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I think U are just trying to piss off a certain EV hater. ? After watching a Tesla owner the other day do 0-60 sprints that looked Funny Car-ish.. I have to agree that the possibilities seem pretty sweet

Its really the only way to go in my opinion. Last hope for fun of a Shade Tree Mechanic. New cars are too techy for major things. Being able to pull an engine, tranny, etc is confined to older rides. Could have been a nice Trans-Am

Yeah everything in time. Seats and upholstery was redone but the dash... I was always afraid of doing a repaint but if I take my time this Spring and mask everything off properly I should be good to go

Thelma.. 66 Impala

Just thinking back.. I remember when I got my STS backin '05 .. GM was putting actual 40 GB HARD DRIVES in cars for music... Now I put all my music on a 64GB Flash or SD cards

Decided to get rid of stock AM Radio.. cut dash and slipped in a new sytem. Ran wires to the rear after I cut holes in the top, cause these cars only came with a speaker in the middle of the seats and in the middle of the dash. This spring I will paint dash and what not... VID_56570310_035049_592.mp4

None. The ATS was the closest to having issues with the interior, and in truth that was confined to the Instrument cluster being rather basic. I mean it when I say.. the ironic part was that the Camaro upon being put on Alpha.. had a more advanced looking cluster. It really did. I really don't get why Cadillac doesn't follow one basic formula.. "BE BETTER THAN EVERY OTHER GM BRAND." They have done stuff in the last 15 years that has bewildered even me. I remember having my '05 STS and thinking.. "why does my wife's Saab 93 have HID lights and I still have Halogen Bulbs? " I remember thinking.. "Why does the XLR have a 320HP NS and 443HP NS while the Corvette has a 436HP LS3 and a 500HP LS7 and then a 630HP LS9.?? Why can't Cadillac see that this makes no sense and will be ridiculed by the media.. and its not an issue considering the CTS-V has the OHV option, not to mention the mighty Escalade? I remember recently thinking "why do they not transfer all of the luxury in the departed ELR to the ATS?" The ELR had the most luxo interior of any Cadillac IMO from 2013-2016. It also begged the question as to "WHY THE FUKK.. did Cadillac not keep it's styling and transfer it to the ATS Coupe? The writing was on the wall of the ELR being killed in 2015.. the ATS-Coupe arrived in 2015. hmmmm.. let's NOT WASTE a BRILLIANT DESIGN. I remember think also.. "Why does the ATS-V have no LT1 option? The platform obviously takes it.. and even if U are trying to be similar in offerings to the M3, why not have one extra option to allow for an extra reason why the consumer should go for the American option? A 464HP 445 ft-lbs TTV6? YES!!! But how about an optional 460 Hp 465 ft-lbs of torque. Similar... but the "V8" might make all the difference in the world at time of consideration for some. Then the other one comes down to one thing. The CT6. Cadillac, I think, deliberately wanted this vehicle to be looked down upon. $53K starting price? On a vehicle that easily ATPs at $70K according to my dealer, as they have not sold one.. NOT ONE.. 2.0L RWD model since they started selling them. They tell me not even the other closest dealer has sold one either. My dealer has told me that they sell more Premium Lux 3.6L and 3.0LTT than anything else.. Platinums is second.. and of all the models U can only get black or silver as a no charge option. (The CTS, BTW still has an ATP of $58K, almost $15K above base price) Either way.. when then the first complaint came about the bottom of the lower model's doors shot in, about them being too plasticky.. why not change them? My CTS's doors are soft leather all the way down to the edge

