.

For car-style EVs, yes, I could see the battery pack resulting in less footroom/floorspace than an ICE car of similar size...but for truckular BOF EVs like the Lightning, Hummer, and Silverado EV, the body sits on top of the frame like on a real truck and the battery pack is within the frame under the floor? So in theory, truckular EVs could have a pretty flat floor w/ no center hump...

Yeah, always wondered how people parallel parked some of the cars in the ancient world...tiny rear window at a angle, no passenger side mirror, tiny driver's side mirror..I guess they parked by feel...stop when you bump into another car..

WOW, lovely auto, but talk about them BLIND Spots! That is one FAT C pillar! And people talk about terrible blind spots in today's SUVs. ?

After about 9 hrs of driving yesterday (went to an Aunt's funeral in KY), I'm exhausted...slept in until 9-ish, got up, cold, snowing... yay....looking forward to Spring.

"Sprrreeng ahead ... I tell you" "und guten morgen"

What the hell are you learning about fitting into a Rivian from a picture?!? Rivian has three inches LESS front leg room than an Escalade. You're not going to find that they 'nailed it'. Keep on convincing yourself tho. 'The leg area allows for a guy to sit with his knees spread' - That's tru of everything back to...oh; the dawn of the motor vehicle. What a bizarre statement.

Battery packs.