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Thanx for all that info. I knew Red Bull was a team. And I knew they had other engine builders in their young ownership group. What I knew was the partnership between them and Honda ended. What I just learned from your post a day ago was that Ford was their new partner. What I didnt know was Ford not needing approval. But since Red Bull was already an F1 ownership group, the slice of the pie wouldnt change no matter who Red Bull chose to partner itself with. I understood the slice of the pie getting smaller for the F1 owners, and I get and sympathize with the F1 owner's plight regarding that, but Toto Wolff, the Mercedes F1 boss' reasoning AND questioning what Andretti and Cadillac could bring to the table is asinine. Why? 1. Andretti (and Cadillac) would be the ONLY real LEGIT American Formula One team (there is 1 so called American team...but it aint so American...) and Formula One WANTS to EXPAND the US racing circuit. They want MORE races run in the US and they want MORE American fans watching these races... Andretti AND Cadillac WOULD expand their wishes EASILY. Andretti is an AMERICAN RACING FAMILY LEGEND not only in Europe, BUT ESPECIALLY in the USA. CADILLAC racing against Mercedes and Ferrari in Formula one? Are you kidding me???!!! Doesnt THAT excite American racing fanatics????!!!! If THAT doesnt excite American racing fans...NOTHING does... NASCAR has been invaded by Honda and Toyota lets not forget... American racing pride to go alongside IMSA's Corvette and...Cadillac no less would be GREAT for F1... 2. Cadillac has General phoquing Motors backing them up. General phoquing Motors... Of ALL the racing teams in Formula One now, General phoquing Motors has the MOST money to SPEND on racing engineering... And I guess THAT is another reason as to why they dont want. In no time Cadillac would dominate. 3. They question GM and Cadillac on how GM's (Cadillac's) tech could benefit...anybody. But I KNOW Mercedes knows that GM has Corvette Racing in IMSA along with Cadillac and GM has Chevrolet doing NASCAR and Indycar... And I know Wolff and Mercedes KNOWS that GM racing tech is LEAGUE leaging in ANY racing circuit. So to repeat...Mercedes has been winning in F1...Cadillac would in no time disrupt that winning. 4. Wolff questions Cadillac's engine building and questions why Alpine would supply Cadilla\c engines... Well...Alpine would only supply Cadillac 2 years. The time for Cadillac to enter Formula One and the time for Cadillac to get the feelz for Formula One racing... 5. I think Ferrari and Mercedes are both peeved and Andretti for reasons that I dont know... and are using those shytty reasons to block Andretti and not necessarily Cadillac.

I actually like the silhouette on this. Like I have stated plenty times already, it seems like OEMs are designing their CUVs to be more sedan-like. We maybe finally going away from the sport utility styling and back to sedan styling again. And I applaud ANY effort that does away with the crapastic classical CUV stylings. Change the type of headlights in the front for an LED cluster package system that we have today and the Eagle hasnt aged one bit... However...cant Toyota figure out how to do decent front ends? Honestly!!!

Im excited for this!!! I was excited for Cadillac and Andretti too. But that quickly deflated. I havent heard any news for THATannouncement, Im assuming the F1 owners REALLY dont want Andretti so they completely denounced him and went with Ford and Red Bull instead.

The footage not being the same as the audio really doesnt matter. Both situations are a testament to how awesome all three folks involved are. The footage pilot, the 17 year old pilot and her instuctor.

Intersesting tier GM will have set-up. Pouch for the upper level, to achieve higher ranges to differentiate with the lower cost EVs on cylinder. And...economies of scale for cylinder production so if and WHEN solid state becomes legit, transition to solid state with cylinder format could be achieved. best of both worlds to not only compete with Tesla, but SURPASS Tesla in monies saved, transition to solid state AND to achieve greater ranges for now as Tesla will be using the cylinder battery. Interesting indeed...

Its called a sarcastic post. Read it again, but keep in mind the sarcasm part. It will hopefully make sense to you, as an anti-Mercedes rant, and you could have a chuckle or two about it.