Awesome comparison.. and why I'm a Caddy fan. Its unmistakable every time.. and something that Cadillac really needs to exploit again. They did so earlier on when the STS came out in 2005.. but just won't do more to show that buying into Cadillac's A&S styling is a clear cut example of being different than the status quo trying to be 3Series knock-offs. I'd say Cadillac and Benz are the only ones that really stand out.. While Lexus tries to be different it still has that look.. and certainly Audi does as well. The reality is that every one of those cars above can easily be mistaken for a damn 3Series if U catch them at a glance.. especially the XE and Alfa if U see them in side profile. The Infiniti and Hyundai are almost identical unless U go over the details. Its like I said before.. and over the last 20 years since Hyundai started producing vehicles that look half-way decent to look at.. they STEAL thrown out design exercises from Infiniti.. and now they have started to incorporate some of Audi in their mix. The Infiniti G37 and the first Genesis Coupe looked like damn near the same car. There were obvious differences when they were side by side, but on their own they were as closely related in looks as a Sierra and Silverado.

And yeah.. what is going on? There sales, thru Nov, are literally down 50% for '18 from '17. The ATS, CTS, and CT6 (thru Oct) all sold a total of almost 3X what the three vehicles ate Genesis did and GM is thinking about axing the 6.

^^^ Plus.. they look like the design reviews that Infiniti and Audi threw out in the garbage and a Hyundai Styling Thief.. (that is a real job at Hyundai) dumpster dove and retrieved.

Thinking of picking this up for $2500. Runs but need engine work, new shocks and tires and obviously some body work

I agree. It makes little sense.. but in truth.. GM's response and admission of defeat, even when they are winning, makes little sense either. I've seen more CT6s on the damn road since their announcement then I did before. They looks so stately.. YES, a larger CTS, but with more handsome proportions. I feel like it would look even better with standard 22 inch rims. Anyway... The more I see the Cruze vs the Sonic the more I see why they are discontinuing it It makes no sense in these two vehicles selling at the same time.. altho I still believe that the Cruze name should go to the Sonic. Seeing the new Trax proportions in the Camo'ed pics gives me hope, that the Blazer front end is going to make it very nice looking in terms of the segment it competes

Dealerships are within a network of other dealers. The part can also be obtained from another dealership.

to anyone questioning my post.. and as soon as Toyota decided to finally break from their tired old old old old Corolla formula.. and put something "new" in it.. it breaks. Toyota RECALLS NEW COROLLA FOR CVT ISSUES See.. That's exactly what I was saying in another thread. WHAT EXACTLY IS GM's EXPECTATION, and why does the media try to see anything that is not selling on the level of the Camry as a failure. Technically the CT6 is the best selling of the larger Luxos.. Even if U only used the same price point level as a starting LS460.. I'd bet it would still be selling more than it

?? I was telling my GF the other day.. I'm tired of doing Island trips.. f@#k the beach. Our next trip is a train ride all the East coast to Maine. She can go if she wants.. or stay the hell home . We can just enjoy the cities.. and the sites. Take it in U know. Either way.. U wanna see conservatism that bewilders the hell out of me.. look no further than @ocnblu. While he and I have a lot in common.. at a certain point I break with his ideology on automotive. GM wants to move to EVs, away from ICEs. VW too.. I applaud this, while some say its preposterous

