Intrepidation

Well said on all counts, and some people just liek to whine...especially when it gets political and they don't agree with it.

One standard to rule them all.

8-12 inches of snow predicted so far for Wednesday. However this far away they may up the totals more.

He seems to be avoiding that.

If I were to get one it would be an `02 R/T or a later SXT with the SRT appearance package. That being said, I would skip both and go straight for the SRT4

I agree, I did not like the `03 front ends at al. However the SRT appearance package you could order late in the Neon's life gave it a nice looking front end again.

To be fair, I was referring to the $h!ty one being the L series, and overpriced (not $h!ty) being the current lineup.

GMs Volt may hurt the company short term, but its technology will pave the way for others, and eventually the price will come down to reasonable levels.

Hopefully no one gets offended by this...if so I'll remove it...but the irony is too funny.

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Yes, please enlighten us.

Silly man, they are Banks, they are the most important thing ever. Plus these money infusions, whose usage is being vigorously tracked, allows the banks to start lending money again. Oh wait...

If the government wants to help 45mpg could be achievable. It's all about getting the funding, which automakers have little of currently. Or magical fairies could drop off 100 billion on each automakers front doors, the meaning of life, and how to get 100 mpg...but I think government aid is more realistic.

WTF? Dude, do you read what you type before you post it?

I agree with a that as well. Let's just pick the highest, and aim for that...without wanting to change it to 600mpg 7 months later.

I said: You said: Then you said: There was only two parts to my post.

I was like as well. But then, I've been shocked several times by multiple people in this thread today.

Saturn built it's reputation cheap, fuel efficient cars with dent resistant panels and excellent dealer experience. Saturn should return to that philosophy or be terminated. This is another case of GM not knowing what the F to do with it's brands. Had the S-series actually been kept up to date and not allowed to rot, followed by a $h!ty Opel and then more overpriced Opels, it would probably be in much better shape...especially when gas prices were $4.

You can do plenty to keep the country safe without resorting to terrorist and Nazi interrogation and prisoner keeping techniques, and spying on your own citizens. Back to the topic At any rate, if the government is willing to fund these developments (25 billion was supposedly already allotted, but I suspect more will be needed) then go for it. However I feel this should wait until the economy recovers and the automakers have some actual cash reserves.

We need to pick one set of emissions standards (the highest, but within reason) and stick to it. Then the government who is so eager to create stricter emissions needs to help fund these developments since they cost big bucks the automakers don't have...not even Toyota apparently.

That some of you people dare call yourselves Americans, or Patriotic for that matter, while condoning torture, and showing a willingness to abandon the principles and ideals that our country was founded on shocks and disgusts me. Condoning those actions makes us as evil as the terrorists we so want to crush. Think a about that for a moment. On that note if this doesn't get back on topic I will lock it.

I love how the same people who bitch about socialism and standing for America think it's ok to disregard our most important ideals. That's called hypocrisy guys, and it disgusts me.

Known about this for a while now. Chrysler needs to offer something in this segment, and a Durango more along the size of the original is definitely a wise decision. Now get to work on Project D and those small cars...and my 200C.

It's a real bitch when it slumps, the government really should get in there and get it back up.

The cash burn rate through 2008 at General Motors, Chrysler and, to a lesser degree, Ford, has been one of the big new stories in the auto business. After a disastrous third quarter, GM was down to about $11 billion and, along with Chrysler, was in danger of having insufficient cash on hand to pay bills at the end of the year. Meanwhile, Toyota has been raking in the profits for ages now and was thought to have up to $90 billion in reserves as recently as a couple of years ago. The other day, however, John McElroy reported that Toyota may be down to only $18.5 billion in cash with rapidly spiraling debts. The company has spent heavily on new factories and new products in the U.S. in recent years, but saw its sales plummet as much as the domestics in the second half of 2008. Its total current short-term liabilities are now roughly equal to its total current assets, and its cash reserves put the company on par with Ford. In recent months, Toyota has been moving aggressively to cut costs and budgets have been slashed company wide. The automaker famous for avoiding layoffs was also reportedly considering shedding some jobs in the U.S. and UK, but had denied those reports are true. Source: http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/26/toyota-...illion-in-cash/