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As consumers, we should be welcoming a brand that is giving us this many options. Yes, I personally, could care less about any convertibles but if you are in the market for a convertible MB has like 6 different vehicles available in convertibles and all three GM brands has two and one is pretty crappy in the Buick Cascada. They're not wasting yours or my money so I see zero issue with them having this many options. Cadillac has never had this many options across their brand. -
That is the absolute best part about Mercedes, they make a gnarly version of everything they make. I think every manufacturer wishes they had the diverse lineup Mercedes has while still making money. I hate their coupe SUVs but everything else is about what you'd want and expect from a premier luxury automaker.
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Exactly... RS used to mean sporty trim and now it's just an appearance package.
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What's the point of a sporty trim if nothing about it is sportier than the base model?
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The link worked for me.
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I bet if you asked those same people if they were okay with a 5-10% more expensive car they would also say they don't want that.. higher fuel economy numbers cost money.
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That's a pretty good looking car. I really like the rear end of it compared to last gen.
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Hyundai News:2019 Hyundai Kona Electric Has A 258 Mile Range
ccap41 replied to William Maley's topic in Hyundai
The Kona is almost an inch higher off the ground than the Bolt and that's why it looks more like an SUV rather than an awkward hybrid car/SUV/van. That should have been done first and it would have sold like hotcakes. -
I don't really expect it to die out any time soon. CUVs get too close of fuel economy to their similar cars now that even a gas price spike probably wouldn't hurt them, especially with hybrid and plug-ins on their way.
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Camaro, ATS, and CTS are all on the Alpha platform. Obviously with the CTS not having a coupe, they're not going to have a 4-door convertible so I get that.
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The bigger brakes, closer ratio transmission, and wider wheels/tires would be of the main selling points to the GS for me. I wouldn't care quite as much about the Z's body work. Personally, I see that on both sides of the coin. 1: A more spartan interior makes it more of a driver-oriented experience and less focus on the soft-touch materials and overall quietness and refined interior. Just drive to drive. 2: why wouldn't I want a nicer interior?
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Oh I definitely agree that we will almost never extract 100% performance from any of the above three cars but there are things that I would prefer over the base model in the GS like: "(spring rates, closer ratio manual transmission gearing and shorter axle ratio on the automatic), and Z06 bits (front and rear fascias, hood, anti-roll bars, brake rotors and calipers, wider tires and the bodywork to cover them). The dry-sump oiling system from the Z06 and ZR1 is also fitted to manual Grand Sports, which means these special motors will now be hand assembled alongside their big-brother stablemates, the LS7 and LS9 engines, in Wixom Michigan, each by a single technician who will sign his or her work. The only major parts they had to tool up were the front fenders, which feature double-gill cove styling and are made of RIM plastic like the base car's, the rear quarter panels, unique new wheels, and the actual springs and dampers, which are tailored to the GS's unique weight and characteristics (they ride almost exactly like the old Z51's)." A Grand Sport would be a great all around sports car and it's "only" 436hp/428tq.
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They already have the Camaro convertible. If they didn't have that, I would agree much more and it would make sense not to drop a lot of cash into a small segment. You're missing the E-Class "cabriolet".
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I get it because if they can start making more cash from the CUVs it can fund the coupes but it sucks they aren't here and haven't been. When was the last time they had two coupes at the same time?
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Yeah but is it that much to cut up an ATS and/or CTS for a premium selling price? These are luxury vehicles and a convertible option is definitely a luxury that all of their competitors offer. I don't expect them to have a bunch of convertibles offered in all of their coupe offerings but it's still odd that they don't have even one. I don't always think it is about the sale of the vehicle itself as much as it is getting somebody to the dealers' lots. If somebody drives by a lot and sees an ATS convertible and goes and checks it out but ends up in a coupe or sedan.. yeah they didn't sell a convertible but they got somebody to stop and look at their products.
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There are definitely 2010-2013 Grand Sports available under 50k miles and 08-09 Z06's available with under 50k miles as well. '08 Z06 '13 Grand Sport These are just quick finds but there are both that can be found with either more miles and 30k or less miles and over 35k but there are plenty under 35k available. Both seem like hella performance for the dollar.
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I just now read "base" in your description and I think if it was a base C6 I would take an '18 Mustang GT over it.
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This is tough between the Vette and Mustang.. for 35k I assume that'd be a Z06 as well? If it was a Z06 it would be difficult to pass up compared to a Mustang GT. If not a little older Z06 the Grand Sports are plentiful in the sub 35k range. I don't recall what all makes a Grand Sport but I bet it has some good sports car goodies.
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Yeah, I don't really understand that either. They have a Camaro Convertible so why can't they hack up a ATS or CTS into a convertible?
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They do the same thing just with different brands instead.
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Drew made it sound like it is stupid to compare the ATS to the C Class.
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In all fairness, when it came out it was absolutely a direct competitor to the 3 and C.
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What size is that, again? Is that X1/GLA sized or X3/GLE sized? Or, more than likely, is it in the middle? lol
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This is where I got mine from.. ?♂️ https://www.statista.com/statistics/287722/entry-luxury-vehicles-sales-by-make-in-the-united-states/
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3 & 4 Series sold 99,083 in 2017 C Class sold 77,447 in 2017 ATS sold 13,100 in 2017 It's definitely not 3:1 3/4:C It's technically 1:0.78