Its true.. some may not know, and most of my old AWCC and MTForum members that came here are gone.. but my heritage is American Black father who was a 1/4 Cherokee, a mother who is partially Black, White, and half Japanese. When I was young I would visit my family's home in Kobe, Japan.. where the sentiment pertaining to Americans was not so grateful as some were led to believe. I have cousins over there that work in the industry, specifically for Toyota who always call me laughing at the fact that we made the Camry the number one car in sales for almost two decades. Even he jokes about the mediocrity of the product.. and can't fathom why Americans pick almost two to one over the Malibu, Fusion, and Accord. He has on occasion down the same thing when talking about the Corolla. Once calling Americans idiots over the Corolla.. a vehicle that is the greatest compromise in history intermingling BLAND, BORING, UNDERPOWERED, and BASIC. He has commented to me that "the American companies try.. they even succeed at building better, more exciting, and just as reliable compacts, with newer technology and better styling.. while the Corolla, a car that still has linage that goes back 20 years.. continues to beat them in sales." (Chrysler picked up on this with the LX cars.. GM should still be selling Sigma/ZETA platforms and pre-Epsilon (WBody) Impalas base don this philosophy) Truth Toyota is smart. Americans don't desire advancement. The country is conservative. GM could have continued its formula of Solid Axle in the Tahoe for another 20 years. Should they have? no. The Cruze should have never been called Cruze, or Cobalt.. it should still be called Cavalier.. and that car should still be riding on the platform that made the Cobalt SS the best performance compact in America just 12 years ago. Change the styling.. upgrade the electronics and interior.. and market as new... THAT IS THE TOYOTA PHILOSOPHY TO PROFITS. Basic ass $h!. But... Americans would squawk on these forums.. in those magazine reviews. Domestics are the most scrutinized of all. Is there any other manufacturer that U can think of without using Google , where U know the actual name of the platform the specific car U are talking about is on? This.. without Google: Impala- Epsilon 2-L ATS CTS- Alpha and Alpha L CT6 Omega Tahoe Yukon Esca - K2XX Cruze D2xx.. Now ask me what the hell Nissan's Sentra, the Infiniti QX70 are one.. What about that Corolla? The BMW 5Series? Sh!t I can't tell U what the Accord is on. Right.. Sight unseen, someone asked me why I bought a CTS-V over the M5 or E63AMG.. They literally said, "but Cadillac.. that's an old man car. They float down the road." LMFAO when I picked their ass up and we went for a cruise down around 695.. They sounded like one of those commercials we often think are bull$h! .. "THIS IS A CADILLAC????" Failure of GM marketing. Failure of Americans' ability to accept evolution.

