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The following quote greeted us on the company computer system the other day: But ... isn't "contribution" a way to show "commitment"? Thoughts? Cort:34swm."Mr Monte Carlo.Mr Road Trip".pig valve&pacemaker WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort "Are we too blind to see?" ... Elvis Presley ... 'In The Ghetto'

This gathering is TWO WEEKS AWAY! *Will anyone be in the greater Elgin area Friday night and/or Sunday morning? If so...should we plan something for, say, after 8p on Friday (Dad's city softball team plays at 6:30, so I wouldn't be available until around 8p) ... and/or ... Sunday morning?* My _CELL_ number is imbedded below...so take note, in case you need to reach me now or the day of this event. **DATE** Saturday, July 26, 2008 **TIME** Starting at noon (for lunch) Ending...? Please come for as long or short a time as you are able. **LOCATION** NEW PLACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We have reached CAPACITY for the Paul Wolff Shelter I had reserved for this event. THUS...the NEW LOCATION is: STEAK'n'SHAKE 290 S RANDALL RD ELGIN IL 60123 http://www.mapquest.com/maps/290+S+Randall...Elgin+IL+60123/ This is... ...NORTH of I-88, IL RT 64 ...SOUTH of IL RT 20 (by about a block or so), I-90, IL RT 72 ...EAST of I-39, IL RT 47 ...WEST of IL RT 31, IL RT 25 ...~20-minute drive, S from the I-90/Randall Rd interchange. _847_ **CRUISE NIGHT** The greater Chicagoland area offers MANY cruise nights we could attend, the closest of which is held here: BEEF VILLA 1225 W SPRING ST S ELGIN IL 60177 From Steak'n'Shake, this is south along Randall Rd, then slightly east of Randall Rd along Hopps Rd/Spring St. _337_ **COSTS** ABSOLUTELY/100% _NO_ FEES!!! Food (we have to eat anyway) ... NO alcoholic beverages Gas (wish I could control this one) Lodging (if needed) _9897_ **LODGING** CAMPING: Paul Wolff area of the Burnidge-Paul Wolff Forest Preserve. The campground features a dump station, electric service, pad and water. For more information about campsite availability and condition, please call (630) 444-1200. HOTELS/MOTELS: BEST location, given the proximity to the gathering location, is Country Inn & Suites, just N of I-90 along Randall Rd: http://reservations.hotel-guides.us/hotel/...-11282403M.html To get to the gathering location from the above place: South on Randall Rd Cross over IL RT 20 Turn right into shopping center area where Steak'n'Shake is These 3 places are just N of I-90, along IL RT 31... Super 8, E side of IL RT 31: http://reservations.hotel-guides.us/hotel/...-10211930M.html (NOTE ... map is off, this hotel is visible from IL RT 31, as I recall) Hampton Inn, E side of IL RT 31: http://reservations.hotel-guides.us/hotel/...-10203685M.html Quality Inn, W side of IL RT 31: http://reservations.hotel-guides.us/hotel/...