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@Frisky Dingo You snooze, you lose Frisky...

@dfelt  @ccap41 Aston Martins are just pure class...Clark Gable, Gary Cooper, Fred Astaire.

What if the owners/operators of the speed tracks get a Tesla supercharger two at the track itself?

Food for thought..

You know....charging a Tesla after ludicrous quarter mile passes aint that big of a deal when some cars use the same amount of time to cool off...

I couldnt find a better pic, but it is common for turbo cars to sit out a couple of runs with ice bags on the intercooler to cool off to have better runs...

So....In my personal opinion, battery loss is a non-issue when in ludicrous mode at a race track.

It may be an issue on the open road and your foot is heavier than usual and your anticipated and calculated  range  falls short...

B-25 Mitchel

Or B-24 Liberator with the dual vertical stabilizers and the Fins of the Fifties...

But....modern fins as well

Either the SR-71

Or the F-117

With Lamborghini

OK...so...

A decade or so ago...I was an Oldsmobile kinda guy. If Oldsmobile still existed today, Id be buying myself Oldsmobiles...If I was alive in the 1950s and 1960s as a young professional, Id be buying myself Super 88s, Cutlass 442s and Toronadoes.   Gentleman's hot rods were made by Oldsmobile...

Seeing as this brand does not exist anymore, I tried to become an Acura guy. Well. Piss on me for that!

Be as it may...Acura does have one interesting car at this price range that Id buy. But, before I mention what that Acura  may be, I am also an Aston Martin kinda guy...I like to think myself as a gentleman. A classy debonair kinda guy and thank the lord Aston Martin still exists and I could play this game with pride!

Aston Martin DB11

OK OK....I know...I know...MSRP starts at $215 000

Don't you worry don't you fear when the Aston Martn Vantage still exists for 2016...

V8 or V12...does it look like I give a phoque???!!   (not very gentlemanly choice of words there...Bite Me!)

And then there is the Acura NSX that I wouldn't mind having.  Exotic Car for the discreet gentleman. Let us be it be clear with that...Aston Martin waaaaaay before the NSX Acura though. Dodge Challenger Hellcat plus Dodge Viper to attain the minimum requirement of 150 000 waaaaaay before Acura NSX....Got it? GOOD!

1 hour ago, ocnblu said:

Wasn't tryna piss ya off!  Please give me another chance. 

Does that answer yer question?

And on a related note when I was looking for a gorilla dominance fight with another gorilla gif (which I did not find), I came across this gif:

Even gorillas dont approve of human behavior. I think she thinks that that human baby is a bad influence on her baby....and she wants her kid to stay the phoque away from that badly behaving human.

58 minutes ago, William Maley said:

It's not just that. I have a lot of things on my plate at the moment and don't feel like there is way out for the time being. All I can do for the time being is put my head down and do the best I can with what I have in front of me.

Also, we all have days where we just lose it and do some stupid things. Unfortunately, I think that is what happened in the Escala thread that I had to lock down.

Well. I apologize for my behavior in that thread.  

As for your real life stuff: There are things you could control and there are things that are out of your control.

Take care of the stuff the best you can that are in your control and for the other stuff that you have no control over, just dont sweat about it. Manage the things the best you can. And yes, sometimes its best to take a couple of steps back for a day and the solutions just present themselves when you do come back. Taking a step back allows for the brain to reset and you think much clearer that way.

As for the thread being locked down. It was the right decision. It was going nowhere fast. Just chest thumping bickering much like gorillas do to show alpha male dominance...

15 minutes ago, William Maley said:

There are days where I find myself banging my head against the desk.

Today is one of those days.

I hope it wasn't because of me in the Cadillac Escala thread...

I know I don't help much when I do that and I try to limit that shyte on my end. Its just that I couldn't resist poking him the way he was poking us....and by us I do mean the innocent bystanders having to read that stuff.