This in no way, should be second to some damn fat nosed 7series

Damn I hate missing out on the start of these conversations. Look! I get what the Unions are doing. Both the UAW and CAW want to retain their livelihood. Its an inevitable stance. Its a necessary stance. But it is a stance that each and every one of them should have thought about a decade or two ago.. when they saw and knew that the tide was turning and the non-unionized manufactures were muscling in on their customers as well as their jobs. U CANNOT HAVE BOTH! U can not lose your customers and still keep your jobs. U HAVE TO SELL YOUR PRODUCT JUST AS MUCH AS THE DEALERSHIPS! Ironically they, say that they "Made GM" and that GM is betraying them.. but what about the betrayal to GM.. themselves when U look in each and everyone of their driveways.. their families' driveways.. their friends' driveways.. and see a fukkin Toyota, Honda etc? Here's the deal.. Since emerging from Bankruptcy in 2010 GM has added about 29,000 employees, about 50% are salaried, the other half Hourly. GM currently has 50,000 salaried employees, and as of Jan '17 GM employed 97,000 total people in the U.S. Chrysler employs 56,900 and Ford employs 85,000. Honestly speaking, GM has too many employees considering their market share. In fact they have too many employees even if their market share was 5 points higher. Interesting fact, is that Toyota only has 30,000 US. employees. It has to occur to some one, some where that GM has been a welfare company for far too long. They employee way to many Americans who don't appreciate their employment status. All of them do not even support the company with a simply thing such as having an all GM new car driveway (not including hobbie classic cars from other manufacturers.) Imagine a situation where employees at Lordstown or Detroit-Ham actually actively recommended a Cruze, Volt, CT6, Lacrosse, Impala to their family and friends. How about the community and city of Detroit do the same? Why? Because supporting your plant meant supporting jobs, keeping jobs. Hypothetically John, who, along with his dad owns "Gios," the restaurant that serves DH employees daily, rolls up to the restaurant his new Avalon instead of an even Consumer Reports top pick, Impala. One sale lost, now two, now three. Detroit-Ham closes. Six months later, "Gio's" closes. Now John is making his car payments to Toyota Finance using unemployment money he gets fed. He's sour on GM for closing the plant. What if he had of just bought an Impala and spread the word that it is a great car? German employees know this. They support the hell out of their local plants even when their car is a piece of junk VW. Moving on to what @oldshurst442 is saying about GM/Ford/Chry/ building junk during the 70s-80s-90s.. I call bull$h!. Junk compared to who? The Foreign makers were no better than the domestics during that time.. they simply were an alternative. Gas mileage? Yes in the 70s when the gas shortage occurred and their was a move to make vehicle more efficient, the domestics got blindsided. THE FOREIGN MAKERS WERE MORE EFFICIENT BY DEFAULT! Americans loved V8s.. almost every car U bought from the Domestics had a V8. Imagine the equivalent of the Cruze.. THE CRUZE.. the Chevy Monza being sold with a V8 under the hood. The Datsun B210 had a 65hp 1.4L with 65hp.. U are damn right it got better fuel economy. Yes U could get a Chevette (Acadian in Canada) with a similar engine to the Datsun's 1.4L and get the same fuel economy.. but AMERICANS bought V8s and V6s.. 4cylinders were looked down on. Reliability? Another bull$h!t thing that was pushed up by the anti-domestic crew. There literally was a thing going around that all foreign cars were more reliable than domestics. Even if they weren't the perception was in place and it transferred to all of them whether they were or not. Datsun/Nissans were POSs. Peugeots were POSs. Alfa Romeos, Fiats, BMW, Audis, even the early Hondas and Toyota.. certainly Mazdas and Isuzus.. POSs. If it wasn't an issue with the powertrain it was an issue with the structural integrity of the bodies. Take a look outside next time U get up from your PC or phone. SERIOUSLY. HOW MANY CLASSIC FOREIGN CARS DO U REALLY SEE THAT WERE DAILY DRIVERS STILL RUNNING AROUND? I can tell U I saw two 1984 Cavaliers the other day. I see Cadillacs that should have been retired or RESTORED 10 years ago still running around. Buicks LeSabres like the ones I know I got a ride to middle school in still rolling up the Blvd.. Shocks squeaking, trim hanging. But why not? They are going on 35 years old. That 1990 Honda Accord? Haven't seen one in 15 years. That Camry from 1992 that was the models first best selling model???? Haven't seen one in years. Damn sure still see Corsicas, f@#kkin Skylarks, and goofy ass Ford Escorts. Would U believe I saw a K-Car the other day? No Daihatsu, or Sterlings (or the Acura Legend it was based on) from 1990. Call them $h!ty if U like.. but I see Buick Reattas and Cadillac Allantes still cruising around, as well as Chevy Caprices, both the rounded ones and the boxy ones. THE PERCEPTION THAT FOREIGN WAS/IS BETTER WAS A BUNCH OF BULL$#!+!!! Profitability GM builds the Sonic profitable due to UAW concessions at the onset of the car's changeover from Aveo... GM was able to run the plant with 40 percent of the workers at a tier two wage, about half of the $29 per hour that regular UAW workers make. Remember that car too tho, was up for death earlier this year but after it was realized that the Cruze was a better kill.. GM threw support behind keeping the more viable Sonic. (Again I believe that they should keep the Cruze name for the Sonic), not to mention the Sonic also shares its platform with the Trax and Encore, a car that quite frankly may have started the revolution of leaving small cars to get into a small CUV. In truth.. If Americans and Canadians want more GM vehicles built in America, say Detroit-Ham or Lordstown, they should have made certain that the vehicles built there were the number one vehicles you saw when you entered the area at least. People at Fairfax should be currently buying Malibus by the dozen. I mean that. The only thing one could perhaps cry about would be the lack of a V6, which is a ball drop on GM for not putting marketing in place to let it be known that the 2.0L was a viable and better alternative to the 3.6L, with more torque allowing for almost identical acceleration. The quality, content and styling of that vehicle in no way is inferior to a Camry or Accord, although I would say many nit-pick a GM product to the brink of it slitting its own risk versus a Asian or Euro product. By that I mean I have witnessed many giving a pass on the overall shoddy engineering of a Range Rover's powertrain, but hold it in higher regard over an Escalade due to CUE not having buttons. But that's the mentality of Americans/Canadians. The standard is so high, but the product must be so cheap for Domestic makers. There is an article over on, of all places, TRUTH ABOUT CARS, a publication that has historically hated GM while simultaneously boosting Toyota and the like.. The article (another one) essentially gives a glowing review of the CADILLAC CT6.. yet when U read some of the comments after the review.. trollish people are putting the car down for the most bullcrap reasons. Some actually admitting mistakenly I'm sure, that they had never even sat in one let alone driven one. Saying they would not pay $100K for the car, while at the same time saying they would pay $100K for an Audi A8 or 7Series. I mean.. Do you really think a BMW 550 is worth $10,000 more than a CTS VSport? $35,000 Toyota Avalon worth more than the $28,000 Chevy Impala? Seriously I PRAY that someone is able to get thru to GM to keep production going on that car.. even if its moved to another plant. It is literally one of the beacons of drawing in conquest sales.. of course marketing would help. The link for the review is below. CT6 Review from TTAC Interesting .. Jalopnik broke this story yesterday.. VW GIVES AMERICAN THE MIDDLE FINGER..literally Americans.. its how foreign automakers really feel about U and U continue to send them your money while shunning your own industry. Personally.. as I've said before.. GM, Ford, and even Chrysler should give all y'all the middle finger, pack up.. and take everyone if its almost 270K workers with them, pushing this country into an economic depression worst than 1929 ever did.

