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He is very manipulative. And that is why he is a threat.

BEP suck. They are annoying and pretentious. They have no cred, and are the joke of the music industry.

In the right context, it makes sense. I've seen them and when I saw it here I knew exactly what it meant. Think about going to one of those state parks with the little booth as you go in to pay for a ticket. You're normally on a roadway that becomes a divided roadway into a parking lot with the booth separating the lanes. If you are trying to exit the lot (you're already in it), then such a sign makes perfect sense to avoid "going out the in."

mmmmm juicy!

The Entrance Only makes sense...if you are exiting, say, a state park or maybe a parking lot with the tire damage spikes...that sign could be very relevant.

You are really wearing thin.

I love the new Passat. I love the design, and the interior looks amazing. I'm a fan. I know what the prices are, and I don't think they are out of line for what you get.

I think Satty just has a sense of humor...something many on this board lack.

Why do you post on this site? I have yet to read any praise from you directed toward GM. Troll.

Is GM trying to kill Buick? "Super" as a trim level is absolutely retarded. Fire whoever approved that! "Reserved"? WTF is that supposed to connote? Laid-back and dull? Or "Exclusively for you"? Seriously, CX and CXL over those two any day of the year, including February 29th.

HAHA!

Classleading: having a product that is in some way superior to a competitor's. Toyota Camry is not classleading, rather it does everything well. Passat has a class-leading interior. Mazda6 has class-leading driving dynamics and handling. The only thing that one could say is even remotely classleading for the G6 is its hardtop convertible, but apparently it might not even make it to market... The point is, in nearly every GM product offering, there is nothing classleading about the vehicle. Corvette, GMT900s, and maybe one or two other vehicles could count as classleading.

I love the new VWs. So rich looking.

The point I was trying to make and I'm sure you understood was that GM needs MORE classleading products.

Whatever it is, they won't name it "Super" (thanks for askin').

^^what he said. seriously, from somewhere who's been there and done that...wallowing in self pity and being a drama king isn't going to do anything but make you feel worse. There are some things you can control and some things you cannot. I got this on an Ignatian retreat at St. Meinrad senior year of HS: Prayor for Starting Over Dear God, give me the courage to begin again- to overlook the difficulties, to overcome the obstacles and to stay open to the moment as best I can. Help me be patient enough to know it takes time to start over, and wise enough to ask for help from friends and family when I need it. As I look to the future, may I reflect on the past and remember the lessons it's taught me. And, God, may I always look to you for strength and guidance. I know you aren't that religious, but neither am I. Hopefully it'll help you out.

Well GM has been a big fat crybaby. For the last decade and a half! Fact is GM does not have classleading, superior product in many segments. Corvette and the GMT900s are really the only truly classleading vehicles in the GM stable.

No. Just no. Radical, but completely devoid of good business logic. You are not looking at the industry from a profit standpoint. GMC is pure profit, therefore don't f*** with it. Chevrolet is about to sell 3 million, therefore it doesn't need internal competition. Chevrolet competes with Toyota. Why should Saturn? I'll answer that: it shouldn't. Let Saturn specifically target upscale brands like Acura, VW, and Mercury, and if the product is good it will get conquest buyers from Toyota and Honda who are trading UP, not the same people in the market for a second or third Camcord. The problem is that you are focusing on competitng brands instead of market segments. Pontiac will likely be the part of the B-P-GMC trio that caters to the "youth vehicles" i.e. cheap, fun to drive, sporty, but not too well-appointed. If you want to think in terms of competing brands, then somewhere between Plymouth, Dodge, Scion and Mazda. Yes, I said Plymouth because those used Plymouths are still being sold. Buick is currently in a bit of an identity crisis. I don't think GM knows what it wants to do with it, and I see that as a problem. Personally, I think GM should take a two-pronged approach to the luxury market and sell Buicks and Cadillacs in the same dealerships, but different showrooms. The Buicks should target the Lexus/Jaguar luxury mentality of plushness and crypt-like quiet, while Cadillac should focus on BMW, Mercedes and Infiniti as far as offering more sporting cars with firmer suspensions. Cadillac takes more radical, flashy styling while Buick is more subdued and elegant. I think it could work if positioned right, though I doubt GM would be capable of that.