I was a good boy in that thread up until I responded to him...and I haven't been in trouble with the law in a long time. 

OK...the crap with El Kabong a couple of weeks had nothing to do with CheersandGears, just a by-product of an old forum that has spilled in here since all of us came over here a couple of years ago

He was an all ally at first, but since then  he has soured me to the point where I cant tolerate the trolling on his end anymore either!  And I just told him what is on my mind. Came clean with my thoughts. Aired out the dirty laundry that he exudes.

Glad I got that off my chest. It was like a confession session.

How did I miss this thread?

Anyway...

In what context do we choose? As a daily driver? As a week-end toy car? As a garage queen trophy display car?

Either way, for me, the McLaren is a no!

daily driver: Cadillac CTS-V or even the Dodge Challenger Hellcat.

week-end toy car: Chevy Corvette Z06 or even the Dodge Challenger Hellcat.

garage queen trophy display car: Dodge Viper or even the Dodge Challenger Hellcat.

You know what?

The Dodge Challenger Hellcat is really the #1 choice for me!

1 hour ago, A Horse With No Name said:

I do not hate it, but for me the retro thing has grown old, even with the Gorgeous Camaro, Mustang, and Challenger.

Yeah.....Ive just about had it with retro looks too. Except maybe for the Challenger, I do need a substantial re-fresh on it though like the Mustang. The Mustang with me has another year or two left in the tank but.

No go on the Camaro.

2 hours ago, ocnblu said:

I'm shakin' in my boots there, Sparkles! 

Piss off yer wife and you will be pissin' in yer pants there Sparky....

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6 hours ago, Blake Noble said:

Condescending? You might want to re-read your post. If you think you're triumphing as the bigger person here, you might want to think very carefully about where you've been throwing stones first.

Now, I don't expect an answer to this question, and nor do I really care if you do answer: If you and your two cohorts were so highly skilled at sniffing out $h!-tier trolling, why couldn't you shut me down after just one or two posts?

(There was an easy way to do that.)

I'm going to give you the same advice I gave your friend: Do yourself a favor and just walk away from this discussion. Keep this thread on track and actually be the bigger person here. Again, there is nothing all that important here, nothing you have to prove.

 

I dont want to be the bigger person. I WANT TO STOOP DOWN AS LOW AS YOU! I NEVER SAID I WAS THE BETTER PERSON.  I WANT TO EMULATE YOU AND BE A JERK WITH YOU AS YOU ARE A JERK WITH US!!!!

I DID SHUT YOU DOWN....

EXCEPT TROLLS JUST KEEP TROLLING ON....I AINT A MOD TO WARN YOU, SUSPEND YOU, BAN YOU....

I'm going to give you the same advice you gave me: Do yourself a favor and just walk away from this discussion. Keep this thread on track and actually be the bigger person here. Again, there is nothing all that important here, nothing you have to prove.

 

2 hours ago, ocnblu said:

Well I love the 4.3... but EVERY OTHER MIDSIZE TRUCK has an OHC engine.  Also, none have an electric motor.  Way too girly.

If you mean "way too girly" as being: Hell Hath No Fury As A Woman Scorned, then yeah....electric powered cars and trucks could be really powerful and scary stuff....

2 minutes ago, balthazar said:

What is a 'Costco home'?
That synapsis above is a diametrically opposed description of me.
If I could snap my fingers and change my daily driver, I'd get something about 60 yrs old with inescapable patina. And a big block.

What I mean by 'Costco home'....

A home as big as a Costco. 4 car garage and a huge entryway in this case.

so middle class North Americans could keep up with the Jones-es and forever be indebted.

I sometimes get pissy this way as I sometimes serve jerks...

Who said that Tesla is fixing the quarter mile times that dont need to be fixed?

THAT is YOUR take on it....

