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I've been looking for this for a while...
FUTURE_OF_GM replied to FUTURE_OF_GM's topic in Merchandise Lookout
I dunno what has happened to the corporate sites, but they seem to have been a whole lot of suck for a while http://www.chevymall.com For some reason, when they redesigned the site they removed a lot of the cooler merchandise. http://www.pontiacmall.com Has always sucked and seems to be an afterthought. http://www.gmccollection.com The GMC collection is finally up and has some neat stuff even though the selection is limited http://www.buickmerchandise.com Nice to see that Buick has a site again, even if all the stuff looks as if it's from 1985. http://www.cadillaccollection.com Cadillac's store went to 'dealer exclusive' for a while but now appears to be back up and running. http://www.hummerstuff.com I want to buy this entire site just to piss the liberals off. http://www.saturncollection.com/ Saturn stuff. http://www.saabexpressions.com Is well done, I guess. If you're a Saab fan. I guess the only way to get Oldsmobile stuff is through a 3rd party or the heritage center. -
http://cgi.ebay.com/Death-by-Pontiac-T-Shi...%3A1%7C294%3A50 and picked this one up as well: http://cgi.ebay.com/Pontiac-Power-T-Shirt-...%3A1%7C294%3A50 I know you guys aren't into the whole, heavy metal, flames and skulls thing like I am, but I think it's cool. :AH-HA_wink: I'm trying to build a collection of retro/rat rod style shirts for every GM and domestic division. Every little bit helps when it comes to support IMO.
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House Republicans throw wrench in the works
FUTURE_OF_GM replied to Intrepidation's topic in Industry News
Well, That settles it... I used to side with the repubs on a lot, but this is the line. How can this party be so out-of-touch with america and, literally full of $h!? By god, the financial buddies get whatever they want, but the auto industry has to beg and beg.... -
I'm right there with you... I don't think anything like this will ever fly, but if it does I hope SEMA fights it. In other news, NC today is voting on a "fuel consumption tax"
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We have a Dog Bar in our neighborhood and they we're offering a $100 bar tab to the best dressed dog (owner, or course) For those of you that are not familiar with a dog bar, it's exactly what it sounds like. A bar, usually mostly outside but sometimes with a small inside area, where you can take you dogs and watch them play while you socialize and have a drink. It's tons of fun, if you're a dog person but don't wear nice clothes on a normal night We dressed our two dogs up and went with a couple of other people that dressed their dogs up. (This is a REAL dog friendly community) Max, our jack russell, dachshund, chihuahua mix, was a rockstar: Obviously, he wasn't very happy about being dressed up, LOL. Cali, our "chiweenie" (chihuahua, dachshund mix) was a catholic school girl: We were going for the whole bad boy/good girl theme. This is Evan, one of our friends dogs as a pimp: This is Leo, our other friends Italian Greyhound as a cop: Leo actually had a criminal counterpart (The lady owns another Italian Greyhound) but I don't have a picture. Here's Evan 'pimping' Cali, LOL And a random Great Dane angel at Dog Bar: And for those of you who just like looking at random pics, like I do; here is a slideshow from our bar on Halloween night. Most of the people who are dressed up are locals/daily folks and people that work at the bar or own businesses in the 'hood. http://www.flickr.com/photos/32080790@N07/...564998794/show/ The slideshow is from Solstice Tavern WARNING: Due to our head cook's hairy ass, these photos might not be workplace safe. (And no, he was NOT working that night, LOL)
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Shameless self promotion: I guess my idea of expanding Buick into the volume player in the B/P/GMC channel was a good one. I really think the sky is the limit with Buick *IF* GM takes the positive aspects of the division and build upon them. Not to mention, GM could feasibly make a healthy profit from an expanded 'premium' Buick. I think this version of Pontiac is a bit more true to the heritage of the division and (HOPEFULLY) where GM wants to take the division. The G8 is just too expensive/hard to sell to the desired clientele IMO. The new Alpha G6 can be a cheaper, yet just as impressive offering. All the while, it promotes a more fuel efficient image AND enthusiasts who are willing to pay for a premium V8 Pontiac will get what they desire via the GXP, GTO and Judge. The Solstice can continue to be the poster child and build serious performance credibility for the division and the Vibe can offer a NON-TRADITIONAL (!!!) entry point to capture the youth market and people who need utility. GMC needs to really work to promote their name through nicer, more targeted products and marketing. Profitability is the game they're playing now and GM has an excellent foundation for which to build an equitable franchise from. With Saturn, I merely took resources that the company already has and turned a positive into a negative. Like it or not, Saturn has potential and GME has a good plan. We can build a niche for Saturn and future expansion can occur. At the same time, we can prop up Saab until the new product gets here and establish the brand. These two brands could really become a GM powerhouse in the future. But, GM must be patient and BUILD their identities. Idealistically, GM will have 3 core brands 1) Chevrolet 2) Buick/GMC 3) Cadillac and then 3 niche brands 1) Pontiac (enthusiasts) 2) Saturn (urnbanites) 3) Saab (techies) for a total of 6... Just like in "the golden era".
