regfootball

if he drove it........... you know......i think blu is secretly lusting after a NEW TOYOTA VENZA!!!!!!!!

who hasn't been here lately

we all know that blu really wants to drive that g8 gt instead of the vibe. he just can't bring himself to drown in the v8 thunder. the vibe is his way of knowing its ok to set foot on the pontiac lot...LOL

i thin what people would suggest is that CA tries to ram this clean air $h! down the US throats but has far too many folks who live in excessive homes, which is hypocritical. it would make sense to tax those folks first before attemtping to sabotage the auto industry at the expense of everyone else in America's pocketbooks.

c'mon BIZ, we know about the volume bonuses and holdbacks....the dealer gets more money in the pocket than just sell price over invoice. it just doesn't show up at the time of sale. dealers sell cars at '300 above invoice' so they can get the other bonuses later.....or to be able to have the ability to order and sell other higher profit vehicles that are hot. by the way, i have seen many new Auras crop up lately. must be the 4 cylinder and the driftover in interest from the BU. 3 new auras in the work parking lot alone. re: accord vs. malibu.....the accord really blew chunks on the interior and exterior, but the packaging is darn near perfect for such a light car. the space compared to the epsilons alone is my reason to look accord first before any accord. only the fusion and galant compare tit for tat on space with the new accord.

actually, i think saab would gain major mojo if they built models in Canada.

saab needs a volume car, absolutely.....one reason why i say saab needs a couple models to fall in between vw and acura, something to compete with jettas and passats up through the tsx and tl. saab can never be a BMW beater, and it doesn't need to be. cadillac is evolving hopefully to compete more with bmw, but saab should not be saddled with the weight of having to match BMW tit for tat. Saab still needs a game changing 9-5 that should totally kick ass but i don't think the 9-3 needs to go directly against the 3 series. if the 9-3 were more stylish and a better performer than the tsx and passat for a similar price, maybe saab would get somewhere. a 9-1 or 9-2 priced right could really clean up against all the overpriced minis and c30's and a3s and decked out GLI's. not every single car maker has to be compared to BMW. or be priced as stupidly. a 135i for 43 grand? nice, but good luck with that. plus, if saab sells models that do not cross over with cadillac they nicely coexist in the showroom together.

i think i still like the aura better than the malibu. these are good changes. any improvements to the BAS like on the vue?

BLUETOOTH? USB? HMI? can you voice activate the music player ala sync? power pedals on my 500 are the bomb. it would be hard to get another car without them. stabilitrak standard now, but even the 09 focus has advance trac standard too, so this is becoming universal. WHERE'S NAV!?!?!?!?! LOL

the good beef jerky i get at the grocery store isn't even from the US....it's from brazil or God knows where.

at least test the HHR SS in the meantime!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/motor/nasca...sh-toyota_N.htm ah toyota, you wanted to be top of the hill so bad, well all this press is what comes with it.

read winding roads review of the g8......aurora had 25hz chassis stiffness.....g8 is 55hz....over 2 times as stiff (some of you may like that!) anyways......crash safety and rock solid feel take precedence in this country....and there is only so much high strength steel or aluminum they can be willing to pay for too. the vault like chassis that mags have been praising for good steering and suspension, that is how you get it. what are you gonna sacrifice? Look under the hood of a nissan rogue and look at how flimsy all the brackets etc are. now look under the hood of a NA designed domestic car......stout components. lean agaist the rear fender of an altima and feel it flex. now lean against the fender of something else. you can only remove weight down to a point. i am sure toyota did that with their tundra tailgate. the vue weight is out of hand, but i don't think the g8 is all that much, considering the length, wheelbase, and track dimensions. the g8 is a LARGE LARGE car! v6 g8 for those who don't want to get in trouble with the 360hp + especially in winter.

pontiacs have always looked good in white, to me, albeit those are relics from the cladding era. these stories of dealer markups are disturbing.

http://blogs.motortrend.com/6237293/editor...down/index.html

he's right.

Japan Inc decided it would be best for world domination to let toyota specialize in hybrids and let Honda diversify into other technologies to a greater degree, in key markets.

staceface, needs to show some face here

no, i am saying Japan told toyota they would do the hybrids and Honda won't, as much.

OK, give us a car make and model and tell us if you think the car is 'male' or 'female'. It's that easy! I'll start VW Eos - FEMALE VW Tiguan - FEMALE Pontiac G8 - Male Chrysler PT Cruiser - FEMALE Chevy Malibu - FEMALE Ford Fusion - Male and some, it's not so clear, or you think different. Let's have some fun with this!

thanks for dropping by, you non-poster! j/k how bout some of the ladies who haven't posted for awhile, c'mon, at least stop and show C/G some love!

ok, it's not what you think! LOL this is the thread where those C/G'ers who haven't posted for a long time, can post in this thread and let us know you're alive.... so come on out and let us you know you are still here....!

so, japan paid for hybrid synergy drive. and honda got screwed because now they give up on the accord hybrid and have to go diesel

i like the design. its not puke like so many japanese cars. sorta italian. i hope it survives a crash test. it looks better than the new hyundai coupe. looks better than the already dated camaro.

i still fickung hate toyota though, regardless. want a laugh? read C/D review of the corolla XRS......LOL