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Oh and republicans aren't desperate for votes like Obama thats why acron registers poor people whom live in parks. :AH-HA_wink: And who is Barack Obama to decide who is rich? Should we punish peoples sucess? BO will and that is class war-fare. Plain and simple.

Fact is two thirds of small buisness take in over 250K a year and his taxes would just kill them that is my point in all of this Obama will hurt buisness small and large alike and that is not good for them. If they are taxed more less money to pay wages and then less people can work for them and the more taxes a greater chance you loose your job Also how do you know or have any information on what my wifes place of work does. I know there situation you don't. Obamas plan is dangerous and rewards the folks whom don't work, under his tax cuts. Once again it is a shame they put him up and didn't put Hillary up whom had a plan for the economy or the guts.

You modified and mis-quoted me... Go figure. If you believe that more goverment is the way to go then drink up the koolaid just like the mainstream media aka MSNBC presents it. Just like they are right on the domestic auto industry. You mention the past 80 years I'd say they have been plenty darn good for most folks, wouldn't you? Our nation is safer than it was 80 years ago for sure, blacks and females have the same rights as any white American males. Yes McCain has been an Acorn function but McCain never donated 800K to the group that registers largely poor folks whom get played and told to vote for a person with the D behind there name. The problem in inflation my friend and ever 20 years or so this happens and we move on. Guess what American's have the solutions not the goverment with policy. Good old fashioned capitalism got us here and will get us out. Alot of small biz do take in 250K a my wife works for one with only 40 employees (many part time) and it is a few times that. So encourage buisness by lowering everyones taxes including compaines small and large alike to encourage job creation did you miss that? More taxes means less money to hire/pay people. So yeah if your what Obama defines as middle class you will have a nice tax cut and the people whom take the risks are getting screwed with taxes and forced to cut and fire, that is fine. The less goverment involvment the better off everyone is. Believe what you want but Obama is scary and clearly believes in socialism and that won't work.

Just for the record McCain isn't friends with domestic terrorists that said they wish they would have done more.

Lamar I like Huckabee also and Obama vs. Huckabee is a bigger jump than McCain vs. Obama.

I love the comments bringing back the middle class. McCains plans of cutting everyones taxes means more jobs for everyone, and therefore helping the middle class. Why you might ask? The more companys small and large get taxed the less money they have to spend on employees and wages. So when Obama gets in and raises taxes supposedly helping out the middle class and below sure you'll see money back and a greater possibility you won't have a job. John McCain has a record and a clear a record of working across the lines with people from the other party. One of the reasons I was so not ready to jump on the McCain bandwagon was because he is so moderate. I do find it funny lets bring back the middle class Obama will take away the middle class read into his plan it will kill buisness. For the reason I stated above, this country with Obama in office will swing so far left it isn't even funny instead of the balance we have today. Obama will have four years and a republican will win I can gurantee it. The country will be destoryed because companies have less money to pay there employees and therefore fire because they are being taxed more. Oh but wait that money will end up in 95% of Americans pockets but you will have a higher possibility of not having a job. If that is change we would get (and we would) I'd rather keep it the same. The other thing I find so funny is folks saying how alike McCain and Bush are that is complete horse-$h!. John McCain is no G.W.B. he is not a typical republican often times having upset his parties leadership. In 2004 Kerry even offered McCain the V.P. spot and the dems begged him to come over to there side. He didn't being a man of his word that shows how moderate and unlike G.W.B. he is. Barack's tax and spend policies scare me and of the 95% of American's he is cutting taxes is plain scary because only 60-70 percent of Americans pay taxes. So we would be giving back to the folks who pay nothing. Another example of economic re-distribution something Obama believes in just like socialism, take alot from the few rich and give to many. Obama's friends like Rev. Wright and Bill Ayers scare me as well and look whom he has helped like Acorn, training there people in addition to being a lawyer for them. Then he sent 800K to them as well, and Acorn in part can be blaimed for sub-prime problem preasuring banks/officals to loan money to folks whom could never pay it back. So when folks put it only on Bush that is crap people like Barney Frank and Chris Dodd all had hands in this. Seriously if your not scared of what this man would do like meeting with some of the most corrupt people in the world without pre-conditions that is just insane. Barack Obama is change alright and has voted 94 times to increase or to keep tax leaves high what does that say about his plan for the middle class? Or how about voting the increase taxes on folks making just 42K a year? Yup that is sticking up for the middle class alright. Face it you koolaid drinkers Obama is no JFK and JFK is the last dem I voted for. The party has changed and folks still vote for them because there is a D behind your name. If Obama gets in I have many fears and that is just a short list, and looking at his lack of a voting record voting present nearly 50% of the time and the other times he has voted it is the most liberal record in the senate and that is what the middle class wants right? If Obama gets in this country will head deeper into the $h!ter you just wait. If Obama's friends don't scare you, his voting record then his planned policies should. A vote for Obama is a one step closer to bigger goverment that will hurt buisness and the lessen the chances of growing it. A vote for Obama will ensure we are one step closer to socialism. A vote for Obama will ensure a change but not a change for the better. A vote for Obama is a vote a man with extreme values and beliefs. John McCain has had a clear record and has always put his country first honoring first in and first out when he was a POW. That says alot about the man so disagree with him about what you want but you know you can trust him. Where-as Obama does what ever gives him the most political gain so when it was helpful to have Rev. Wright on his side he used him and then dis-owned him. Go ahead vote for change but change can be a bad thing.

