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Out of production and cars still for sale are two completely different things and you know that. There is no 2016 Z/28 and Chevrolet is just selling the remaining 2015 Z28s still on dealer lots.
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The Focus AWD system is developed by a third party supplier called GKN ... it is not a Ford developed technology. In fact, the same system is apparently the new AWD for the LaCrosse and XT5.... so yeah. True but Ford still put it in the Focus RS first, which baffles me honestly. Oh, and I guess there shouldn't be a whole lot crowing about Vector Torquing AWD on a Lincoln when the competition has the exact same thing. It is not a "forum myth". It is an automotive fact that some fans don't want to accept. It will indeed be a bright spot in what sounds like an exceptional performance luxury value. That also happens to be used by the competition.
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There is no surprise that the new GT350R beat the outgoing (and no longer in production) Z/28. It is a top notch drivers car that is oodles of fun on the track and the road. Going to be great to see what Chevy counters with in the next year or so. The SS is already close to that to begin with.
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The fact that Lincoln is "borrowing" anything from a Focus (even one as nice as the RS), as opposed to it being the other way around perfectly illustrates part of Lincoln's, and by proxy Ford's, problems.
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The Continental will be sold with AWD for the record. Also for the record the Audi A6 comes in front and AWD and sell well north of $50K so don't act like it can't be done while you dog everything that is not German.- 171 replies
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So much for the so called betting experts favoring the Cowboys just because Romo was back. Well they were half right on one thing though. He did make a difference. Problem is that he made a difference for the Panthers courtesy of two pick sixes. Rushing for squat doesn't help the cause either. So much for that vaunted Dallas front line. Go 11-0 Panthers!
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Don't blow a valve cover now Bong.
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surreal1272 replied to William Maley's topic in Lincoln
Again, not even close to reality. Every option from the navigator would push it far north of $60k and as it has been said a thousand turns already, Ford will not do the "losing money" on any car, much less a more than $10K loss per car. There are far more effective ways to improve that brand than becoming a price bottom feeder.- 171 replies
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In fairness, we were just pointing out the design issues with the MKZ before someone decided to make things personal. Maybe we could start with removing the GT350 talk from here as well?
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Of course, what was I thinking, pick it apart all you like...... yet talking up a FoMoCo product more than once will cause many (including yourself) to bring out the claws and criticisms. Imagine that Yes, heaven forbid someone criticize anything made by Ford or Lincoln. Shame on them for not sharing your unwavering love of a company you just happen to work for.
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You used them as a luxury example while ignoring their luxury price, which is far north of $49K, which is now $3K more than what you stated earlier as the baseline. Arrgh? Really Sauve? The loss that SMK is asking Ford to take, based off of his own criteria about it being nicer than a $90K Escalade, is beyond unreasonable because basically he thinks Ford/Lincoln should build this $80-90K Lincoln and sell it for $46K (sorry but his $10K loss claim would not meet the luxury criteria he made for this mystical Lincoln so). Sorry, but NO company has done that and a profit driven company like Ford sure as hell won't do that. The big fix for them is just making Lincoln more unique and given them something that Ford itself doesn't have. Again, the sell at a loss argument just won't fly with Ford, nor anyone else for that matter. Let me make it clear Suave, that I am not ragging on you here. Lincoln has issues beyond belief, despite what their fans may say but selling at a price loss is not the short term solution to a long term problem. Sorry, I meant the expression as the disgust of how I actually think of the Lincoln situation, not as a dismissal of your argument. No worries. I know that I can come off a little too direct. I can certainly understand the disgust.- 171 replies
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Arrgh? Really Sauve? The loss that SMK is asking Ford to take, based off of his own criteria about it being nicer than a $90K Escalade, is beyond unreasonable because basically he thinks Ford/Lincoln should build this $80-90K Lincoln and sell it for $46K (sorry but his $10K loss claim would not meet the luxury criteria he made for this mystical Lincoln so). Sorry, but NO company has done that and a profit driven company like Ford sure as hell won't do that. The big fix for them is just making Lincoln more unique and given them something that Ford itself doesn't have. Again, the sell at a loss argument just won't fly with Ford, nor anyone else for that matter. Let me make it clear Suave, that I am not ragging on you here. Lincoln has issues beyond belief, despite what their fans may say but selling at a price loss is not the short term solution to a long term problem.- 171 replies
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So what you are saying is that Ford should just lose money on a brand that is just now making them money? The face I am making right now is one of pure laughter.- 171 replies
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You do realize that your price to luxury ratio (given your stated expectations by wanting it to be nicer than a $90K Escalade) has about a $40K gulf right? Hyundai can't do so I sure as hell know Lincoln can't at that price. That is simply pulling numbers and expectations out of thin air SMK. Could Mercedes do that for $45K?- 171 replies
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C/D Tests Bentley Bentayga. They Are Not Horrified.