@smk4565 GM has learned a very valuable lesson... Cadillac is NOT phoquing around with their image anymore. You may NOT believe that Cadillac is serious about being legit. fair enough as it took them long enough to stop jerking around... But this time its truly legit. https://www.thedrive.com/news/gm-has-delivered-more-cadillac-lyriqs-in-january-2023-than-in-all-of-2022 This slow trickle of deliveries is not because of a lack of production, to be clear. As GM Authority previously reported, the Detroit automaker actually built 8,195 Lyriqs in 2022. The slow rate of deliveries is because GM allegedly wants to be sure that the vehicles, which were developed much faster than usual, don't have any widespread issues. That's part of the reason why the company ran its "Cadillac Lyriq Ambassador Program," which tracked the behavior of a small number of new buyers to evaluate early builds. This was done with the owners' permission, of course, and they received a discount on their electric vehicle as compensation. The production will be ramped up in 2023. There is a STRONG demand for the Lyriq. The Lyriq has sold out for 2023. Orders now are going to be delivered in 2024. The Jalopnik site says that Cadillac has got 21 000 sure orders but the interest for the vehicle is 250 000. Cadillac wants to convert 10% of that...so 25 000. Like I said...Jalopnik reports that Cadillac has 21 000 FIRM orders. But the Jalopnik article was written in June 2022. Cadillac is ramping up production and Cadillac has NOT specified the amount of production that the Lyriq will actually achieve. Maybe 20 000 untis will be delivered, maybe 200 000. We will have to wait and see what will happen and THIS time next year we will know... https://jalopnik.com/the-2023-cadillac-lyriq-is-sold-out-1849098857#:~:text=If you want to buy,to wait for the 2024.&text=We may earn a commission from links on this page.,-The 2023 Cadillac&text=It's official%2C the 2023 Cadillac,you're out of luck. The company has not revealed how many pre-orders it received for the Lyriq, but Automotive News reports that “about 250,000 people have expressed interest, with 21,000 so-called hot leads.” But 38 000 units sold for the Bolt, a last generation tech EV that has been introduced in 2017 that was deemed as a compliance EV that was too small, too ugly, too shytty to be a competitor to a Tesla is STILL selling in impressive numbers is not bad. Not bad at all.. The Bolt EV and EUV will be discontinued as SOON as the Ultium Chevys come rolling down. Again...not sure if regular people know this, but you and I DO know this because we follow car news. Ill repeat...38 000 units sold for a compliance, old tech EV is just icing on the cake for GM until the Ultium platform kicks in. Which is this year and full on 2024. Remember, GM's plan to cease and desist on ICE does NOT really kick in until 2030... GM got time. OH...you know that GM did announce an 850 million dollar next gen V8 investment. GM has got money to secure another generation of V8 pick-up trucks JUST in case the Ultium platform is not up to the task for pick-up truck duty... YOU read something negative in that... But I read that as GM has got deep coffers right about now and has enough money to NOT shoot themselves in the foot by NOT going all in, in EVs and forgetting that there is a cash cow market in the full sized pick up trucks. And...maybe...even IF the ultium platform COULD do pick-up truck duty, who says that the pick up truck freaks would WANT to buy a full sized EV? The SMART thing to do is to cater to the cash cow V8 pick up truck hillbillies for another generation. ICE vehicles arent banned and arent GOING to be banned in Texas or in Alberta anytime soon...

Maybe they could partner up with another OEM again, not quite struggling but emerging from a struggle just a decade before, call it a merger of equals, and...loot all their great engineering ideas and assets and then leave them to rot... Cant do it with Chrysler again because Chrysler belongs to the Stellantis group. Cant do it with GM as GM is a powerhouse. No need for a merger at this point in time. Cant do it with Toyota... Toyota has cash. Lots of it. Toyota's cash wont allow for a powermove like that to happen. If anything, Toyota will be the one using Mercedes as a call girl... Hyundai/KIA is not interested. That leaves Honda and Ford. Honda doesnt have anything of value...but Ford does. Hey...I got it! Maybe Mercedes could partner up with FoMoCo. Their aging G-Wagon could be based off the Bronco. Imagine the Bronco Raptor as a G Wagon!!! Their Sprinter vans could be merged with the Transit line. And...Mercedes could allow for the development of the next Ford GT...Mercedes could scuttle that program, say that American cars suck, cancel the GT program, take that engineering with them, make the next Mercedes SLS off that prgram, take all the Ford F150 future development plans and voila...Mercedes has a legit full sized pick-up truck to sell and have a cash cow for the next 20 years as they did with Chrysler and Jeep with the SUV craze...

