balthazar

Only seen stills of the Hornet 'corkscrew jump' but I agree: amazing. I enjoyed both Vanishing Point movies, as well as Bullitt, which I'll catch the chase scene whenever its on. Like Dual as well, tho I wish the car was at least interesting. I believe the Ryan O'Neal movie is The Driver, in fact. Never saw it. Dirty Mary, Crazy Larry is another good car chase movie. I also like The Car, tho I wouldn't neccessarily call it 'good'. Opening chase scene in Jeepers Creepers has some nice vintage iron in it.

I really don't know why I knew that, but I looked at it for a few seconds and 'late Vega' came to mind. Had to verify it via photos, because I knew early Vegas had quad taillights, and google showed the Cosworth had the chrome trim and '76's tails were a different shape. Capriceman- I just stuffed Leno's Toro pic in my 'OLDS' folder on my harddrive. F'ing rolling artwork!

You have a few steps ahead of you first. Retracting the shoes is temporary- driving it & braking firmly multiple times will adjust them to the correct spec, tho I would back them off of all-the-way-retracted first. BUT, with any car sitting a good long while, I would pull each drum and check the brakes' condition: linings for rust & thinness, shoes for cracking,/ thinness, wheel cylinders for leaking, hoses for dry rot, steel lines for excessive rust, wheel bearings for wear & repack them w/ grease. You want to drive it, right? What goes... needs to stop. Get the brakes in top shape- it's the first step.

Weeks have already turned into a month. Will a month turn into months? Will months turn into a year?

mightymouses's list....??? :sad: It wasn't that GM thing with the built-in shopping cart, was it? You are talking about the '64 GM Runabout. Pretty sure than was non-powered, but not 100% sure. AmRev makes a good deduction about "petrol", tho if it was from a British pub, that could explain the terminology. I am familiar with numerous dual fuel vehicles, but not a gas/electic one. I do not believe the ElectroVair retained an IC motor.... Stumped....

'75 Cosworth Vega.

I wouldn't kick it outta bed for eating crackers, but it's a tiny bit less cherry than I was expecting. Duct tape over leaking window seals always makes me shake my head, but whatcha gonna do? Still, real solid. I love finding them this way- solid and original. Looks like a lower-optioned car; a 425 would seem unlikely. Still, a damned fine cruiser- take care of her and she'll take care of you.

ANOTHER ONE?!?! This is friggin fantastic!

On the backside of the brake (the backing plate), down at 6:00 o'clock, is a little oval rubber plug. Wriggle it out and shine a light in there; get a look at what you'll be aiming for. It's a 'star wheel'. Get a brake spoon (looks like a wide flat-blade screwdriver at the end), engage the star wheel's teeth and move the other end of the tool, the one in your hand, down (rotates the star wheel up & away from you). This will retract the shoes away from the drum. It'll take a while for each one to retract all the way (the star wheel won't turn anymore). Might make 6 revolutions, tho that's a guess, not knowing the thickness of the linings. Do all 4 wheels. Electra should roll now, tho you may have to pull the car (in Neutral) to try and break things free. Don't drive it; with the shoes retracted all the way you won't have any brakes! Post again here if that doesn't work.

'Fatigue' is a component of the driver, not the car. It's an unknown and unpredictable factor, if any factor at all. Immaterial. Point was, the (domestic) 'family-sedan'-based car was able to virtually match the performance of a 'pedigreed' car costing many times more the price. That is certainly not an embarassment to the 'family sedan'... I don't wish to get knee-deep in a heated argument here. Mutual respect would be an excellent 'white flag': both 'camps' have had formidable, successful machines that greatly advanced their street products. You know what you know and I know what I know. Can we leave it at that?

A half second per lap advantage on a 2-minute course would require 240 laps for the quicker car to pass the slower one. That's EIGHT HOURS of driving (240 laps x 2 minutes). Hardly "huge".Sure, in a 24-hour scenario, that's something to contend with. In a one-to-one comparison (in other words: one lengthy & varied lap on a road course) of handling, braking & acceleration, it's virtually nothing.

I agree with Sixty8 in that I would prefer more choices as far as options are concerned: unbundle everything and let me choose. It's my damned money. Limitations and mandates doesn't come off as very user-friendly (tho it does seem thoroughly 'modern').

