Flybrian

Any of the above. The choice is yours.

No $h!. At some Pontiac dealers, a Solstice runs $4-6k above sticker and the G6 'vert has about another grand added on.

I suppose its possible. My Olds does the same and I don't think anything negative of it. I do think one particular readout is amusing. After about a half mile with the indicator, the car dings and reads "TURN SIGNAL ON ?" Although, if that sort of subliminal programming works, maybe all GMs should display "Hey, check out that new Tahoe"

In my old neighborhood, the guy across the street from me owned a 1995 Buick Regal Limited in pristine condition. A few houses down, an older man had a 1991 Cadillac Sedan DeVille also in exemplary shape. To me, taking care of your car is way cool. Where I live now, notsomuch. Between the Daewoo with no wheel covers and the Mazda3 with a fartcan tip, I'm more impressed with my own driveway.

Olds needed more time pure and simple. I don't see how you can look at any of the new Oldsmobiles and really call them 'yuppie wagons.' Aurora and Intrigue did nothing but uphold Oldsmobile's tradition of being the spearhead of American automotive innovation with the aforementioned 4.0l V8, PCS on the Intrigue, and distinctive styling. The fact that Aurora competed very, very favorably against the Q, ES, and Legend/RL as well as the Lincoln Continental and blew away the LHS tells me that these cars had appeal that bridged wide gaps other GM products couldn't. On a pure styling note, you can't simply brand them as 'jellybean.' Look at the Aurora for one. Note the composte headlamps, the clean grilleless front fascia, sculpted tail, wraparound rear glass, framless windows, and area ruled flanks. Even in generally smooth cars like the earlier 929 and later Taurus, the truly original detailing mentioned above is noticably absent. In those cases, you simply get a round car. In Olds' case, you get something distinct and original. Also, look at the new Oldsmobile's ideas - the cute-ute Recon debuted in 1998. Imagine that hitting the lots in 1999. See ya, CR-V. Imagine the Profile making the rounds in 2000 and up for sale the following year. See ya, Highlander. And then the O4, showcased in '01 and being sold in late summer of '02. Beetle 'vert wha? That's what would've kept Oldsmobile around. In fact, it was the very presence of gauche lameness like the Cutlass Ciera that hurt Olds more than anything. As far as geriatrics go, well, I wouldn't describe Marc as 'geriatric' - more, say, an older gentleman - but he loves his '01 Aurora. Alot of older folks really do have taste and don't just want a cheap, decontented boat with a ton of chrome.

Welcome to Sketch Competition #5! Small cars have always been part of the American automotive landscape, though traditionally more crabgrass than St. Augustine; yeah, its green and it fills up your lawn, but it still looks cheap and it sucks. Apply the same school of thought to a Tercel or Civic or Escort. But the recent years have shown that smaller cars can attain a certain level of appeal and while the MINI Cooper is the poster child for this new movement, evidence can been seen elsewhere. Even entrants like the Mazda3, Nissan Versa, and Dodge Caliber whose precedessors were anything but appealing are reborn with navigation, traction and stability control, and unique design and equipment features. Your task, should you choose to accept it, is to sketch what your ideal GM small car would be. Your sketch should include at minimum 2 (two) of the following: -3/4 Front View -3/4 Rear View -Interior View Remember, people will be voting based on the overall presentation of your entry, so the more views, the better, including ones not specifically listed above. Aside from 800x600 size guidelines, remember this car will be small in exterior dimension (think no larger than Cobalt). Exactly how small is up to you. You're also encouraged to be very creative and to make mention of unique features you'd like to see on a car. Consider that odd ideas that wouldn't normally be accepted on a larger, mainstream car is completely normal is this segment. No restrictions on bodystyle, powerplant, number of wheels (if you're really crazy), height, or division. Basically, think about how YOU would want a small car. This is a segment GM hasn't successfully competed in so far, so let's show them what we can do! The winner will recieve a GM-related prize! Deadline is Tuesday, June 13th@ 11:59PM your local time. Good luck!

I would argue Mercedes is quickly becoming second-tier with many of its lackluster products.

If you will kindly notice, the two 'delays' you speak of were both brought upon by large changes with the site. The RWD Pontiac one because it occured in the aftermath of the crash, and this delay because of the switchover to the new server. I do understand your concern and apologize for the delay, but please - as I said on the front page - have a little bit of patience as we work to get everything back in order. Thank you. P.S. I must say, I'm happy that we have this complaint because Sketch hasn't always been the most popular competition. I suppose that's changed.

Me, too. And...me, too. We all knew/know what the Camaro was going to be, even before the concept came out. These other Zetas could literally be anything, and that's very tantalizing.

I'd argue there is more to that than rote dimensions. Anything from styling to the fact that its a Cadillac.

1) Not more, same amount. 2) You do realize the colors are virutally the same anyway, right?

Perhaps this would be a concern if I were moving to Bonn and exporting my car with me, but explain where in this country aside from older, historic downtown areas in New England is parking not generally designed for a larger American car? Also, less length does not really make your car more manuverable; it may make it easier to fit in smaller spaces, but wheel articulation and turning radius is where it counts in terms of manuverability. Again, my car is massive as all get out. I've certainly come upon parking spaces where, yes, I could've parked or a situation where I could've made a U-turn 10 seconds earlier if I had a dinky little Yaris, but I simply parked a few spaces out or waitied for a wider gap in traffic. I just don't see where its that big of a deal, especially in this country. We're not talking Buick Centurion vs. Mini Cooper anyway.

If a few inches on a midsized car really affects your ability to drive, you should not be driving. Period.

Scion tC Spec? I think one of our Mods need to sue...

Thanks! And thanks, all. If I have my way, this Rocket will fly for years and years and years.

Some still haven't come close to figuring it out...

Doesn't Caddycrusier do detailing as a business of some sort? In any case, Zaino works. Just look at our 2000 Bonneville for proof. Polished and pampered since day one and it looks better than it did when we picked it up, as if six years of harsh Florida sun didn't exist.

Faster (so you can get back to the service center quicker). Like None Other.

Funny... But as said before, this is just a field filled with a bunch of rotting unrecoverable junk now. Sad to see someone let it go that bad.

This is a bad styling trait common to lots of cars these days, notably the Camry, Accord, Avalon, and Passat. Make even 17" wheels look dinky.

'Ginormous Kelly Brock'

According to SAAB's own comparison, a 9-3 Aero sedan has -Dual-zone climate control -Automatic headlamps -Front power memory seat That isn't standard on the AERO 'vert.

I'd be a little more impressed with Infiniti's V8 if it didn't suck where it counts.

No, you want the car to have appeal.

Well, Cort, the side you show the world is up to you.