REALITY is that Tesla IMPROVING their performance aspects of their sports sedan is no different from any other car manufacturer making their sports sedans or coupes faster. I guess Corvette fans should not have expected their C4 Vette to gain a LT5 or LT1 let alone all the performance advances 3 generations later!!! They should have been happy when the Crossfire V8 hitting 250HP....HEY! that was a helluva lot more horses than the smog era C3 right?  And the 1979 C3 if I remember correctly hit some sales milestones...

PLUS....315 miles on the P100. That is also an improvement...

The Model S WONT struggle to sell....

WHY?

Because the Model S has ALWAYS improved. Speed and range...

315 miles.

0-60 in 2.9 seconds...

PORSCHE, M-B, BMW all have a HELLUVA LOOOOOONG WAY TO GO BEFORE THEY EVEN REACH 3-4 year old Tesla Model S P60s let alone the P100...

16 minutes ago, hyperv6 said:

No one is forced but if you want anything good in the car you are forced to add many options that normally are standard on most other luxury cars. It is the same game Benz plays in Europe. They low ball the price and ala carte the options. In the end it adds up fast. 

Network expansion still has a long way to go and it has slowed. The Battery Swap fantasy has gone away. As for technology they all are working on it but yet no major gains have been made. Small but they all have yet to strike the big hit. Cost and charging times are the biggest hurtles to all makers and the one who cracks the code will gain the largest share gain. 

The Germans, like you said, play that game, same with Ferrari.

It is a game plan that works well for high priced, high profile brands. Not so much for the Chevys and Toyotas of this world. Tesla knows its customer base well and it serves their price strategy just right as there is a high demand for their cars. Cadillac on the other hand, needs to package their trim levels better so they dont get stuck with unsold cars on the lot and then discounting them.

Hyper, you make it see like this pricing strategy that Tesla is going with is a bad thing. It is only a bad thing if customers are not willing to spend their money on all the little things...I figure you see this as nickel and dime-ing people. Well, it could very well be that, but people are WILLING to be nickel and dimed. That is how powerful the Tesla, Porsche, Ferrari brand is....and a few others of course.

The network is slowing down?

Whatever....it wont be too necessary in the near future....Bob Lutz had this to say in a Corvette question/answer period of all things at RoadandTrack:

http://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a29598/bob-lutz-mid-engine-vette/

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Will world governments and the automobile sector ever reach an agreement on creating an actual infrastructure of hydrogen and electric stations for those who wish to embrace these environmentally friendly technologies?

Rick Trnka Winnipeg, Manitoba

 

BOB LUTZ ANSWER:

Probably not in our lifetime. Hydrogen is especially tough to transport and prevent boil-off. Electric vehicles will eventually be charged through embedded inductive rails in the freeway. Affordable EVs will have ranges of 400 to 500 miles in 10 years, obviating the need for a dense network of charging stations. Even with "quick charge" times of 25 to 30 minutes, several EVs showing up at once means someone will have to wait a few hours. That's hard to overcome. (I hear stories of Volt owners in charging queues being told to "buzz off; you've got gas" by the pure-EV owners.)

He raises another problem though regarding Chevy Volt owners that may help you on your side of the argument though...

The swapping battery fantasy has come and gone...well....the flying car fantasy has also become a myth...such is life with the automobile world. Many promises come and go in this domain.

17 hours ago, Blake Noble said:

OK... Look, I'm going to drop my act for a second here and give you a little advice. I hope you might consider it. And try and chill out. For your own sake.

My advice is as follows: This is the internet. Not every comment you read on the internet is 100 percent serious business.

It's great you've decided to invest your time on these forums. But I also genuinely hope that you don't take up sole residence here, or anywhere else online for that matter.

Take care of yourself. If you feel the need to continue this conversation, do yourself a favor and find the strength to just let it go. None of this is really all that important.

Now, as for the rest of you guys, how about that new Audi 200 Cadillac made for that car show all the rich douchebags go to?

So....you admit to trolling.