Ohhh I like it!

Yes, and I'll pay extra to make sure it's your favorite forest that gets chopped. :rolleyes:

Z28: is that really a sign somewhere? If so, you gotta tell me where!

She's in her late 40s...and no, it really doesn't look like she has the makeup caked on. Jeez, don't be so negative...she's a very hot woman for her age, or any age.

Sorry, but fuel economy is often a driving force in this segment. Why? Because they want the cheapest car possible, and that includes operating costs i.e. gas.

Next Steps in GM Turnaround Set More job cuts and plant closings coming to GM. by Joseph Szczesny (2005-10-18) Struggling General Motors Corp. has put the company's crown jewels on the auction block as part of a broader restructuring of the company that includes a deal with United Auto Workers to reduce healthcare costs and a new round of plant closings. Richard Wagoner, GM chairman and chief executive officer, disclosed that GM is prepared to sell a controlling interest in its storied and profitable finance arm, General Motors Acceptance Corp., which has been consistently been the most profitable part of the company for the better part of two decades. The decision to put GMAC up for sale was driven by the precipitous decline in GM's credit rating, which is likely to continue in the wake of the company's dismal third-quarter financial report. GMAC's credit rating was downgraded right along with GM's to junk status earlier this past spring, making it harder for GM's big finance subsidiary to raise money. Wagoner, however, didn't offer any kind of timeline for the sale and also suggested they want to review any offer carefully before moving forward. GM also will insist any purchaser operate GMAC as a stand-alone entity and enter in a close strategic partnership with GM's automotive business, he said. John Devine, GM's chief financial officer, noted for potential suitors, GMAC is a strong vibrant business and any new venture with GM will have to be bold. Nonetheless, the reduction of GM's credit rating over the past six months has shaken GMAC and forced the automaker to review its options, Devine said. Meanwhile, Moody's Investors Service, citing the potential for a shift in GMAC's ownership, changed its rating review status on GMAC to "direction uncertain" from a review for a downgrade. A "direction uncertain" indicates that ratings may be raised, lowered or affirmed. Ratings of GM remain on review for a possible downgrade, Moody's said. Fitch and Standard & Poor's also made nearly identical announcements. Wagoner also announced that GM's cost-cutting efforts will get a substantial boost from the tentative agreement with the United Auto Workers that will help reduce the amount the automaker spends on healthcare for both employees and retirees. "This is a huge move and we're glad to see it today,'' Wagoner said in a news conference at GM's Detroit headquarters at which the deal with the union was announced. "We believe it is clearly in the best interests of UAW-GM active workers, retirees and their families,'' UAW President Ron Gettelfinger and chief GM negotiator Richard Shoemaker said in very brief statement issued several hours after Wagoner's press conference. The changes are significant enough to announce that GM's future liability for retiree healthcare will be reduced by as much as 25 percent or $15 billion, Wagoner said. In addition, it also will reduce GM's annual cash outlay for health care by $1 billion annually, GM said. Neither the company nor the union offered any specifics about the changes to the proposed plan but it expected to include larger co-pays and deductibles for almost all kinds of healthcare services as well as well a reduction in choice. Wagoner also said GM is preparing to announce a major reduction in manufacturing capacity before the end of the year. The reduction in capacity will be in line with GM's plans to eliminate the jobs of 25,000 hourly workers by the end of 2008. Wall Street analysts had expected some sort of deal with the UAW and generally reacted positively to the news. However, some suggested the healthcare agreement may not be enough to deal with the challenges from nimble Asian automakers and huge pension obligations, which are expected to swell with the addition of Delphi's unfunded pension obligations to the mix. In fact, in return for healthcare cuts, the UAW appears to have won an agreement from GM to take on even more of Delphi's post-retirement liabilities. www.thecarconnection.com

Straight up...Paula is one sexy fox! Yea...I wouldn't mind waking up to that!