balthazar

Oahu is very nice, tho it's not terribly different that any other upscale shore resort as far as attractions. I went some years ago, spent 5 days on Oahu on Waikiki, toured, Diamond Head, flight over the Big Island and all that, but much preferred the next 5 days in Maui. Maybe the 4-star hotel was part of that, tho. Drive the perimeter, but watch for the 200-foot deep potholes... BTW- you could 'hike the volcano' on Maui, tho I hope you're in shape: Haleakala is over 10,000 feet to the top. They do offer this free 'road' deal instead....

Answer already posted earlier:L-A-Z-I-N-E-S-S

Dunno. Perhaps much like cars, they're told what's 'cool' by the companies with the most ad dollars.

Ya. Right. I'm - figuratively - somwhere close behind 'blu.

That's not what he said; he said value- for the money spent, the bentley is a major disappointment. Look at the interiors. The convert costs $360K, looks like maybe $75K hope the other $285 is in matching luggage in the trunk. $285K for a badge is rape & robbery rolled together with a sound bitch-slappin'.

There were 2 artists who did all the drawn Pontiacs ads from '59 thru '71. One --Van Kaufman-- did the backgrounds, the other --Art Fitzpatrick-- did all the actual cars- you can see their initials in lower corners of most all their ads. Fitzpatrick did other auto adwork prior to Pontiac, Merc was another marque. Easily the best illustrated auto advertising ever; one's with raindrops are just killer. Check it: http://www.fitz-art.com/home.htm

The Fonz was the real deal. I read in a passing mention that he owned 47 '49-51 Mercs; damned if I know where a single one got to. He moved to VA for his last few years and passed in '99 at only 61. I wouldn't be surprised if it was cancer from smoking & sanding bondo without a mask for 45 or so years. He built very rough but totally cool sleds. GMTG- I'm not originally from the NB area (Hopewell), but I've lived here about 13 years. I've heard about the Fossils show- checked out their website but haven't made it there yet. I'm writing down the dates &'ll make an effort.

There's no accounting for taste.

About once a week I scrape mazda 3s out of my wheelwells. Thanks to my Allison and my driving skills I can easily get over traffic...

Walt- if you've frequented shows in & around NJ, maybe you remember this guy?:

I do favor domestics and snub imports- esp japanese and german vehicles. I take pride in my snubbery.

RE: wheels- gotcha. Are there visual differences in different vintage Cragars then (assumedly a few generations), or is it a date code thing? I may be the closest C&Ger to you (No Bruns)....

Right- they were sister divisions.

I love the GT Hawks- A gold '63 was very nearly my first car. That occasion was when I first discovered the phenomina that pschycologists call "The Studebaker Effect". Walt, not dissing, just curious: how did you come to choose those wheels and what's you opinion on the factory Avanti wheelcovers? Next time this show is happening, post notice- I'd like to swing thru.

>>"i remember as a kid, jump in the old hudson, and make sure we get a good running start... or else we had to back down the hill"<< Why couldn't you go forward down the hill?? All right- no one is going to bite so here I go. Pontiac wasn't called anything before it was called Pontiac. Pontiac was it's own division from the start. Pontiac could NOT have been called Oakland when Pontiac & Oakland co-existed. Pontiac & Oakland were organizationally-grouped, but their own divisions. The only thing they shared was the assembly plant... for one year. This misinformation is spread all over- I guess it just gets repeated instead of getting researched.

These sure sound like ad headlines as opposed to brand taglines. Huge difference.

Bottom line: it's not reliable data.

Norseman is still on board the Andrea Doria. Tech did not exist then, and would be tremendously expensive today, to bring a car up whole from a shipwreck. Of course- add to that the cost to refurbish it and the loss (from a business standpoint) is the far easier way out.

ocnblu= >>"Someone older will have to answer the second part. Balthy?[/b] :AH-HA_wink:"<< Someone older than you, blu? Pfft- I don't think so. >>"Well, it was Oakland before it was Pontiac, I know that much."<< Nope. Impossible. >>"Why was it created?"<< To improve Chevrolet's economies of scale by sharing basic parts and to plug a price gap in the GM divisional hierarchy.

Boy that quiz is F-ed up. I chose 440 Six-Pack for the engine and it tells me I'm a '71 'cuda with a Hemi. Must be mercedes electronics running the processing...

Whether a '70 or a '72, the 'cuda is a fake: it wears AAR striping & logos, and the AAR was '71 only. Dodge ran a big pic of the Challenger T/A in it's '72 Scat Pack 8-page ad, only there never was a '72 T/A (sister model to the AAR).

Lookit: Cort breaks into the Big Three-Ohs!

Displacement is a mathematical computation of bore x stroke x # of cylinders. I have read more than once that it does not include combustion chamber volume (valve area above the piston at TDC/above the top of the bore.

LOL: deftone feels old! Dude, you have no idea.