-10230565M.html To get to the gathering location from any of the above 3 places, and AVOID I-90 tolls: South on IL RT 31 Turn right (west) onto Big Timber Rd Turn left (south) onto Randall Rd Cross over IL RT 20 Turn right into shopping center where Steak'n'Shake is **ATTENDEES** ALL ARE WELCOME!!! Please join us ... RAIN OR SHINE. WILL YOU BE THERE? As of now, ~90 people from 17 DIFFERENT groups/message boards are planning to or thinking about attending this one-of-a-kind, first-of-its-type and (hopefully) first-of-many gathering.... HOWEVER...NOW is the time to advise me definitely whether or not you are coming. Sssooo...please advise ASAP! I hope most of you listed are able to come (especially since the LOCATION has CHANGED to accommodate the INCREASED number of participants), and I hope more people SERIOUSLY consider JOINING US. This should be a GREAT time and a WONDERFUL way to meet people, especially in THIS area.... * CHEVYTALK.ORG = 13 * = ChrisS (Chicagoland) = Anthony/Maligoon (Chicagoland) = 75 Chevelle (Chicagoland) = Impalaman1966 (Chicagoland) = 57ORG + 1 (Chicagoland) = green 57 210 (Chicagoland) = Chadman03 (Chicagoland) = REBORN55 + 1 (IL) = BuffDaddy (IOWA) = Eight90 + 1 (OHIO) * IL MONTE CARLO OWNERS GROUP = 10 * = Grant + 1 (Chicagoland) = Bill + Mary (Chicagoland) = Larry + Carol (Chicagoland) = Alex (central IL) = Derek A + Janie (central IL) = Jeff H (INDIANA) * 4TH GEN MC SS = 9 * = Euro/Matt + Dad (Chicagoland) = 5088 (Chicagoland) = white85ss (Chicagoland) = Aeroscream/Bernie (central IL) = Chevyman 3-8-29 (INDIANA) = ProTourAero (INDIANA) = 87MCarloSSBeast (WISCONSIN) = Glenn T (MICHIGAN) * 1ST GEN MC CLUB = 7 * = Andreas + Leo (Chicagoland) = Larry (Chicagoland) = George + son (Chicagoland) = Zanie (Chicagoland) = Phil (INDIANA) * NATIONAL MC OWNERS ASSOCIATION = 7 * = 73monte (Chicagoland) = montecl86 (central IL) = Scott W + 2 (central IL) = jcaffeldt + 1 (MINNESOTA) * 6TH GEN 2000MONTECARLO = 7 * = Chitown Chevy (Chicagoland) = Paul1965 (Chicagoland) = silverbullet (Chicagoland) = erics95se (Chicagoland) = shaveradam (Chicagoland) = 2002 Monte SS (IOWA) = 7801MonteMan (MICHIGAN) * 5TH GEN MYMONTE = 6 * = chevy81888 (Chicagoland) = dante (Chicagoland) = Cully77 (Chicagoland) = blackbeauty89 (Chicagoland) = Monte Z34 (Chicagoland) = mrclean (WISCONSIN) * GM INSIDE NEWS = 6 * = The Cruck (Chicagoland) = DuraMax Hammer (Chicagoland) = darndot (central IL) = New_Mexico_Sunset_on_RT66 (IOWA) = DuSpinnst + 1(MICHIGAN) * MC MAILING LIST = 5 * = Ed G + 3 (Chicagoland) = Andy (WISCONSIN) * CHEERS & GEARS = 5 * = Northstar (central IL) = daves87rs (MICHIGAN) = gm4life + 1 (IOWA) = Chris/66Stang (OHIO) * MCFORUM = 5 * = AwsomeSS (Chicagoland) = kweef (WISCONSIN) = RocknSS04 + 1 (MICHIGAN) = vita (S DAKOTA) * MIDWEST V6 = 4 * = Vegas + 2 (Chicagoland) = tease (Chicagoland) * FULLTHROTTLEV6 = 2 * = Z28_DAD (Chicagoland) = mofo123 (Chicagoland) * EL CAMINO ML = 1 * = John, evening (Chicagoland) * 2ND GEN MC 73-77 YAHOO GROUP = 1 * = Steve (WISCONSIN) * 3RD GEN MONTES = 1 * = nightmare388 (western IL) * MONTE MILLENNIUM GENERATIONS = 1 * = Andrea (IOWA) Cort:34swm."Mr Monte Carlo.Mr Road Trip".pig valve&pacemaker WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort "Don't say it ain't so, you know the time is now" ... John Fogerty ... 'Centerfield'

