regfootball

all they have to do is tell you that it is in an ad and you are supposed to believe it.

ok, fast forward to today. i saw a new Sienna ad today on tv, now, toyota is going for the 'mommy jugular' with some closing line on the end of the ad...help me out if i forgot it exactly "At Toyota, it's about the children" or something like it only to insinuate that not choosing toyota means you do not in any way care about children and would actively choose another make of vehicle and have your children die or have their lives compromised in a dreadful way if you make the wrong choice in life and not get that Sienna. Yes mom, you will be a totally inadequte, non caring mom, leaving your child to die a heartless death, if you don't buy a TOYOTA minivan. Bully advertising in its lowest form. Complete lack of class. No subtlety. By now I guess its typical to assume no less from toyota. what a crock of crap. this is just as bad as the ad where they insinuate that you care nothing about the environment if you don't buy a toyota. This pushy type of advertising I find offensive and insulting but so many people in our country today are dumb as a box of rocks as far as thinking for themselves so they all likely take it at word. Is Toyota resorting to these brainwashing corrupt misleading ad taglines just like tainted world leaders of the past used words to coerce their citizens into being blind followers without thinking for themsleves?

i confirm your theory. my aztek was ugly, but it also was cheap and hence, its in my driveway.

that happens at what, 9,000 rpm?

if the ridgeline is anything like my buddy's new Pilot, you'll be lucky to see 15 mpg on daily driving, without towing or hauling anything besides a wife that won't put out. The wife doesn't, but the truck sure does suck (fuel).

:lol: :lol: :lol: that alone means it should pull a 20,000 pound trailer with no frame damage and also it will get 20 mpg doing it! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

i guess that my bob lutz and rick wagoner voodoo dolls are working..... wait i sold my mitsubishi last week, i must have burned those dolls now

i knew that, i was just kinda pullin your chain a little. :rolleyes:

blu always has the best one liners.....

the added blue graphics and stripes are horrible and don't make up for the lack of the 3.6 vvt

2007 tahoe in your future

nah blue, she's so hot she might even turn you back to the straight dark side

even REGFOOTBALL? THAT would even surprise me.

isn't sodomy sucking Richard?

the civic is flat out an ugly ass car and the shape isn't even space efficient, especially the coupe. The Mazda3 is still the classy compact. Honda admit it, you lost your ricer fan base with the last body style and you simply restyled the car to get all your ricers back.

the caliber by virtue of its hatchback falls into the same market group as vehicles like the Escape and Element and Vibe....smaller 4 cylinder getabouts with cargo room....and buyers, especially women, will compare them that way. patriot looks ok, but its not a REAL jeep. its a pussified non trial rated version made to look like a jeep. and already with the Liberty...why would they bother?

i thought maybe blu would like it :P

i love how hyundai styled its new Sonata off a successful Ford compact from the 90's

SEPARATED AT BIRTH 06 Sonata late 90's escort

one bonus Dave for the gay crowd......

separated at birth

the distinctive part of the Milan's ass end is the big chrome strip at the bottom of the trunk lid. that and high taillights give a real distinctive look on the road. saw one the other day and it really stood out, just like the Fusion does, but in a different way with the same sheet metal. good job ford.

my brother in law and myself talk about this stuff a lot lately. the proliferation of large companies and their taking over of the country, everything is franchised, large multinational, etc. this and that. our economy will become eroded if we move too far in the direction of a service economy. yet many in our nation have jobs dependent on the health of these companies. Personally, I think we have evolved to a selfish culture that encourages many in business to only look at short term company benefits in the US. What do we need to do to boost our next quarterly stock price? As opposed to 'building the company for the next 30 years'. Our business leaders get big outrageous pay, take jobs in high positions and move from company to company depending on whether the business hust down after a stock crash and they wanted to bail, or whether they wanted to take an insanely lucrative offer. We really need to eradicate our nation's culture of our Walmart mentality, but our desire to have 'exotic' things. We seem to all need to draw our esteem and standing in the social world on the products we buy? I think a lot of this is what is driving the import buying frenzy...as much as the whole 'they build better cars' thing. Its reached a cultural phenomenon where we automatically assume products produced here suck and are for rednecks and poor folk and dumb asses only. At least in some social circles. Want proof? I picked up my new Five Hundred yesterday, and already two people had a horrified response when i told them i got a Ford. What, I didn't get a HONDA or TOYOTA? I guess part of why I picked out a 500 was a maybe felt compelled to contribute to the US pot. It wasn't a big reason, but it was enough that I sure did consider it. Beyond that, most folks don't care. Most folks only care what kind of cell phone they have or if their clothes are from Abercrombie or Express. About 2 months ago I was riding with some coworkers to a work function and the conversation swung around to cars because one of our interior designers picked up her new AUDI. Sure, I like Audis but i didn't participate. It did become a 'Honda is so great everything they build is God' sort of thing. I just kep tme trap shut. If the president of my company says Hondas are God, fine I guess I better not openly disagree if I want to remain in good standing. I'm just saying that this is culture nowadays. The 'movers and shakers' and style mavenc of our culture have told the world what is 'right' to drive and its NOT GM and not Ford. What I am saying in a roundabout way is if GM and Ford could ever repair their image to the point where their market shares increased again, then I think it would help to strengthen manufacturing jobs. The benefits to workers are not going to be won only at negotiation tables, but by totally changing how the public feels about products American companies make. And there is the Japanese govt and their currency manipulation...........

chrylser and dodge with their whole hemi based image now and big trucks really has made them sort of a redneck image for a lot of its products. then they have the vans. aside from that, Chrysler is very anti meanstream right now and that direction could very well hurt their long term future. the upcoming stratus replacement is UGLY and will do nothing for them. Chrylser can only ride the hemi and 300 for so long before their well is dry. the caliber is a good start, but doesn't appear to bring anything truly unique to the table. As an example, wouldn't you still just get a four cylinder escape or an Element before the Calibre?