Elsewhere in the world...sure. The Asian and European markets dont seem to be addicted to CUVs and SUVs as much as the North American market is. I think our North American market will detox from CUVs by going through the 'not quite CUV/not quite sedan' phase before going to full on sedans. This phase will probably last a good decade. 1 or 2 car platform generations... But elsewhere in the world, I dont think retro American land yachts will make the cut...

For sure. Ford DOES need more EV products and a more diversified portfolio. But like everything else Ford does, its all hush hush. The Mustang Mach E was a surprise. The Ford GT was a surprise. The F150 EV not so much but still. Both the Mach E and the GT, not only did it surprise literally everybody in the automotive world that they existed and were put to poroduction for sale immediately right after introduction, both products suprised everyone, including consumers as to how good they actually are. Im sure Ford has their other EV products close to their chest and when the time is right, they will come online. Ford does best when no hype is involved. The other hyped cars, the Bronco, the current gen Explorer, the last gen Fusion, all hype and rushed and all kinds of recalls. Mercedes is more of an engineering first company. Their cars are styled accordingingly. I shouldnt fault them for that. Not anybody else for that matter. But...doesnt mean I wouldnt want them to put a little bit of soul into them. I find that when they actually do, they produce some of the finest automobiles in history. When its just logic and math into their cars, their cars just become forgettable. And the EQS and EQE is just that...forgettable. I dont hate them, but...

I dont know what Chevrolet is thinking to do with Corvette branding. Its no secret that I like the idea of Corvette expanding its portfolio and from that becoming more of a brand within Chevrolet. But I am almost sure that Chevrolet has cold feet about that idea. Corvette is 70 years old. It took Chevrolet 60 years to move the engine from the front to the back. And that is a such a small move compared to making Corvette its own brand. And that was with Zora Duntov's idea 60 years ago... Yeah...I dont think Corvette is gonna do a SUV anytime soon. Tadge said so when they released the C8 that as long as he is Corvette's chief engineer a SUV is NOT part of the plan. Plans do change, but like I said, it took Corvette 60 years out of 70 to move the engine from the front to the back.

I really do want to go back in owning a Chevrolet again. If Pontiac and Oldsmobile is no longer around, Im more than happy being a Chevy guy. I like being a Ford guy, but technically Im an Acura guy as the Ford is my wife's car. And I dont mind being part of the Acura family, Im kinda over it. I really like to go back in being a GM guy. Or a Mustang EV guy. Better yet, that Challenger/Charger Banshee really speaks to me, but if Chevrolet could make a similar Camaro as that Banshee, Im back in being a Chevy guy. Chevy dont even need to call it a Camaro. Chevy could call it whatever they want, if Chevy can style an EV sedan with muscle car looks, Im in!

Im crossing my fingers that GM hasnt given up on Chevrolet and Buick sedans in the EV era.

