Intrepidation

Almost bought a Lumina, but ended up getting the Grand Marquis...that Lumina seemed iffy and the seller was clueless.

I like both, and while the Camaro's sexy lines call out to me more, I would be happy to have both parking in my driveway, along side a GT500 and a SMS Challenger. Hey I can dream. Passed by the Hyundai dealership this evening...they had a few...must check out.

So you'll just go make out withe Satty then? :rotflmao: Choose wisely.

I think all of C&G could use a big fat suppository.

For whatever reason, GM completely reskinned the Corolla to make it a Prizm (the 2nd gen anyway). They don't share a single body panel. Even the roof is different. Inside, GM used different fabrics and the dash was redesigned. Also, I wasn't directly referring to Pontiac, just 2 GM compact cars on the same platform that have less distinction.

How about an apology for the comment? On another note, the Prizm, despite being a Corolla underneath, is still technically a GM model, and far less of a rebadge than the Cavalier/Sunfire. If you've got a problem with that, take it up with GM, but it is classified as a GM car. So bite me.

GM Rejected the Offer

Well it took more than 2 seconds But I think the titles should be readable now. They show up as black for me on the default skin. Easy CSS Editor my ass...the Advanced mode is easier. Good thing I have Firebug to trace the elements or I never would have found them. If you find other unreadable areas you'll just have to let me know. Sorry for the delay.

Can you read it now?

Tell you what, since I know it's been an issue, and I do still care about the site, I'll see if I can at least do a quick fix of the font color problem for now before I got o bed.

Actually ocn, that comment of yours was pretty hurtful, especially considering how long I've been here, and all of the work I've done for this site. It, coupled with the hysterical and downright nasty posting has made me take a closer look about whether or not I give a $h! about C&G anymore.

Oh and you're right, the site doesn't get properly moderated, but when often times Olds or I are the only ones on to do it, yeah things get put on hold to take care of other problems. I really don't feel that the mod team functions as a team.

Just feel the need to post this, since everyone and their mother thinks site maintaining is s piece of cake. Changing 1 font color is a gross over simplification. I have yet to be told how the site is structured, and, if the css that controls the font style is linked to other skins, it can screw up the look of them. I haven't been told how it's set up, haven't had time to dig through the scripts and look, and frankly I don't care at this point. I'm tired of the fact that despite being a member here since `06 I still get a big load of $h! from people like I don't belong here, despite the fact that I've contributed to the actual site more than they have. The posting on this site has borderlined on hysterical lately, and has gotten downright nasty. So you know what? Fix it yourselves.

Remember the rules on personal attacks. It's this kind of $h! that makes me not want to be on C&G anymore.

Chris took the offer.

I used to enjoy coming here because of the people and the interesting discussions that would go on, as well as I found it a good hub for automotive news in general. The posters members were level headed, and while yes I'm a Chrysler fan, I'm a fan of cars in general, so its nice to get a different view of it, especially here since it wasn't just full of "omg GM can do no wrong and everyone else sucks". That's what made this place special. However lately more than a few people have been walking around with rods so far up their asses they can probably taste it. They're letting the bad automotive news spill over into other aspects of the forum. It's just not enjoyable to log in anymore. Which is a shame, really, as this has been for years my favorite site to log on to. I don't plan to leave or anything, but I think I will cut down on posting besides new news threads and posting the Lounge, at least until the dust settles.

Snooping as usual I see.

Dude that sucks. The last thing you want to do after sinking thousands into the car is have it break down again.

I bet the frame won't break in half on this bad boy.

Someone on CD suggested I join lhforums.net. Great place...lots of nice people. Some amazing cars there too. I don't know why I didn't do it sooner (probably because I didn't know about it). It's like finally coming home.

So much for buying a new Challenger.

And found myself a new forum to hang out at.

You misunderstood what I said. Years ago Chryslers could be compared with Cadillac. However it hasn't been that way for decades. Although, the 300M was a better performance car than what Cadillac had to offer at the time. First, the crosshair grill has been around for decades. Before the Ram even existed. Second, it's not stealing. Unless I guess Pontiac stole the split grill from one of it's models (or BMW? I can give misinformation too) Next up. Dodge had several performance models with it's EEK cars like the Shadow CSX, Spirit R/T and such. The minivans changed the shape of the industry for people movers. The First gen Neons were touted as being worthy of competing with the Civics and such (before later reliability problems). The original cloud cars were renowned for their right size, good handling, frugality and styling. The LH cars introduced Cab Forward design and capable handling in a large car. The LX cars brought RWD back for the masses in the US. The Ram broke the mold for truck styling, and the new one broke the mold again for suspension and handling. The Dakota was the first, and for a long time, the only midsize truck and the only one to for a V8. And of course there's the Viper. As far as design language goes, clearly you didn't think your post (at all) though. Since the mid 90's Dodge has had very clear styling languages. The 90's - early `00's were the swoopy, cab forward era. The Charger ushered in the more upright and sharp lines design languages. You can see the cues in the headlight detailing, fender flairs, strong lines, and of course the grill among other things. Not just a split grill, some plastic cladding, and fake hood scoops. Oh and of course there's the SRT vehicles, which unlike the SS badge, haven't been diluted. Oh, and the Challenger doesn't have a crosshair grill because the original didn't. I could go on and on but it's not like you'll pay attention to it. Oh, so people you know are representative of an entire country?