balthazar

No one needs to hose out their interior. No one. People are told this is a benefit, a neccessity, and they believe it. It's ludacrious. The element where half the body is cheap black plastic is the farthest mass-produced.... thing from "finished" available. It's the vw Thing of the new millenium.

In the context of the thread; obviously I meant hit each other at what would amount to a 95-MPH impact.

'58 Fury with optional Golden Commando dual-quad V-8.

So, as I intended to comment on originaly but forgot- people will say smaller cars are safe but no one does these tests anymore (to my knowledge- I hope that's incorrect), and they should. The roads are not filled with concrete blocks but moving vehicles. Let's see a H2 hit a sentra at 95 MPH. Physics will not be denied.

Ehh- it was worth the ticket price but I have no desire to see it again.

As you gape at the below pictures and ready your snide 'see; old cars suck' commentary... please keep in mind that the pics you are used to seeing are 30-MPH impacts into stationary objects. The below pics (from the IIHS) were conducted from 43 to 49-MPH... BUT as both vehicles were moving towards each other, that's an 86 to 98-MPH impact. Still, and I agree: yikes.

Lots to love from BMD. Particularly partial to 59s, but I also really appreciate the '53 Skylark, the '56 Roadie, the '65, '66 and '72 Rivs. '58s have really moved up on my list, too. '64 Wildcat, '69 225... wow; I didn't know I liked quite so many...

Reason enough so people will ask you what kind of car you drive???? BTW: looked over a 9-3 aero today. What an awful, obviously dated interior! That flat plane dash with the overabundance of vent grids; if I owned one and people wanted to see what I drove because of the key, I would get a generic hardware store replacement to avoid having to show it off.

Cordovan is another small brand that I've used about 5 times on different vehicles. Good tire, very good longevity, great price. On the East Coast, RS Strauss sells them; not sure where else they're available. Last time I checked, they were made in the U.S.. I do like Goodyears, tho they are a bit more in price than many others. I put a set of Michelins on my truck the last time and I don't like them- too squishy and they scrub in sharp turns. They are standard load when I should have extra loads, but the truck isn't that heavy and they should not be this awful. I suppose with the way they traditionally wear, they'll be on there forever. I have to buy a new set of 245/75-16s for the Silverado... not sure what to get yet. Has Hankooks on it now- seem good tho I've been told they are very pricey.

I will be blowing my hand off tomorrow with some circa 10-yr old fireworks that largely made it thru a fire/dousing. Look for markedly more typos from me coming to a message board near you soon.

Clearly the public has a very good idea of 'what an SS is' or articles from know-nothing numbnuts like newspaper auto 'journalists' would have no basis on which to base their complaints.

While I also hate to see a integral part of the U.S.'s past industrial might fall into disrepair, there were dozens and dozens and dozens of Fisher Body plants over time. No auto manufacturer of any appreciable longevity has maintained all the facilities they've ever had, either. Anyone know which division was supplied by FB# 21? I would love to lift at least something for use in my shop- a bank of lights, a short row of lockers, anything that GM once used...

Oldsmoboi nailed it; I agree. Some of the ideas floated are ludicrious (BMW V-12 in a Cadillac?).

Other: DeSoto. I like their last 6 years of product and where/what they represented in the market.

>>"what about "Hot Rod Lincoln" then? I haven't a clue who did that"<< Many... Commander Cody and his Lost Planet Airmen being one of the better known versions.

Wow; this article is all over the place, tripping over itself to avoid the obvious facts that counter the "success" of many of these proported "premium" brands. Those crazy germans... >>"Range Rover...uld be in trouble if Ford failed to understand how important innovation is... ll Terrain Response harnesses computer power to control off-roading with settings for conditions like mud, snow, rocks and sand, and almost automates the driving skills required. "<< That's automation, not innovation.

{bites fist in frustrated envy}

Well, we can talk about having too many models, but it doesn't apply to Cadillac in the '60s. The Division set sales records year after year and dominated the segment.

Here's just 6: Breadfan - Metallica Problem Child - AC/DC The Hand That Feeds - NIN Hot Rod Man - Tex Rubinowitz Black & White Thunderbird - The Delicates Dragster - Johnny Fortune

Whew! {regarding 'not blisters'} What's 'looking rough' about it- the leather upholstery assumedly; anything else? Were y-you able t-to.... to.... t-touch it? Maybe a fleeting caress? spins madly in jealousy

Nice pics, MM. Especially appreciated: very good interior shot of the LeSabre- dig the 'halo' intrument cluster that encircles the steering column. That gas pedal must've came straight from GMC Coach. Were you making the men in black twitchy leaning out over the automotive Mona Lisa like that? I HAVE to see this car in person someday. Tho it's interior is spartan and dated- the exterior lines of the Aerovette are still completely awesome. I've also been impressed with the SS since it debuted. It seems really long in pics; what would it compare to in size?

capriceman- nice pics! That's not chrome blistering in the LeSabre's 'jet' exhaust, is it?? We need to pass the C&G hat if it is.

Pshaw- that!?! wheelbase 125", overall 214". I am way too literal....

IMO- the Porsche hood cutline shows up the worst, because of the slope of the nose you look into[/i] the gap, plus the rubber nose is pretty wavy in the above pic- catching your eye even moreso. The '911' is much tighter of a car dimensionally; there may have been more restrictions on where to run the cutline, IDK. But there's something unrefined about the infiniti hood seam- just looks too arbitrary & 'rounded square' rather than actually designed intentionally. Something about it says Saturn L to me, too. Not a huge deal but could be better. Overall I much prefer the current g35 to this, esp the rear- NG is getting far too bloated and derivative. The 'zit' taillight lenses have to go, too.

Nah- that's the Chrysler d'Elegance: no quad fins, no 'moonroof backlight', 115" wheelbase. SixtyS88 is hinting for something with more like a 135"+ wheelbase. '66 Duesenberg proposal had the dimensions (137" / 244"), but not the design cues, designer location or vintage. There was an earlier '59 Duesenberg proposal (not the convert that shows up via Google- this was a 2-dr hardtop/coupe), but it bears no relation whatsoever to the '66, I have no dimension specs for the '59 and I cannot guesstimate it's size. It's still shy on some of the clues, too. Car in question has to be something else... of european origin...