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Trucks and SUVs are where the market and profits are... and they have very good SUVs--these engines will be going in the Grand Cherokee, Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer (and maybe the next gen Durango?), presumably the Ram also. I could see myself shopping for a WL GC w/ the TT6 in a few years. I am definitely going to miss the Charger and Challenger, but sadly the market for muscle cars is very small and shrinking, I believe...:(

Ford does the Explorer as a cop car that has effectively and successfully replaced their own Crown Vic and Taurus and consequently the Charger. Ford has proposed the Mach E for a police pursuit vehicle but I dont know how successful it ill be as it seems the Mach E isnt suited best for police work. Chevy has no competitive vehicle to offer. However, the Tahoe is fast becoming a staple on many police fleets after 2 decades of constant pushing and they are proposing a future EV Blazer SUV cop car even before the Blazer is in production. Dodge been losing much ground to Ford police cars, especially when Ford decided that the Explorer could and is a fine candidate. The Charger has been fast losing its place as a formidable police car for quite some time. Dodge has offered a Durango police vehicle for a couple of years now. F150s and Silverados have also been added in the police pursuit tool box for many police departments. What Im trying to say is WHAT and WHY has taken Dodge all this time to really push a Durango police pursuit vehicle when its 2 other Michigan rivals have done so what now seems forever? For sure! This is what I was trying to say myself. End of an era for 2dr coupes. This segment has died 20 years ago. Very few survivors and not many but more than a handful of revived by a few coupes here and there but really dying now. Muscle cars have died 50 years ago. Even fewer survivors and even less new/old name plate revivors. RWD cars are too few and far between. Manual transmission cars as well. Sad, for sure. But this news is really not new in any way. Its been a long time coming regardless the advent of an EV era rushing in. I dont think the names will go anywhere. However, it will all fall under the engineering as to how close they could engineer an EV to emulate an ICE muscle car and the marketing team to convince folk that an EV Charger and Challenger could be and actually are worthy modern day muscle cars with electric motors and batteries as their motive power. The design team lastly as the EV Chargers and Challengers will have to have that MOPAR muscle car proportions and styles and elements and all that MOPAR eye candy.

Sad to hear the Challenger and Charger going away.. so they are giving up on the police car market also (unless they are going to push the Durango police package as a replacement for the Charger?). I'll miss the Challenger, was one of the last 2dr RWD coupes available w/ a V8 and manual, in this world of styleless generic white appliances, it really stood out.. It will be interesting to see how walking away from their most iconic models will go for Dodge. I can't imagine the EV replacement will get nearly as many sales.

In the grand scheme of things, I aint so sad about the ICE version of the Challenger and Charger going away next year. To say that it doesnt affect me emotionally would not be entirely true. Its an end to several types of eras this news is. Several types of eras that define my automotive enthusiasm. But hey, time marches on. Things come and go. Time to move on and unto the next thing. As long as Stellantis/Dodge gives us a worthy muscle car in EV form not necessarily needed to be called Charger and/or Challenger, Im good. But the EV(s) to replace its modern, now old, ICE muscle cars better be in the same vein for me not to feel like Im gonna miss a Hellcat...

Join me in wishing @NINETY EIGHT REGENCY , a long time member and our reporter, a happy birthday! Thanks to Landis, we get to sample automotive videos and articles from past decades as well as more recent ones. Some of them now look and sound very funny to us in 2022 and, then, some of the regular presenters of these videos are quirky and entertaining. Nonetheless, all of the content is informative. Today is also the birthday of Napoleon Bonaparte and Julia Child. I always knew that. Of more contemporary personalities, it is the birthday of Ben Affleck, Jennifer Lawrence, and Melinda Gates. But most of all, this is a day I always remember because it would have been my dad's birthday. My dad always spoke his mind and his filter didn't always work, so this could be entertaining. My mom always went for the diplomatic approach and tried to keep the peace with everyone. I think I'm much more like my dad in this regard. Happy birthday, Landis!

My understanding, at least in the near term, is that the inline TT6 is replacing the V8s. The 3.6 Pentastar will remain....

I still see a lot of Chargers in use by the Ohio Highway Patrol, but I could see those being replaced by SUVs. What isn't clear to me is how the EV muscle car that they keep hinting at will be named/branded. Will it be a 2dr or a 4dr?

Every article I read is different. From what I've read, the V8 is going away, and the trucks and SUVs are getting a TT inline 6 to replace it. The Challenger and Charger are going away completely, replaced by an EV muscle car. Or something like that.

This is very sad. It contradicts a fairly recent article uploaded by another C&G member saying they would delay pulling the plug a while more. As for the numbers, 1.5 million Chargers seems like a lot, but that's over a long span of years. They sold over 500,000 Cutlasses in 1976 alone. So what happens, then, there's a vacuum in those vehicle niches until Stellantis figures out what to slot in? I was hoping for a slight refresh. They could have pulled it off and kept the Brampton, ON, Canada plant humming along a little longer and there would have still been buyers for those cars. Without a doubt. Just get rid of the gas hog models with 707 (or 797) horses to bring up CAFE numbers.

R.I.P. to the Dodge Challenger and Charger. 2023 is the end of ICE for them. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/15/dodge-challenger-charger-to-be-discontinued-in-2023.html

RIP to the Dodge Charger and Challenger. 2023 is the end. https://www.cnbc.com/2022/08/15/dodge-challenger-charger-to-be-discontinued-in-2023.html