You also admit that the internets sometimes have less than truthful posts in them and you are a preacher of less than truthful posts....but in this thread you wanted to also be taken serious because you were posting your trolly shyte as a matter of fact all in the while being a condescending jack ass....

Yet you want people to heed your advice to chill out....while continuing to be a condescending jack ass.

Truth is, you started this mess, people got upset with you, they hinted at you to stop trolling, you did not heed their advice to you when obviously they smelled your shyte the MICRO-SECOND you shat on us and you are gonna sit here telling us to chill out?

HA!

Dude, we know (CP, Surreal and myself) what trolls smell like. We had plenty of practice sniffing the likes of you out! 

One suggestion to you:

If you gonna troll with us around, up your game big time because you are an amateur.

PS: usually trolly stuff could be quite funny and entertaining....

This shyte you spewed was neither funny nor entertaining.

I hope for Cheers and Gears sake and its followers that for the last 4 years you post in here that you are a better humorist and conversationalist that you have showed us in this thread (and in the Pokeman thread as well)......

In short: YOU SUCK!

9 hours ago, balthazar said:

I was tooling around the '63 Chrysler Turbine website. 
Chrysler actually lent out 50 Turbine cars to (IIRC) 203 volunteers, allowing them to drive the car for 90 days… as long as they agreed to keep a log of their usage/impressions. Unprecedented.

The site has a list of all the drivers, dates, miles driven, city/state, job, etc. I found this an interesting snapshot of the time period (1964-1966) :

38 yr old pharmaceutical engineer - regular car : 7 yr old Plymouth
38 yr old surgeon - regular car : 5 yr old Chevrolet
45 yr old industrial designer - regular car : 5 yr old Plymouth
55 yr old retired rear admiral - regular car : 13 yr old Dodge
52 yr old surgeon - regular car : 5 yr old VW 
38 yr old custom home builder - regular car : 7 yr old Merc
49 yr old VP of plumbing/heating Co - regular car : 3 yr old Plymouth
54 yr old bank president - regular car : 3 yr old Triumph
42 yr old orthaepedic surgeon - regular car : 6 yr old Rambler
44 yr old college professor - regular car : 10 yr old Plymouth
60 yr old foreign trade consultant - regular car : 15 yr old Dodge
34 yr old bank manager - regular car : 6 yr old Dodge
46 yr old high school principal - regular car : 11 yr old Chevrolet
44 yr old missile project manager - regular car : 12 yr old Ford
52 yr old A/C firm president - regular car : 7 yr old T-bird
49 yr old college professor - regular car : 9 yr old DeSoto           

Surgeons, professors, executives… driving Ramblers & Dodges & Chevys.

Today, we all want to drive the expensive cars. Not just 1 luxury nameplate, the whole family needs to have a luxury nameplated car.

We want MULTIPLE big screen TVs, huge Costco square foot home, many many tech gadgets,7 dollar latte coffees and all bought by Visa or Master Card @ 19-20-21% interest, then when that debt load gets to big we consolidate, and we go to a line of credit @ 7-8-9%  and when that debt load becomes too big we ask for a 2nd or 3rd mortgage on our house extending our right to pay off that Costco style home in about 80-100 years. And we bitch because we are poor and that our politicians don't do enough to secure our jobs at home because it seems that if we had a better paying job, we could just amass more credit too buy more useless junk...and we complain that an extra slice of tomato in a burger that the owner of the restaurant has to charge 50 cents is too much and we yell at him, for actually trying to make a living himself.

The Model S gets just more and popular as it ages...

That is kinda the reverse flow of how it is in the fossil fuel automobile world. The people buying the Model S seem to be relishing at the fact that it is indeed getting faster. While getting more range. Funny Mr. Fapturbo that you mentioned the Hellcat as muscle car fans, enthusiasts, is exactly what they are expecting of their muscle cars. Vette, Mustang and Camaro owner/fans too.

