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after seeing this at the auto show all i can say is this is maybe the first gm in a long time that the INTERIOR will sell the vehicle. This interior is so much nicer than the crv.

Road and track. the mazdaspeed 3 was first than the GTI. The Civic drags its ass in third.

nobody puts BOBBY in the corner.

gas just hit 3.39 in my town today. at that price, the hybrids are in no way bull$h! if the price of them is cost effective. on a Sclade, adding say, 5 grand to the cost is nothing on a 70k vehicle. A buddy just this week bought a new Civic. Went in looking at the hybrid civic. They wanted 23. He settled for the regualr Civic and saved 6 grand. Even driving 25-30k miles a year he couldn't foot the extra 6k. Whichever manufacturer that can figure out how to build the hyrbid and only add maybe 2 grand on to the price of a car will rake in all the sales it can handle. GM ought to be developing a new dual stage hybrid for the next global delta platform to work with the small gas and diesels.

he's been trying hard to keep it a secret love affair. oops! just kidding! how bout this?

LIKE IT OR NOT, the self minded professionals open their big wallets for this stuff.

WHAT MOPAR COMMUNITY

um, well if it wasn't them it was some other cmparo. i ge t so many f@#king magazines i can't keep em stright.

M/T is pure crap

if you were a stuck up bitch who's *ahem* didn't stink........yes, they would consider that a $h!ty life. oddly. and some folks work for 8 bucks and hour and still find love. 'he said we gotta hold on to what we've got it doesn't make a difference if we're naked or not we've got each other and that's a lot, for looooooveeeee, we'll give it a shot'

Gee. In C/D's recent comparo, the mazdaspeed 3 really kicked the Civic Si's ass. Everything else. The civic wasn't in the top spot. i wonder if it's partially because the civic has like, um, no torque.

was it Jerry or Jim Bakker that nailed Jessica Hahn?

you mean like 200k annual salary, well to do but almost dead parents, and a 2 carat rock? let's not kid ourselves. women are the masters of being selective. I again refer to my now ex coworker who is GORGEOUS and gets along tremendous with men. Women hate her because men drool at her sight. She can pick her dates at will more or less. But she's holding out for a doctor or something of that ilk. Regardless of if she loves him or not, somewhat seemingly. She even said to me 'looks don't matter'. HEY this thread really veered! JUST HOOKED UP MY APPLE TV! thing is THE BOMB! first movie I bought on line? DIRTY DANCING. f-cking device rocks! it's an awesome consumer product. I wish GM's products were as insanely good. re: plumpers....there is one at work lately who hovers near my cube because she is on a cube neighbors project team. OK, she's not fat. Just wide. Very nice and thick. wears KILLER perfume every day that gets blown all over by my desk fan......I'd hit that, if I could. 2-300 times. Weight is not always a problem, sometimes its just how its worn. Same could be said about me...LOL and has been I'm sure. The abused ones though, Bob does have a point. If there are some deep mental scars you REALLY gotta love the person a lot to bear those burdens they have. And they don't show up right away. It can sometimes take years for some $h! to surface and really start to deteriorate a relationship. I think all Bob is saying is if there are some things you can pick and choose (and I know you can't always) about your mate, that is one thing you can do without if possible. I can't fault him for not wanting to deal with that. Flip side of that is if you meet someone who blows you away and that comes with them, you have to buck up and be ready for whatever goes with it. I have a friend who married a woman who has MAJOR psychological scars from some incident in her past. I do not know if it is sexually related, but it is parental of nature. It affects the woman and my friend every day of their relationship. She can't, and probably cannot be expected to, ever deal with it. But their marraige is entirely unhealthy because of it. Maybe it's a bad pairing. My point it, if the realtionship is forever strained then it makes sense a lot of what Bob is saying.

i thought he was hangin with rap stars.

i am sure if this weren't a globally shared model it would be a bit bigger and yes it should be the size of the current vue. the perils of going global. yet, the only big reduction was probably in the cargo area. it looks darn spacious as far as seating in person. thing is, rav4 and crv are 'cute'. vue matches it, 'cute wise'. current vue was looking a bit butch/rugged. vue's size is likely ok since the nox is fairly large in comparison. keeps em different. i just love how this destroys the caliber, etc.