Its weird to me that Elon hasnt twitted about any future products. He usually gets the fandom and the investors all giddy with talk of product. But he has remained silent. Unlike him. Sales havent gone down but market share has and the only thing he has done is...reduce prices, to get investor and fanbase interest. Favourable Telsa media all have said that that should worry GM, Ford and Stellantis but GM, Ford and the Chrysler part of Stellantis ALL have gone down THAT road SEVERAL times in their history and well...its just business as usual for them. GM recorded some pretty nice profits and the Equinox EV is just around the corner with plenty of other Ultium EVs to help with economies of scale including pretty expensive models so...I dont think GM is worried all that much with Tesla slashing prices. Stellantis in Europe is one of those OEMs that Tesla is losing market share to. Small amounts, but Stellantis is gaining ground nonetheless. Here in North America will be totally different, so there is that, but at least Stellantis in Europe is not worried about Tesla price drops... Ford might be in a pickle if Ford does not take care of those unnecessary expensive recalls... Sandy Munro is saying that Tesla's production costs are low. Lower than we think so Tesla's vehicles are more profitable that we know of... And he too says that GM and others should worry... I heard that Sandy Munro, an automotive industry specialist I once trusted, that Sandy once owned Tesla stock... There goes THAT unbiased news source... Ranting...but I dont personally think Tesla will maintain market share with just price reducing. Tesla cars visually, are old. Tesla tech might still be the benchmark, but Tesla style is old and THAT is a MAJOR selling point to people when tech is equal all around and EV tech from other OEMs are pretty close to Tesla's now. I agree. I kinda like it too. Its weird that I like it but I give grief to Mercedes for having 2 EV sedans equally soapy and ugly. Truth be told though, I dont necessarily hate the Mercedes EVs either.

Nothing Korean for me. Good cars, yes. But no thanx. Maybe this one if the tech is as good as a and on par or better than whatever else is out when this EV muscle machine eventually comes out. If not...when Ford decides to refresh and update this one. No need for the GT. This one is plenty EV for me. But then we have to see what the General will give us. Surely there MUST be a Chevrolet sedan-ish type of CUV called a Camaro kinda like the KIA EV6 or Charger somewhere that could tickle my fancy? My wife likes the Equinox EV. But we are not buying new cars anytime soon. While business is doing OK...life has gotten extremely expensive and both of us are really really in saving money mode. Vacations put on hold. Big item purchases as well.

Good-Bye Golden Jet. Rest in Peace!

- Wait a minute. Wait a minute Doc!!! Ah...are you telling me you built a time machine...out of a DEE TOMAH-SSSO???!!! - The way I see it, if you are going to build a time machine into a car, why not do it with some STYLE! Besides, the Ford 302 in it could actually propel it to the necessary 88 MPH to achieve time travel from the Flux Capacitor! Unlike the first attempt I tried it with that other piece of sh...(beep beep). Look out!

*sigh* Its NOT GM and the rest of the industry... Its the world's governments that have decided FOR the industry... Many many... MANY countries are BANNING and have already banned the internal combustion engine by a certain date in our not too distant future. And in 2023, that expiration date is coming quite quickly. In just a couple of generations of vehicular platforms. GM and others in the industry is just wanting to NOT be last to the party with this. For many many....MANY reasons. 1st to the party. Not to lag in the tech Not to be LAST to the party to not have the pants around the ankles... etc... We could be peeved at this whole EV thing all we want... We could lay blame on the industry and we could even pin in it on one specific OEM. We could NOT to that and we could be peeved at guvments trying to control us... All is fair game...I guess. But... *sigh* Unless a BETTER strategy comes along for our personal transportational needs, to continue to burn fossil fuels to power our personal transport pods is NOT the answer going forward. Are batteries and electric powertrains the answer? Who the hell knows??? But we DO know that to continue to burn fossil fuels is a DEFINATE path to human destruction. And batteries and electric motors at worst, is still a BETTER solution...for now. I do NOT understand why some of us canNOT understand this???!!!

Metallic emerald green is like the green equivalent of a candy apple red, red colour. An awesome colour choice Id say! Some youtuber MUST do this on their C8 and broadcast it so we could see what it does to the C8. Ive seen some Lambos with it and while its just OK, it totally works on hot rods!!! I like a dark green as well. British Racing Green on a Corvette, any Corvette does very well. And like you said, with a tan interior colour. Its classic. The cacti green, at least on the website, looks like pukey stuff. Ill hold unto that opnion UNTIL I see it in person. But the green interior that @David chose is nice. I like that. And with my eyes on my computer, the green does come out. I dont see any grey at all. Yeah, the green is not super clear on my computer screen, but I could tell its green. And I like that its a subtle green. On a lime green exterior, Id prefer the green on the interior be wild as well. But on a low key cacti green, its the way to go. But like I said, it doesnt seem that I would enjoy the cacti green.