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Since you wanted to bring up profits, I though I would share this article with you which explains in very good detail why GM's profits are behind companies like Toyota. Inform yourself. http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2015/05/09/why-cant-general-motors-earn-profits-like-toyotas.aspx -
Now provide us with GMs total cost of operation and then you might have a convincing argument. That is only sure way to support your assertion about GM and their profits. Until then, more goal post moving and more BS quite honestly.
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Exactly my point.
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not getting help from the Japanese Government... not to mention improving their line-up in a way that produces superior vehicles.. Toyota on the other hand.. not so much. Even their flagship Prius Hybrid is falling behind the competition in terms of.. wait for it.. wait.. TECHNOLOGY VW made $11.9 billion in profit in 2014. $9 billion more than GM on roughly the same number of sales. Audi alone generates more dollars in profit than all of GM. GM needs to put a bigger focus on Cadillac, they should have a bigger line up and get more new product than Buick and GMC combined. And they are getting burned for their profiteering aren't they? How's that profit going to look after the dust settles on the diesel controversy? Stop trying to move the goal posts when you don't understand the game being played.
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Man, being a Panthers fan is stressful! Even in victory, they have to make me sweat!
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They used to have ZERO FWD models and it's real easy to pad your "18" count when you want to include every variant of each main model. 12 to 3 if not counting model variants or the vans. They used to have zero but the world changed, and one of their fwd cars is a compliance car to meet electric car regs. And the front drive is at the very bottom of the brand. It isn't on their flagship. The FWD GLA is not electric. In fact only one out of the three FWD MBs are electric so that little excuse does not fly. There are other reasons for them doing so but I understand that you have to come up with whatever excuse you can to justify your favorite make having what you would normally detest from anyone else. BTW, a world a difference between a $50K Lincoln Continental and $100K+ (in most trims) S-Class that it DOES NOT COMPETE WITH. Don't why everything from everyone else has to measure to an S-Class, even when said car does not compete with it. Did you read my post? I said "one of their fwd cars is a compliance car to electric requirements." The B-class is only sold in like 10 states even. The CLA gets 38 mpg, they need it for CAFE, and it is a 208 hp sub-compact car, to which you don't really need rwd for that sort of car. And the Acura, Volvo, Golf GTI crowd they are competing with probably prefer fwd. I personally don't like the CLA or GLA, but them sitting on the lot doesn't offend me. I don't think people dislike a Corvette because Chevy also makes the Spark. If you like the Corvette, you aren't going to care what other cars are sold on the same lot. I know the Continental doesn't compete with the 2016 S-class. I am saying the Continental is behind where the S-class was 13 years ago. And I reiterated that because mentioning that it is electric has NO bearing on FWD application of the other two FWD models that are not electric. It's those endless excuses that you grant for Mercedes that you don't give for anyone else that is the problem with you (as well as your constant goal post moving. Again, if you know the Conti does not compete with the S Class, then why bring it up from any time period? It makes no sense and it's just another shameless attempt on your part to dog anything that is not Mercedes (or even German for that matter).
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Don't be daft... different types of cars. Why should a buyer be asked to pay $60k or whatever the Continental will cost for a chassis and drivetrain inferior to a $30k Mustang? This is why Volvo S80, Lincoln sedans, Acura RLX, don't sell, why DeVille/DTS sales tanked into cancellation of the product. People don't want to spend big bucks for a car with garden variety front drive, 6-speed, transverse engine, etc. If I were going to pay $60k or more for a car, I'd want performance, handling and luxury. Or imagine if Honda was going to make a full size pick up to compete with the F150 and Silverado, and the Honda full size pick up was front wheel drive, with all wheel drive optional, 3.5 V6 and a turbo V6 option. Would the truck buyers used to V8s and rear drive body on frame want a unibody fwd honda full size truck? No, it would get laughed out of the segment. Good lord. What is with your pointless comparisons? Based on your logic, why would anyone buy an accent bones G-Wagon when one can get a just a capable (and far more comfortable) GLK for half the price? See that? That's your logic right now.
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They used to have ZERO FWD models and it's real easy to pad your "18" count when you want to include every variant of each main model. 12 to 3 if not counting model variants or the vans. They used to have zero but the world changed, and one of their fwd cars is a compliance car to meet electric car regs. And the front drive is at the very bottom of the brand. It isn't on their flagship. The FWD GLA is not electric. In fact only one out of the three FWD MBs are electric so that little excuse does not fly. There are other reasons for them doing so but I understand that you have to come up with whatever excuse you can to justify your favorite make having what you would normally detest from anyone else. BTW, a world a difference between a $50K Lincoln Continental and $100K+ (in most trims) S-Class that it DOES NOT COMPETE WITH. Don't why everything from everyone else has to measure to an S-Class, even when said car does not compete with it.
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They used to have ZERO FWD models and it's real easy to pad your "18" count when you want to include every variant of each main model.
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I swore there was something I heard the other day about glass houses Casa...
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This is one of those comments that I want to "like" but at the same time "hate" because it is true. I want to show that I agree...but hate it.. Ya know? One of those confusing posts like "my Grandma has cancer" on facebook. You want to show support by "liking" but you don't actually LIKE that she has cancer... Okay enough rambling. You get my point at this point! And that point waaaaaas....(just kidding. you get what I was trying to say there).
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VW News: As the Diesel Emits: Volkswagen's CEO "We Didn't Lie"
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No one has to accept fault anymore folks. That's what lawyers are for these days.
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I'll take that Avista please, all day and everyday after. The Volvo is very sharp as well (never thought I'd say that about a Volvo)!
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Oh lighten up Olds. It was merely the first thing that popped into my head. I know what they have used in the past. It was mostly because my neighbor has the exact same Azera as whats in the pic. Good grief people.
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Actually this is what I thought when I first saw the taillights. Ah, i see that haha. I was thinking more that in some of the photos it appear to ave a lighted LED strip going around the taillights like the Charger and he Dart. A combination of the two perhaps lol.
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Actually this is what I thought when I first saw the taillights.
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That's kind of my issue with it. It just doesn't "click" for me when it comes to the exterior of it.
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I know there will be more choices than blue. That is obvious. I just don't care for it in blue. That is all.
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Bad color choice is what hurts it I think. That 80s blue just won't cut it IMO. Some different color combinations would be nice. I actually LIKE the blue, lol. It's the shape and location of the contrasting silver bits, and the overall sculpting and shape of the interior I don't like. Yeah, the silver is a bit much and it doesn't work very well with the blue. Looks too "1980ish" to me. The overall design is sharp though IMO (save for a few tidbits).
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Again, that is pretty much supporting my "boring" assertion. Why would one make a boring looking car just because the rest of the competition does? The point is to stand out, not blend in. That has been Lincoln's problem for far too long and this does nothing to change that (at least on the outside). It does offer a solid powertrain though which could be its saving grace but I still don't think that it is enough in the grand scheme of things.
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Hey man, different strokes for different folks, and I respect your opinion of it. I can see why it some people would not like the continental interior. I'm guessing Rhapsody Blue isn't to your liking. What would you like to see instead, though? Stating that it doesn't face any stiff competition in exterior design is pretty much confirming the boring design of it IMO. You don't set the bar in accordance to the "boring" designs of the competition. You set it above and beyond the competition. Just my opinion though.
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Bad color choice is what hurts it I think. That 80s blue just won't cut it IMO. Some different color combinations would be nice.
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The interior is definitely the high point. I just wish the exterior matched the "pop" of the interior.
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Very nice on the inside but the exterior already looks dated to me and that's a shame. I had better expectations, design wise, for this.
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