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Disagree, with the headlights and the grille shape it almost looks "cute" in that "I'm smiling at you!" kind of way. I don't mind it, but I'm not obsessed with it, either.

sounds good! i have a french toast recipe that is amazing though i make it the same way you make your apple dish: sans any real measuring. so while id love to post it here, i cant really since the number of eggs even varies depending on the batch i make! Here's what i put in it: eggs flour sugar vanilla milk i try to make a mixture that is thick, but not too thick, kind of like thick pancake batter? then i place bread slices in a pyrex dish and pour the batter over them and let sit overnight. Serve em up in the morning. For an extra large and extra moist helping, layer bread in the pyrex dish so two slices are on top of each other. when sitting overnight, they will fuse together and when cooked there will be a very moist, almost (but not quite) gooey center. Yum!

It really is amazing.

1.5 works for me!

The last thing we need on this site is another anti-education member. I sincerely hope you have a college fund for your son so he can have the best shot at a great future after high school.

Aveo also has a LOT of room for such a little car. With the front seatback all the way back at the autoshow, my father could fit back there, and he is not small!

That Peugot must not have sold well in LA at all. Los Angelonians sure love their horns!

Hey, nothing wrong with car porn. The only time when the porn isn't acceptable is when it's "car-less" and not appropriate for the context of the thread, something any halfway intelligent adult can figure out.

Nothing disturbing about that. It at least has a car in it.

I, too, prefer SUVs, but the only thing I have against wagons is the low ground clearance. So I have no problem with tall wagons. Minivan is just a dirty word that shall not be spoken.

No, this has little to do with day traders. If this were about day traders, there would be no Buick, Saturn, HUMMER, or SAAB.

But the minivans all end their A-pillars over the front wheel well. Pacifica and R-Class end the A-pillar before the wheel well, and the front doors seem to be in the same place, though the R-Class' wheel well flares might be throwing you off slightly? I just don't see the cab forward like I do in the minivans. R-Class also seats 6, not 7 like most minivans. But you're right, this is a digression and not really important.

The new Impala looks great in person! The squad car version looks pretty good, but few fleets will have the American flag on it. I want to see what they look like with "Carmel Police Dept." on them. My only complaint is that i gotta get used to a new headlight shape in my rearview mirror and in oncoming traffic.

Still though, it uses less fossil fuels. I'm definitely open to driving a hybrid, possibly the Milan hybrid due in two years.

but it would compete with which other car in that segment...? You might get a hardtop one day from Cadillac (doubtful), but don't count on seeing another land yacht!

The days of exclusive engines at GM should be gone. They just add expense! No need for multiple engines that are, at their core, the same. This is part of the reason GM is in so much trouble...needless differentiation, yet they skimp on the meaningful differentiation like interior and exterior styling.

Sorry, Griff, but the R-Class is a tall wagon/crossover like the Pacifica, not a minivan. If you consider the Pacifica to be a minivan, then I guess we are just using different terminologies, but the shape of the R-Class isn't that of a minivan. Even the most avant-garde minivan, the Quest, looks like a minivan in shape, while the R-Class doesn't; it looks more like a tall wagon. Compare: I really think the R-Class has more in common with the tall wagon "Sports Tourer" crossover like the Pacifica than with the minivans. Also, from the pictures it looks like the minivans are taller as they seem to have massively high beltlines as well as large greenhouses. The Pacifica and R-Class have high beltlines but relatively smaller greenhouses.

That is the WORST version of a holiday medley I have ever heard in my life. Who is that singer who ruined Christmas?

OK so do we know when Enclave pics are to be released to the media? Midnight on which day?

Not referring to you.

BTW--Is Magellan the final name for the Mercury? Cuz I think it's a terrible name! Makes me think of the big, wallowy and clumsy dragon from Eureka's Castle.

His post was referring more to type of vehicle than direct competitors. I still think the Buick would compete with the Mercury though.

OK wait I am very confused here. Are you talking about a minivan in ADDITION to Enclave? Because Enclave is NOT a minivan. It is a Centieme-like crossover, which CLEARLY means it isn't a minivan.

I actually like the ovoid Sable... and GM cars had the low saggy rear seats to give the illusion of adequate rear headroom--on paper.

works for me 1.0.7