Capriceman ... I like your radio solution. I may have to do that myself . No...the '76 doesn't ping at all. And, the choke has been adjusted...multiple times...lol. I'll check the other again, too, though I know that has been done.... Ya never know, though .

Wish I had had a camera with me today while driving my older 4 MCs. I spotted a brand new malibu with them on, as well as an older Ford Thunderbird.... Aye. Cort:34swm."Mr Monte Carlo.Mr Road Trip".pig valve&pacemaker WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort "Play with the fire, and your gonna get burned" ... Steve Wariner ... 'Some Fools Never Learn'

*nods* Yep...I sure do. I did run a title search through the IL Sec of State's office for my parents' former '76 MC back in the mid-1990s. It had 2 owners after Mom and Dad (the original owners) traded it in ... and the second ended up junking it ... a few weeks before I started the title search...arg! Even so, I wonder, sometimes, what happened to my former '88 MC LS...as well as a few other cars my parents owned. I don't care what happened to my 2 new cars, which are both LONG gone. Cort:34swm."Mr Monte Carlo.Mr Road Trip".pig valve&pacemaker WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort "I'm burning up this blacktop" ... Mark Collie ... 'Even The Man In The Moon Is Crying'

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LOL! I WISH it were a case of me needing to stop listening for the exhaust . But, no, the '76 always seems to "drag" a little bit upon cold starts. It's fine once it gets warmed up...but, it tends to bog and, sometimes, will hesitate/stall as I drive it out of the garage. And, yep, it has been tuned up.... Cort:34swm."Mr Monte Carlo.Mr Road Trip".pig valve&pacemaker WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort "I ain't ready for the junkyard yet" ... George Jones ... 'I Don't Need Your Rocking Chair'

Sweet! Heh...I see Camaro (side view), Corvette (nose), Vega (taillights) and Cavalier (old school...dashboard...though, I'm not exactly sure why) in it..... Cort:34swm."Mr Monte Carlo.Mr Road Trip".pig valve&pacemaker WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort "A concrete fascination scraping the edge of nothing" ... White Zombie ... 'Black Sunshine'

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That isn't too shabby, intrigued. Any idea what the EPA rating on that is? It'd be interesting to see how well it is getting compared to the EPA estimate.....

But, I wonder if loyalty is a 2-way street. It should be, imho, but I get the feeling that most companies nowadays, including GM, don't really care if it is or not. Starting with the FWD Toyota Nova/Ch#$r%*et Corolla in the 1980s, followed by the FWD Celebrity/Lumina/"monte carlo" 1995-2007, the FWD Corsica/"malibu" 1997-present, and the FWD Celebrity/Lumina/"impala" 2000-today, Ch#$r%*et has made it quite clear that loyalty is not a 2-way street. If so ... they certainly have a good 20+ year start, in some cases. Sadly, yes. Despite how frustrated I am with Ch#$r%*et, I don't want it to be the nail in the coffin. I like many of the products they have out now, including a few of the ones I mentioned above, but none of them are RWD. Without that, I'm not buying..... *shrugs* Cort:34swm."Mr Monte Carlo.Mr Road Trip".pig valve&pacemaker WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort "Didn't I tell you?" ... Colbie Caillat ... 'Realize'

Birmingham

Oh my yes. I don't know the specs offhand, so I'll have to get 'em for you later. The '72 has a 3-speed, but the previous owner told me it had been replaced, and she didn't know what was put in (a bit scary)...and, when I first got the car in 2002, I sifted through the paperwork she gave me...and none of it mentioned a new tranny...so, I don't know if I'll have the specific info on that one..... Cort:34swm."Mr Monte Carlo.Mr Road Trip".pig valve&pacemaker WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort "Do you see what I see?" ... One Republic ... 'Stop and Stare'

Why do I drive a GM? I enjoy GM styling better than the other automakers. Both parents were GM owners. Dad has had several older Impalas, including a '58 convertible...as well as a '55 convertible with the continental kit. Mom's parents always had Chevys, too. Cort:34swm."Mr Monte Carlo.Mr Road Trip".pig valve&pacemaker WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort "My heart is like an open highway" ... BonJovi ... 'It's My Life'

AMEN! Very nice, Northstar! A clean car is a BEAUTIFUL thing. Cort:34swm."Mr Monte Carlo.Mr Road Trip".pig valve&pacemaker WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort "All it needs is just a little time" ... Jeff Carson ... 'The Car'

