Croc

That interior is not that great. I think it looks cheap in pictures, and you can tell it IS cheap when you sit in one like I did at LAIAS. The new VWs have great exteriors, but the interiors are not up to their usual par.

Heh...I was thinking the same thing.GM should work on getting their PR people more stylish and less...1985.

Remember when polls were banned for a while due to an overexuberant member creating 5+ polls per day for a week? Again, it isn't so much that anyone is doing anything "wrong," but that some people have a hard time knowing when to stop. Too much of a good thing...if you get my drift :AH-HA_wink:

Maybe I didn't express myself the most clearly...What you said above is what I was getting at regarding the lack of professionalism. The whole "Toyota can go #*@& themselves" or "Jap crap" or other such expressions that get thrown around. It gets irritating when in a section like The Other Guys someone posts a picture of the new Lexus ES and while most of the members are wanting to discuss the positives/negatives of the new model and debate how it will affect GM and the marketplace in general, you will get a post like this one: Posts like this are not professional, they do not contribute to the threads, and they don't even try to be intelligently objective.Turbo, I've seen you post a few times on that other quiet site (not GMI) and if you go to the feedback thread in The Gearbox you can read a few posts by Flint and haypops to get a good feel for what I'm referring to. Oh, and I too do not enjoy being accused of things I did not do...look at the *F* Cancels MetaOne thread for the latest, sterling example of this.

As far as I've heard, if this is brought to America it would have rear-biased AWD. So...how is that a problem?

C&G is slowly turning into more of a MySpace-like, touchy-feely place for certain people, and those people tend to be active members. I've said from the start that I joined this site to talk cars, not make friends, though the latter has happened through the process. I wish C&G would get as professional as it was in the beginning and lose a lot of the fluff that gets old after a while.

vagina

Yea of course, but they really look like MB's design direction as of late...

They aren't calling it a 4-door coupe, silly. I just think the racy roofline is "coupe-like," because coupes tend to have racy rooflines. Seriously, chill out.

kettle

I can see where Flint is coming from. I think GM should compete in the segment, but it is the extent of which that I am cautious on...GM needs more models for economies-of-scale, but they can't all be ponycars too or else they will just cannibalize sales.

Thanks for yet another meaningful comment. Yes I'm being sarcastic.

I've sat in an R-Class, and they have fine interiors, with the exception of the location of the transmission shifter (column).

A natural evolution of the current model. Let's hope the electronic gremlins that have plagued the current model are gone. Love the sexy coupe-like styling and beautiful beltline!

Looks good.

The Pursuit is coming over as the G4 and G5 this fall. G4 = sedan, G5 = coupe.

Thanks for avoiding this one.Now, do you have anything meaningful to say about this new Lexus?

I want to like it, but I can't. Once again Toyota uses weird design cues with the exterior. The C-pillar looks very dated, and the rear overhang is a bit much.

...so bland ETA: yea, why no dash shot?

Someone seems to be in an argumentative mood today...

I never said you were But these guys sure seemed to be...and you definitely agreed with CSpec... Mark my words, these will sell amazingly. I wouldn't mind one based on what I've seen, the interiors are no worse than GM's (probably better) and the exterior has a lot of character. Plus, a hatch is a great idea. This would make a great first car for someone.

What a marked improvement!

Bitch about it all you guys want, but this is a very compelling vehicle for the market.

That new grille does wonders. The interior is really, really nice. A+ Refresh!

Yup...At the gym in the cardio room, on airplanes, doing hw when roomie is studying and i cant just play it on the laptop...or even occasionally going to and from (and even sometimes during) class.