Faster, better, more efficient all the while still having a passion for the car, the brand and the nameplate.  That is what is happening at Tesla with the Model S. The Tesla Model S has become an Impala SS, a Pontiac GTO, A Ford Mustang, a BMW M3...It is an icon.

The Model S HAS to keep on achieving ludicrous speed in order to dominate the sales charts of cars costing $100 000, which in turn will fuel sales of the Model3 and  advance the charging infrastructure...

GM once had that from the 1950s all the way to the 1970s, even the 1980s.

Let us not be pissy just because Tesla found their groove and is emulating GM in that regard. (to have a loyal following that EXPECT their beloved GM cars to keep on blowing their minds each and every new generation!) GM is the one to fumble the ball.

Tesla was not even the one to pick it up. Tesla is a brand new team. An expansion team that so far, has made all the right draft choices and trades and is kicking ass in the standings, awaiting their first championship.

Fans are in the stands, the team itself still has to pay off its high falutin stadium, and yes, the stadium used city funds to be built, but dividends will eventually show. Anyway, the city prides itself with Tesla's colours and Tesla  is a fabric of the city and vice versa  Sure, not quite the Dallas Cowboys with 5 Superbowl vistories or New York Yankees 27 World Series or Montreal Canadiens 24 Stanley Cups being proudly flaunted but they certainly are a contender to win their first.

The Beach Boys version this tie around!

And we finish the night off with Trooper.

Good Night everybody!

Yeah, Pontiac does it better than both Olds and Chevy...from 1964-1967.

Especially 1966-1967.

But I still prefer a 1966 Olds 442.

The Pontiac is all grunt and muscle. Awesome! The Olds is the gentleman's hotrod! Perfect blend of grit and class.

But as usual, I prefer the Oldsmobile version.

The Malibu belongs in the Beautiful Automobile Appreciation thread.

Ill put it there  myself. You want something done right, you gotta do it yourself.

6 hours ago, dfelt said:

Seattle if you park without paying it is $89 dollar fine. Park without paying and leave it overnight, $259 fine and you have to call the PoPo to come unlock your ride.

Seattle has decided everyone needs to ride mass transit or a bike and as such has reduced greatly the number of parking spots on the streets forcing people to use the expensive $45 a day parking lots or just not come into the city.

Lucky for me, the company I work for pays for my monthly bus pass and I can get in and out on express buses to the north end. Minimizing my time in a idiot run city.

I feel you. Trust me.

Montreal was/is run the same idiotic way. With our new mayor....3 years already as our mayor, Denis Coderre, things are a tad better. He has put some pride in our city again. And that also means good governing. Maybe with some fanfare, but hey, Montreal was always a town with some spunk.

One thing with Montreal parking, especially Down Town and Old Montreal parking and other very popularbusy districts, there is no parking....there are only parking meters that are only good for 2hours in the Old Montreal/Down Town core that will cost you $6 or so and the parking lots are expensive....like $10 for 2 hours and then $30/$35 for the day. Either way, you are paying that $30-$40, at least they wont tow you anymore, like they used to. Maybe the parking ticket is a tad higher. The last Montreal parking ticket I got was in 2007 or so and it was $30.

They will only tow you in the winter when your car messes with snow removal.

2 hours ago, FordCosworth said:

Just saw my 3rd GT350. This one was red with black stripes, others being black on black, and grey with black stripes. 

This guy must have been in 1dt gear pulling 7000RPM...half hour later I still have goosebumps  

I think I've seen more Shelby GT350's than the new Camaro.

I havent seen any GT350s on the road yet in Montreal.

But then again, all summer long, I havent seen any Camaros either....

Maybe 2 Zetas a 1 Alpha 4 cylinder....

I literally have seen more Gen 2 Firebirds than I have seen modern Camaros.

I literally have seen more 1980s Fox Body Mustangs than I have seen modern Camaros.

No joke, those 1980s Fox Body Mustangs are everywhere in the Montreal region for some reason.