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Must be why Aston Martin hasn't grilled Ford too hard.
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itemizing each opinion does not change the fact they were all risks to a degree. And as far as the definition or risk, I would say that following the Germans lock-step is hardly a risk. Lmao. You have provided no reasoning behind YOUR itemized list of "risks" and now you offer no rebuttal to my counterargument. I also see Drew has responded to your list in similar fashion. You've made it abundantly clear you do not understand risk in the automotive industry. In fact, just about every move Ford makes with Lincoln is done to MINIMIZE risk: -sharing platforms and powertrains -testing any new technology on the Ford brand -focusing on the highest profit luxury segments -abandoning the unique split-wing design for the new derivative luxury mash-up design Exactly. How is it a "risk" when they were never the first one in any of those developments he mentioned? Maybe he is confusing "risk" with "hey, let's follow Acura, Cadillac, and Lexus lead and put out a rebadged CUV and call it the MKX".- 171 replies
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Camaro? Wrong thread Maybe you should read the entire conversation leading up to that statement before making silly accusations.- 171 replies
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Says some. Truth is, when 700,000 people roll through NAIAS snapping a gazillion cell phone pics, they will all include one design language for sedan. Nobody, except us ridiculous forum dwellers, cares which was 6 weeks in front of the other. Says everyone who doesn't work for Ford, or else you wouldn't be making 500 different excuses for that very fact.
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surreal1272 replied to William Maley's topic in Cadillac
False. Globally, Cadillac sales are up 16%. In the US, sales are flat but average transaction prices are up $7,000 per unit over the last 12 months... and that's after a huge jump in the prior 12 months. Escalade transaction prices are up $20k over the previous model. Selling the same number of vehicles but at a $7k increase in price is a really good position to be in. Yeah, well, if we are suddenly talking global, then Lincoln is REALLY up. But flat = 'nowhere' in the US. In fairness, Lincoln had nowhere else to go but "up" so a bit of a misleading statement to make there.- 45 replies
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While their profit has increased for the last several years as well. Gotta suck when that happens. Thanks for saving another down vote for me. For someone who trumps up profits so much when it comes to Ford, it sure is sweet irony that you would down vote the same kind of statement when it is NOT about Ford. Fact is that while volume is down, profits are up for Cadillac. maybe you were downvoted for another reason. ATP's and the price of lettuce in China has what to do with the fact that customers are flocking to CUV's, and Cadillac is behind the development 8-ball there. That's a simple fact. So you were just trolling then. Thanks for confirming that. Again, when it comes to ATPs and profits from Ford, you rah rah rah it all the way home but when it comes to anything NOT Ford, you sidestep, deflect, and make lousy excuses for it. Drew has already pointed out those facts very well, that you have willfully ignored.- 45 replies
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It's like you completely ignored the previous pages explaining why going the full size hybrid truck route is difficult as well as pointless, as far the truck market is concerned. -
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He was replying to my statement about Cadillac's profits being up.- 45 replies
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All I am gong to say is this. Google is your friend. Nothing else needs to be explained to you.- 45 replies
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