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That, and someone who can find a way to make people here respect our country and not whine over everything.... It's good to be different, but we need a common goal....

I could agree with some of that....though: Ford may hang on If the Koreans keep the prices low, they have a good chance in increasing market share...

Yep. Circuit City Old Navy Gateway Sears Hardees Nextel K mart Linens and Things Reebok These are just a few that I think will be gone in a matter of a few years....

Ball Park Ooo...baseball!

Agreed, camino. While this is a good topic, dude, is it ever getting rehashed....

GM is not going to be able to compete in every market with Toyota. Just the important ones (midsize, compact, etc), and their strengths (trucks), and get out of the declining markets(SUV)

Actually, people DO buy their cars like washers..... How many people just buy that LG washer because CR says so, or beacuse their neighbors have one? A buttload of people buy their Toyotas the same way. Granted their "safe " choice may be a costy one....which is why the Korean automakers are doing so well. So GM is not going to be able to sell on benchmark, or on price. So they have to be different.... Though I really agree with the mainstream comment.. That is why the Mailbu is doing better...

Interesting...

While some of that is true-it does offer one benefit that Toyota doesn't- Flavor. While there are people who buy a car like they buy a washer, some people still like to have a choice in what you buy. Don't like a look of the Camry. Too bad. Don't like the new Malibu? Try an Aura? Not your cup of Tea? How about a nice G6? GM doesn't have to beat the Camry-but be as close as possible. GM's niche, if the want to keep their brands, is to offer different solid cars to the comsumer....have a little overlap, but not Trailblazer crazy. And use those Global resources, and Turbo mentioned. While there may be nothing wrong with buying that Consumer's Report darling washer, someone might want that washer in blue. That has 20 settings instead the other washer's 10. You get the idea.

Hmmm...have to look this over....

That's why you buy an old pickup...

And a lot newer....

Come on Reg, they are a little different. Honda does a pretty good job...and Subie... How Toyota on the other hand....wow. I just saw a few mini-Camries the other day.....

But there is a bigger factor here: Gas prices. No regular "joe" is worried about performance when he can barely afford his own gas. And there are more and more "Joes" out there every day. It comes down to this: Are you more worried about "image" or "great history", or are you more worried about getting from point A to point B? I guess we will see....

Yep, changes quick...

Agreed. If you are not even going through a 1/4 of it at all, I wouldn't worry about it. Only if you notice coolant level dropping would I even worry about it. If she's running good, you should have plently of time.

Very cool...

+1

Yes and no (with agreeing with you) The good thing is that Pontiac offers well priced cars that are good on gas. But they offer little else. Though if the G8 does become a hit (with a play of "muscle"), it could help Pontiac start some kind of image that people can relate to. Without that- they pretty much have the same image as maybe Kia- just another bland choice at a discount....

Volume? Pontiac? Really? Living in GM land over here, I see quick a it less than I used to. If gas prices keeping jumping, that could be the saving grace for the G6, G5, and the Vibe. I would be surprised If the g8 does not end up as another GTO issue.... Granted, this coming from someone who loves the G8.

Agreed. Anyone I knew who had a K car had issues with it... Not to go too off topic, but I don't think Chrysler has had a good compact..period. Breeze, Neon....though I have to say that Shadow (in it's many forms), seems to have broken that mold. I still see quite a few out there...

Well, now that you mention luxury cars....