cottontail

I had a great time at the MC Nationals last weekend (hard to believe it is already over), but now, I'm gearing up for THIS gathering in LESS THAN 3 WEEKS!!! I will have my '87 MC LS (clean or not, since it IS a daily driver) with me, and if I can get some help, my older 4 MCs will be there, too. Course, I probably should wash the older 4 MCs so they at least look OK and aren't dusty as heck as they are now.... We have a few more people showing interest in attending. So, WILL YOU JOIN US? As of now, ~88 people from 17 DIFFERENT groups/message boards are planning to or thinking about attending this one-of-a-kind, first-of-its-type and (hopefully) first-of-many gathering.... It is about time to let me know for sure if you are coming or not...so, please advise ASAP.... I hope most of you listed are able to come (especially since the LOCATION has CHANGED to accommodate the INCREASED number of participants), and I hope more people SERIOUSLY consider JOINING US. This should be a GREAT time and a WONDERFUL way to meet people, especially in THIS area.... * CHEVYTALK.ORG = 13 * = ChrisS (Chicagoland) = Anthony/Maligoon (Chicagoland) = 75 Chevelle (Chicagoland) = Impalaman1966 (Chicagoland) = 57ORG + 1 (Chicagoland) = green 57 210 (Chicagoland) = Chadman03 (Chicagoland) = REBORN55 + 1 (IL) = BuffDaddy (IOWA) = Eight90 + 1 (OHIO) * IL MONTE CARLO OWNERS GROUP = 9 * = Grant (Chicagoland) = Bill + Mary (Chicagoland) = Larry + Carol (Chicagoland) = Alex (central IL) = Derek A + Janie (central IL) = Jeff H (INDIANA) * 4TH GEN MC SS = 8 * = Euro/Matt + Dad (Chicagoland) = 5088 (Chicagoland) = Aeroscream/Bernie (central IL) = Chevyman 3-8-29 (INDIANA) = ProTourAero (INDIANA) = 87MCarloSSBeast (WISCONSIN) = Glenn T (MICHIGAN) * GM INSIDE NEWS = 8 * = The Cruck (Chicagoland) = DuraMax Hammer (Chicagoland) = darndot (central IL) = New_Mexico_Sunset_on_RT66 (IOWA) = DuSpinnst + 1(MICHIGAN) = GMCSonoma (WISCONSIN) = King Riffle (WISCONSIN) * 1ST GEN MC CLUB = 7 * = Andreas + Leo (Chicagoland) = Larry (Chicagoland) = George + son (Chicagoland) = Zanie (Chicagoland) = Phil (INDIANA) * 6TH GEN 2000MONTECARLO = 7 * = Chitown Chevy (Chicagoland) = Paul1965 (Chicagoland) = silverbullet (Chicagoland) = erics95se (Chicagoland) = shaveradam (Chicagoland) = 2002 Monte SS (IOWA) = 7801MonteMan (MICHIGAN) * 5TH GEN MYMONTE = 6 * = chevy81888 (Chicagoland) = dante (Chicagoland) = Cully77 (Chicagoland) = blackbeauty89 (Chicagoland) = Monte Z34 (Chicagoland) = mrclean (WISCONSIN) * MC MAILING LIST = 5 * = Ed G + 3 (Chicagoland) = Andy (WISCONSIN) * NATIONAL MC OWNERS ASSOCIATION = 5 * = 73monte (Chicagoland) = montecl86 (central IL) = Scott W (central IL) = jcaffeldt + 1 (MINNESOTA) * CHEERS & GEARS = 5 * = Northstar (central IL) = daves87rs (MICHIGAN) = gm4life + 1 (IOWA) = Chris/66Stang (OHIO) * MCFORUM = 5 * = AwsomeSS (Chicagoland) = kweef (WISCONSIN) = RocknSS04 + 1 (MICHIGAN) = vita (S DAKOTA) * MIDWEST V6 = 4 * = Vegas + 2 (Chicagoland) = tease (Chicagoland) * FULLTHROTTLEV6 = 2 * = Z28_DAD (Chicagoland) = mofo123 (Chicagoland) * EL CAMINO ML = 1 * = John, evening (Chicagoland) * 2ND GEN MC 73-77 YAHOO GROUP = 1 * = Steve (WISCONSIN) * 3RD GEN MONTES = 1 * = nightmare388 (western IL) * MONTE MILLENNIUM GENERATIONS = 1 * = Andrea (IOWA) Cort:34swm."Mr Monte Carlo.Mr Road Trip".pig valve&pacemaker WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort "One more sad story's one more than I can stand" ... Anne Murray ... 'A Little Good News'

Yikes, Dave... Sure hope you are feeling better...SOON! Cort:34swm."Mr Monte Carlo.Mr Road Trip".pig valve&pacemaker WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort "If you fall, I will catch you" ... Cindy Lauper ... 'Time After Time'