Where's the damn pictures??

I find her decisively repulsive. Horse-ish. She's a mediocre woman physically who sometimes, thru 'just right' make-up & photography/cinematography can look attractive, tho on film I think a good portion of that is her personality/character. She was bubbly & cute in that movie with Steve Martin in L.A. years ago, and I think she's been trading on that ever since. Oh; and don't miss the fact that she has full-blown man hands.

The above red barofsoap was first created for EPCOT for '82 and was named 'Aero 2000'. That version had skirted front wheels and a bobbed (much shorter) tail. It featured single-stick controls (ala the '58 Firebird III), HUD, rear cameras and a host of other high tech features. cd was .23. This was a non-running concept built around a 3-cyl TD. It was modestly reskinned (as seen above), aparently powered & renamed the 'Aero 2002'. I have a picture of President Reagan driving it, and although the Chevy Bowtie can be seen, the caption refers to it as the 'Saturn subcompact'.

Sure it was built, I have a feature article on it in my library. Did you mean factory-built? Then of course; no it wasn't. That was never the criteria as I interpreted it. 'Look foolish'? IMO if a 40-yr old 'family sedan' is matching the performance of ferraris & the like, it is they that, in comparison, look foolish. I am again reminded of the '65 Chinetti-supplied ferrari 365 vs. the '65 Pontiac 2+2 roadcourse test: less than a half-second lap time difference on a 2-minute professional course. That was a factory car. I know: we weren't talking about vintage exotics... I do so hate the assumptions that follow the exotics around, which seem to primarily rely on 'it costs more because it's better'. Blech. The protoype engineer on the Ford GT gave a nice 'dis' to ferrari & lamorghini, subtly insulting their chassis/design work. I would be very interested to inspect both. Nice to see you around again, razor.

The one possibility is, if the crank window retains the large steel spring to help raise/lower the window and the PW version has none & a mostly plastic motor.

How does 1.05 lateral Gs out of a '65 GTO rank in the exotic world?

What I stated was; PW used to be, without question, heavier than crank windows. This I know from direct experience (examining the 2 systems from the same year/make/model). The electric motors were heavy units. Someone above claimed that today PW are lighter than cranks, which I doubt, but I would welcome more detail on how that could be the case.

Well, I did draw it back when I started the project, so yes. Dreaming: block-sanded primer & Nitro-Stan in the scratches and out on the road, chasing down mercedes' & BMWs. I was originally going with speed discs and flamethrowers, but those details have been out for quite some time. In fact I am going to sell the speed discs I've been storing in their boxes from JC Whitney for over 10 years, tho I still do dream of flamethrowers...

My dream house: 'First glance':

There is nothing inherantly 'wrong' in many vintage performance cars that would render them incapable of matching & exceeding the performance (in all realms of comparison) to that of many modern domestics. Handling, braking, steering, etc, etc is all readily attainable via the aftermarket. You can still build a -say- '66 Chevelle that will kill a lamborghini for less money. It won't be "1/10th" the car; it could in FACT be '11/10ths' the car. And just because there's a waiting list for a ferrari or such, and just because it costs $250K, does NOT even remotely guarantee you are getting even $100,000 worth of car. I've watched people looking at mass-production houses, walking thru them and exclaiming 'This is beautiful' with no earthly idea how to judge quality construction or craftsmanship or how to see obvious errors & shoddy work. Many car buyers are no different.

Well, lessee... 505 HP = 198 MPH 650 HP = ??? Won't be 253 but it should be 225 no problem. In that these 2 will never race fender-to-fender except perhaps in a magazine, the actual numbers are only bench-racing fodder.

I don't care for the DTS-esque grille-headlight 'step' (where the grille projects forward of the headlights), nor the mini fender vent 'teetering' on the point of the side glass trim. It also looks a bit 'softer' than the 1st gen. I give it a B vs. the A I feel the 1st gen is.

Many many vehicles, with supposedly 'premium' or even 'class-leading' reputations have utterly failed to impress me or live up to the hype surrounding them. I don't see the Durango being on the list, nevermind #2, and having just seen the show all about the Viper vs. the GT, I have to completely disagree about the Viper; still a kick-ass exotic. I prefer the 1st gen but the 2nd is still edgy as hell. I would vote for a given random ferrari to be included...