First time ever U made me laugh. Anyway.. U are correct. There wasn't. Thus GM being liable for idiot's not able to access the common sense part of their brains

So the GLS outsold the Escalade during those years? U mean the one that had been introduced in 2006.. and was still 2 years away from getting a redo? WOW.. Big achievement? The Escalade sells in the U.S., Canada, Mexico, Russia and Middle East. These are essentially the limited areas where GM decides to sell Cadillac, altho obviously other GM brands sell in other countries. Ironically I actually believe that the GLS is predominately an American SUV, 2017 combined EU and US sales being 36,800 and the Escalade's U.S. sales alone being 37,700. That again is with the Denali/Yukon/XL, and Tahoe/Suburban taking sales from the Slade sometimes

Again.. when it is weighed without the dressed configuration . Add in other things and the weight goes up. BTW.. these two vehicles both have S/C'd OHV engines and both will F@CK up any one of Benzes comparable configs.. still costing $10Ks less.. NOW THAT.. IS EFFICIENCY

The 4.0L Bi-Turbo was told to me as being 460lbs before the intercooler and dressing. The LT4's weight includes everything. At best, they are same weight once one includes the Benz's intercooler. The AMG engine is down by almost 50 hp on the LT4, which should certainly get it a slightly better fuel economy, especially when paired to a tranny with one extra gear.

Yes?

Well.. personally I hate Hyundai.. and anyone that defends them I wouldn't mind seeing go ? themselves as well. I love GM.. and Ford because they have history.. they make great vehicles still.. and they are American. Absolutely. This year alone. GM's only failure when U really look at it.. is their inability to.. NO SCRATCH THAT.. unwillingness to market properly or enuff. I actually believe in my heart of hearts that GM is killing the Cruze, for instance, because they can not make money off of it under UAW manufacturing contracts. The money they would use, that foreign manufacturers use to advertise their small cars is the same money GM (and Ford.. and Chrysler) have to use to pay UAW salaries.

6.2L is a OHV engine. Cam in block.. still physically smaller than the 4L DOHC engines. If I remember correctly a Mercedes 4.0L engine, undressed and without the turbo intercoolers, that resides in the S63 weighs in at 460lbs. The 6.2L in the Stingray fully dressed weighs in at 460lbs