Camino, Not sure if this will help you or not, but try: www.montemania.com I know Phil personally...met him at a few different MC events...so, tell him I sent ya. If he doesn't have what you need, he might be able to point you in the right direction, too. HTH. Cort:34swm."Mr Monte Carlo.Mr Road Trip".pig valve&pacemaker WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort "All it needs is just a little time" ... Jeff Carson ... 'The Car'

manners

Fuel economy is a buzz phrase that most car buyers/owners want to maximize. Accordingly, car manufacturers are striving to give buyers excellent MPG. Among newer Ch#$r%*ets, while not the most fuel-efficient models available, these are still considered by many to be "fuel efficient" (compared to say, trucks, SUVs, etc.), with figures I searched for online...: 2008 V6 malibu, FWD ... EPA-estimated 17 mpg city 2008 V8 (active fuel management) impala SS, FWD ... EPA-estimated 16 mpg city 2007 V8 (active fuel management) mc SS, FWD ... EPA-estimated 18 mpg city Comparing ... the 2008 V8 G8 GT, RWD, has an EPA-estimated 15 mpg city Meanwhile, the 2008 Dodge Charger V8, RWD, has an EPA-estimated 17 mpg city ...and the 2008 Dodge Charger 3.5 V6, RWD, has an EPA-estimated 19 mpg city Highway EPA-estimated MPGs are touted the most, but for this comparison, I'm using the city EPA estimates, since my RWD Monte Carlos are used more or less in the city. I've NEVER claimed my Monte Carlos to be fuel efficient..and I still do NOT claim that; however, comparing my real-world MPGs to EPA estimated MPGs for newer engines...imho, a few of them certainly are NOT the gas guzzlers most people see them as.... Course, options on the cars along with the type of V8/V6 engines are factors that I have not taken into account...which might be unfair.... Even so, the comparisons are intriguing to me...and, with no car payments (versus a car payment with a newer car) and lower insurance premiums for the older cars (vs higher insurance premiums for a newer car), I'll stick with my older cars...for now, anyway.... 1972 MC, 350 V8 ... 1st 2008 fill-up, June 1 ... 15.18 MPG ... 2nd 2008 fill-up, July 4, after ~142 miles, 10.215 gallons .... 13.87 MPG 1976 MC, 305 V8 ... 1st 2008 fill-up, June 1 ... 13.58 MPG ... 2nd 2008 fill-up, July 4, after ~137 miles, 10.095 gallons ... 13.58 MPG 1979 MC, 350 V8 ... 1st 2008 fill-up, June 1 ... 15.47 MPG ... 2nd 2008 fill-up, July 4, after ~141 miles, 7.859 gallons ... 17.94 MPG 1981 MC, 3.8 V6 ... 1st 2008 fill-up, June 1 ... 18.60 MPG ... 2nd 2008 fill-up, July 4, after ~139 miles, 7.086 gallons ... 19.62 MPG 1987 MC LS, 305 V8 ... June 1 ... 19.26 MPG ... June 8 ... 17.10 MPG ... June 13 ... 18.40 MPG ... June 18 ... 16.43 MPG ... June 22 ... 18.78 MPG ... June 30 ... 19.03 MPG ... July 6, after ~155 miles, 8.118 gallons ... 19.18 MPG Cort:34swm."Mr Monte Carlo.Mr Road Trip".pig valve&pacemaker WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort "Who do you think you're talkin' to?" ... Lee Roy Parnell ... 'What Kind Of Fool Do You Think I Am?'

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HAPPY (belated) BIRTHDAY! Hope each of you had a wonderful day . Cort:34swm."Mr Monte Carlo.Mr Road Trip".pig valve&pacemaker WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort "The journey's been etched on your skin" ... James Blunt ... '1973'

Hey YJ, I must've missed that thread...or you had deleted it before saw it. Either way, glad things are looking up for you now. Thoughts/prayers coming your way.... Cort:34swm."Mr Monte Carlo.Mr Road Trip".pig valve&pacemaker WRMNshowcase.legos.HO.models.MCs.RTs.CHD = http://www.chevyasylum.com/cort "Who's gonna hold me tonight?" ... Trace Adkins ... 'Help Me Understand'