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The last Sunday tends to be ugly packed....every day before then, it's much easier to make moves thru the Convention Center. The LA Auto Show dates tend to be the first Saturday thru the second Sunday in January. It might begin the first Friday this year, I don't know. And to AAS, I ain't that old, but the lot of the SoCals seem to be teens or something.

1. Chevy Celebrity 2. Toyota Camry 3. Toyota Avalon 4. 95 Nissan 200SX 5. Ford Windstar 6. Mazda 323 7. VW Passat 8. Chevy Cavalier 9. Mitsubishi Eclipse 10. Ford Maverick 11. Ford Escort 12. Honda del Sol 13. VW Corrado 14. Chevy Monza 15. Chevy Citation 16. Olds Aurora 17. Geo Metro 18. Mitsubishi Diamante 19. Olds Achieva 20. Ford Taurus Except in one case, I didn't add the year, because it should be assumed I'm talking about the first year the name was used in the U.S. market Bonus: What was the Chevy Beretta meant to replace? And name the styling cue that gives that away.

I guess I'm not that memorable to you guys, but I'll live.... I will say I'm all for that big meet-up in January with the SoCals when the L.A. show happens. My tradition is to go on the first Saturday of the show, though that logic is becoming increasingly flawed, with so much being saved for later in the show's run to coincide with the Detroit debut. So as long as it ain't the last Sunday, whatever day we agree on, I'm all for it. So what's up with it? I'm afraid, however, that I'll be the elder statesman of you all...

My thing is, how would they know you're daily driving your car? Do they stop you everyday and check your odometer?

What was racial that Morgan had to say?

You should see what the REAL National makes... Looks like it's a Matsushita company (like Panasonic and Technics)...guess that makes National the appliance arm.

Have your girl write it... But do you have that story about what a great guy you are and something selfless you're doing or a disease you're currently suffering?

LOL@ PikaZhu and Pocket Money... I never heard of the National brand before today....

Would love to get the Safari van, the LeMans, or my mom's Accord on either show....respectively, too many broken doors and it needs a new seat and roof, just a wallop of restoration to do, and airbags are expensive to replace and reset. Basically, three vehicles with big potential...the GMs could definitely be some great entertainers. Maybe I'll work out a deal with my little brother or one of my cousins in their late teens. In Overhaulin's case, I can just write a letter for my mom.

^^That post makes me think of the Ask Jeeves commercial... Anyway, admins, can we see the "no political talk" and raise it "no religious talk" please? Thanks.

Ditto my feelings of the 87 Pathfinder...or the old 70s Cherokee.

It's a typo...I mean 266....the little lady was all up in my ear for us to leave when I was typing it.

2 H1s and an early 70s lime green Satellite coupe.

Brad Lidge has to be feeling like Byung Yung Kim right about now.

Hi, LordStafford!! You mean Excursion. Expedition is sized between Tahoe and Suburban. I don't think the Excursion is bigger than an H1.

1. KA24DE - Nissan 2.4 liter I-4 used in 240 SX and the first 2 Altimas. About 150 horses 2. VH41DE - 4.1 liter V-8 based on the VH45 used in the first Q45. This version is from the second Q (Cima), which itself is based on the Cedric/Gloria twins. 2066 horses 4. F23A7 - I was going to guess it was used in the 92-96 Prelude Si, but it's definitely a Honda code. If it 's from the prelude, it made 160. Don't know the rest.

It's funny that this comes up, as I was thinking yesterday of those old mirrored arcade games from the 80s.

Viewt - Nissan March Nouera - their Accord/our TSX (rear's kinda cool, but he front is disgusting) Galue - their Fuga/our M (another bad one) Ryoga - Sentra Galue-II - their Cedric/Gloria/our previous M Don't know what the ray is, but it would have to be another Nissan....I see they tried to give it some MINI influyence....

What would someone have against Jay Leno buying it?

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I'm inclined to disagree....I think the term "sporty" is used way too loosely in inappropriate contexts....and way too many cars are called "mid-size" when they could simply be compacts or actually be big cars.

"Sporty" describes looks. "Sporting" is what performance, personality, engineering and such... "Large mid-size" is an oxymoron....if it's a big car, it's a big car...if it's mid-size, it's mid-size. Add on at your leisure....

-ION Redline -Infiniti QX56 limo -another 06 Civic coupe (the surge begins)

We who post here, we're red-blooded CAR fans...we like performance, we like being low to the ground...they're simply more interesting, more fun, and they just do it for us.... In the beginning, SUVs were called 4x4s, and were only made by six companies: Jeep Land Rover Toyota (Land Cruiser has to be one of the greatest inventions) Chevy/GMC Ford Dodge Isuzu, Mitsubishi, Nissan, and Mercedes came in with their entries in the late 70s and early 80s...they all were rugged, real off-roading machines that knew their role, and left all of that trying to be the best peoplemover and citymobile crap to cars, the way mature intended. Then, two ugly things happened: Suzuki enters that automotive world with the Samurai 5 years later, Ford replaced the Bronco II with the Explorer Both became big hits with city dwellers and threw everything out of whack... SUVs of today, by and large, are appliances, and unnecessary ones at that. A sorry excuse of a vehicle, and pone that has killed the car game. No more 2-door sedans, no more sports coupes, barely any station wagons or 2-seaters....it's all throwaway 4-door sedans and overcompensatory, irresponsible SUVs. And these SUVs are made by companies that really have no business doing anything but cars....companies tha tnever even made pickups doing SUVs....goddamn crime. People drive these things and really think they're doing it, really believe SUVs are the business...you should see this city, just littered with them, especially on clubbing nights, it's ridiculous. Those with Lexus badges are the biggest offenders. However, I have to ackowledge, as much as I prefer cars, there are quite a few of today's SUVs one finds pretty cool. Range Rover Sport SRX (though I find it difficult to call it a proper SUV) Touareg Trailblazer Axiom (I feel Isuzu killed it too soon) H3 VUE Redine that new Grand Vitara Pathfinder If I was on a cost-no-object new SUV search, that's my list. What about you?

I think they do the ridiculous things they do to some of these cars simply because MTV is paying for it, and hey, it's entertainment..... I remember one episode where a cat had a Mitsubishi Mirage sedan (for sure, definitely a model that's pretty throwaway and nowhere near sporty)...when reveal time came, Q said something to the effect of "we put $20,000 worth of work into a $900 car." The tone of his voice seemed to declare that it really was a waste of time. It's probably why they get so giddy over brand new cars, as they probably feel those are more worth all those expensive gadgets. I have to think they prefer to be unleashed on more interesting iron, even if it is just a TV show about hooking up college-age kids. I know this much, regardless of what I push, if it goes on that show, it's got the get the drivetrain addressed, I want to be able to actually use my trunk, and I could give two turds about an Xbox. A laptop mounted up front, however, that might be pretty swift....