Honda really stubbed it's foot with the 08 Accord redesign. Can you say UGLY. If Accord loses even 20,000 units and Camry still loses 10,000 units after picking up those accord buyers...combined......and the Altima loses some..... If Chevy even makes an initial net gain of 20-30,000 units for starters, that's not bad. The Accord is the stinker here. That thing is a dog. that could really shift the balance of power in the whole segment. WAIT. look how ugly the CRV is and it's killing the cute ute segment.

"wow, that's harsh. I'm a writer, I know dialogue, and that's particularly harsh' -Bruno Kirby in When Harry Met Sally

don't worry about the interior. i touched the door panels of the 08 vue at the auto show. the design and execution of that example was top flight and among the best of GM and will match or exceed anything in that class. the exterior styling is well done also. this thing has 'big hit' all over it if the pricing is agreed to by the public. my only reservation is it's heavy.

congrats on the degree and most importantly... CONGRATS ON GETTING OUT OF ARCHITECTURE!!!!!! best decision you'll ever make! question, did the balance in your bank account double overnight? Hey, now you'll actually have time to yourself!

all very valid criteria. most certainly. we all know there is plenty of trashy women out there. yesterday presented a great example. although the subject matter is too sensitive that I would get killed if I broadcast it, bob I will PM you the details later tonight and you will have a great laugh.

the Intrepid brought mainstream buyers into the showroom and kept Chrysler relevant to a broad cross section. Sorry to be truthful, but Dodge is now a redneck brand like pontiac was, and Chrylser isn't much higher on the radar, it's a bling and dubs brand now. The best image DCX products can present right now is what happens at the dodge dealer by my house. Chargers and 300's with dubs and tinted windows and tack ons and big ram trucks jacked up another foot in the air. Jeeps with all sorts of bling tack ons. Nitros jacked up a foot with 24 inch wheels and chrome tack ons. And they sure clerk a lot of heavily discounted yet quite dated minivans. 'Mainstream buyers' or appliance shoppers don't go to a Dodge dealer to shop today. At least when they had the Intrepid and Concorde and 300m and LHS, they got more interest. The new Sebring convertible might be the only thing that brings back some of those people. DCX cannot survive on the rehashed musclecar / dubs and bling thing. Dodge ought to fold up shop, I would even say pickups too. Keep Chrysler and make it an 'American niche brand'. Keep Jeep and do the same. I'd rather see GM/Ford take their business.

oddly, the 08 Escape and Mariner is starting to take off around here. I've seen quite a few in the last couple days.

hmmmmmmm lol

women control the car purchases these days. in most cases. how do you suppose the camry and accord got so popular in the first place? then, SUV's. women generally know squat about technology and features and engineering in cars until its time to buy, then they go online and read all the drivel the Leinarts of the world write, and then all of a sudden they are 'experts' in the showroom with their internet printouts and CR magazines. "what did REDBOOK or COSMO say about the Camry?" that's why so many cars look and feel soft and cute today. the woman decides probably 70% of the joint purchase. if the man says no, he gets no. How else do you explain market phenomenons like the Lexus RX or ES? Or the Highlander. i had a buddy recently who was actually happy with their odyssey. he loved it. she was having a mid life mom crisis you know, can't be caught in the minivan anymore, cramp their style. She insisted on a Jeep or Pilot and Pilot won. My buddy is still bitching because of the tremendous utility of the Odyssey. But now she feels sexy again I suppose because she's in an 'SUV'. Women car buyers are mostly about image, they just simply use the CR and reliability and internet info to back up whatever it is they want at a given time as far as cars go. You can find all you need to back up whatever decision you want to make yourself believe. is the remote start on the camry FACTORY INSTALLED? or is it a dealer accessory

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