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Union representation on the board? Not gonna happen.

Ugh...so trashy-looking. I'm sorry, maybe I'm elitist, but I have a hard time looking at, much less taking seriously, anyone who looks like that.

What? If you don't need heated washer fluid, then don't order the option. If the car comes with it, then it comes with it. The Lucerne is already a bargain, and $100 is a drop in the bucket when you are dealing with $30,000+

Below the woodgrain is the same squishy vinyl GM has been using there for forever. Now, if you are referring to the side of the console area in the footwells, well of course that's hard plastic as it has to hold up to scuffs. The underside of the dash is harder, but the center stack does NOT have hard plastic. That is soft-touch plastic as every review has noted. You want hard plastic, you check out the dash in the Equinox. NOTHING like that is in the Lucerne. I think you might be forgetting that all plastic has to have a degree of hardness, but the plastics in the Lucerne all have matte finishes and are not crunchy-hard. EDIT: Seriously, if you're still planning on attending LAIAS on the 13th let's just settle this then, shall we?

I agree with this. I just know that if I were the prosecuting attourney I'd feel wrong advocating for someone to die. Would I be against the death penalty? No...but I wouldn't be able to argue FOR it with a clean conscience.

No, you don't. I'm talking value as in features for the money. Using inflation-adjusted numbers, cars are more affordable than ever. Depreciation is always a factor, just as it was in the 1960s.

...because THAT will solve any of GM's problems... Yeah, forget it.

The wood is real, and looks it. I have sat in one. What hard brittle plastic are you referring to? I saw none, and trust me I tapped and caressed the dash for several minutes looking for flaws; I found none. The plastic is actually soft-touch and has a nice matte, low-gloss sheen to it. I found NOTHING wrong with the plastic. I also sat in a LaCrosse, and if you honestly think it has better plastics, you are crazy. I'm sorry, but there is just no cheap plastic in the Lucerne on the center stack!

I was thinking of a dark brown wood, actually. The ash/grey wood in the Milan is classy IMO, but it's more European than American, something the LaCrosse isn't trying to be.

If you don't need it, then don't buy it. Simple as that.

:rolleyes: Chris, just smile and nod, smile and nod...

Well he's dying. I don't know how I feel exactly. I'm for the death penalty in instances where there is zero doubt (not beyond reasonable...there cannot be ANY doubt whatsoever in a death penalty case IMO)...but at the same time I am wrestling with the ethical implications of the prosecution arguing that someone should die on the appeals. To me, that almost seems like advocating legal murder. I dunno if I'm articulating this clearly...but I have no problem with the death sentence being handed out...I just don't know how I feel that on appeal the prosecution was actively advocating the death penalty...It would be so much easier for my mind if it were just the defense arguing against it and the judge making a decision to overturn or uphold the sentence based on the arguments. Actively advocating for someone's death just seems wrong to me...

Remember, the CC was cancelled most likely due to low sales and because 1993 was the intro year for the B-body Fleetwood. The plant capacity in Arlington, TX had to come from somewhere...

Buick really should have decided light or dark though with the plood. This orange sh!t just reeks of compromise. If they had been avant-garde and gone for an uber-blonde wood, it could have looked almost scandinavian inside (with the exception of the roundish center stack console shape). Had they gone for a dark plood, it would look clasically american. as of now, it just looks like trashy american cheese.

Overall package? 2000s for sure. Ride and handling is the best across the industry as it has ever been, more features are standard than ever before, safety is better than ever, and value is better than ever. Plus I love the styling!

Truer words have yet to be spoken regarding this "Plan."

No, no, no...the Impala doesn't have orange wood. I'm pretty sure you can't tick an option for it, either :P

me too. nice reference for that good 80s ad campaign, too!

You really dig that pumpkin spice-orange wood, don't you?

I'm a fan of the current CL as well...oh well, looks like they are addressing the rear headroom concerns by making the roof much less sleek. Pity.

the post title specifically said "not the Bravada"

The initial post said "class-leading."

I haven't. But the interior is damn amazing, and is best in class, at least until the GMT-900s. F-150 is also the #1 truck by sales. It also looks the best IMO.

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You might have an air leak around a door seal, but my M-Class has a bit of wind noise too. The 2007 Tahoe promises less via a slicker windshield, but your 06 has the more upright windshield of the GMT-800s. Without more information, I cannot say if the noise is inherent to the design or not.