SmallChevy I won't be buying a Cadillac for sometime I owned one tho and loved it.

That is cool and I do hope that they change there mind.

That is just plain dumb and crazy it would help that bloody cafe crap too. You have Lutz's email? I would love to give that man a piece of my mind. :smilies-38096:

Here is the linky... Scroll down and you will see them trust me... Cadillac CTS-D Estate Wagon (EURO)

Glad to post the shots I'll get you the link to the full album and there are plenty other sweet CTS shots too.

Listen we do have things in common Oldsmobli you a great guy with a good taste in cars. So were not getting the diesel? I thought we were, maybe they'll chang there mind there is still time.

There is the badge for proof.

On GM Media in Europe they had tons of photographs of the new Cadillac CTS-D Estate Wagon with the 2.9L Diesel V6 Turbo and they were sweet. If I got any CTS it would be a CTS Estate Wagon and it prolly would have a Diesel as well but no AWD. Am I the only one drooling over this thing. So is anyone in love with this thing like I am... Of course I would rather have an STS V6 with performance package and Brembo brakes and summer tires or a DTS Performance. But the CTS Estate Wagon is pretty sweet.

Camino I agree with you on all of this. I watched many Olds customers go to Toyota/Lexus many a second gen Aurora sits used on a the Lexus lot 60 miles south of me. If Pontiac was killed even if the brand is slightly diluted customers would not go to Chevrolet or Saturn for sure, they would folk to Dodge or Nissan/Infiniti.

Trust GM would not under-price anything, to loose money on them give me a break. GM isn't that dumb.

Once again Camino is right.

That is sad and funny I wonder if it was an R/T. Caddycruiser that is funny that the old lady got a G8.

And the goverment getting involved prolly ain't any better.

Acorn is the bag for Obama. Obama helped them out they are a corrupt organization.

I personally can get credit I have called my bank. I understand that but I don't see how pumping money into this stuff will make it better, because banks still aren't loaning like they should. I had said let it crash and go from the bottom and build it back up.

Why would you want more goverment? To criple an already hurt economy, oversight is one thing but we can't count on the goverment to pump the makrets full of money on demand. Good ol' fashioned capitalism got us here and will get us out. Trust me and less taxes for everyone is a win-win. Not cutting 95% percent of Americans taxes being as only 60-70 percent of us pay them the rest is just a hand-out to the poor and that is fair because? Oh wait the top 5 percent should pay more because that is patriotic. Seriously small and large compaines alike create jobs and taxing them more which is what Obama wants to do would kill any possiblity for economic growth. We do need more oversite but not goverment saving us. I personally believe I can better spend my money than the goverment can. So I make it clear you can vote for more taxes on everyone and the folks that take the risks and create jobs or vote for less taxes for everyone, and give everyone more money in there pocket encouraging buisness and spending. Say what you want but Obama's plans boarder on socialism with his economic plans to rob from the few rich to give to the many. A true Robin Hood thing but honestly the poor and to a lesser extend middle class get played because more for us less for them. Yup that is the right attitude.

Palin isn't the problem it is the folks taking there economic problems solely out on Bush or McCain would be doing much better. Fun thing is in a FOX poll a clear majority thought less taxes and smaller goverment would help get us out of this and that was even said by democrats.

Agreed.

I could easily step up into an LT2 with RS package sounds like it would be under 30K. Giving the 23K starting price on an LS which is tempting.