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But will it be better than the competition? It'll be another "good enough" Aura/Astra style vehicle, I guess.
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So... What will this essentially replace? The Aura? The G6? And WHY-O-WHY is it positioned against the Camry and Accord? Isn't that Chevrolet's job?
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How I would structure General Motors North America. (Broken down into 5 sections) DISCLAIMER: I decided to sit down the other day and try to come up with a pretty cohesive plan for the future of GM given the market and their tough financial situation. My plan is probably a little on the heavy side and might need better focus. But keep in mind; although I put A LOT of thought into it, I didn’t directly research anything. So feel free to post whatever you want about the plan; criticisms, acclaims, adjustments, anything. But just remember, I’m an amateur and it’s a work in progress. SECTION 1: COMPANY & DIVISIONAL GOALS AND NOTES. General Motors: Times are tough right now for GM. The industry is more competitive than ever, the economy is in a trough and the image of the company as a whole continues to be tarnished. Most of you know that I am a very pessimistic person, but for every negative there is a positive, just like every night brings a dawn. GM, despite all the negativity and tough times, has more of an opportunity to transform itself in the next 5 years than it has enjoyed in the last 30 years. Sure, CAFÉ and high gas prices have changed the automotive landscape indefinitely, but with that change comes opportunity and long-term profitability. First, no longer must GM admit to being a truck company which happens to make cars. As tough as it has been financially, the market corrected this problem that GM has been wrestling with for years. No longer does GM have to take a back seat to competitors in innovation. E-Flex is up and running and WILL reinvent the automobile if GM leverages the technology to it’s fullest potential. No longer are people so ‘brand’ or ‘size’ loyal that they refuse to shop other companies. Gas prices are FORCING people to think outside of the box and find new solutions for their transportation needs that most might not have considered even 2 years ago. So, in the most optimistic terms, one could go as far as saying GM almost has a fresh slate for both itself and it’s divisions. The automobile is being re-invented, the market has been turned upside down and finally the country seems to be waking up to the fact that domestically produced goods might be a good investment after all. GM should ‘seize the day’ as fast as it can. Management needs to promote the company as one cohesive unit that provides answers to ANY and ALL transportation needs the market has. At it’s peak, GM had a car for everyone and that should still be the case today. No more ‘Detroit; stodgy business men; crappy plastic car’ image. GM needs to leverage alternative fuels and E-Flex to promote itself as a leader in all technology. At the same time, GM needs to inform the consumer that it’s quality AS A WHOLE is on par or better than the asian companies, AND it needs to inform the consumer of what it can offer that the asian companies cannot: STYLE. People need to DESIRE to drive GM vehicles. GM will NEVER win the comparison in logic between their cars and [insert asian brand here] because people are too jaded to see the truth. Therefore, GM must initially infiltrate the buyers through their hearts instead of their minds. This is what made GM great and it is crucial in relation to the company seeing another 100 years in this cutthroat market. In short: GM needs to promote itself as a global company with American flavor. It needs to cash in on sentimentalism all the while showing the consumer that it’s operations and business practices around the globe are first rate. This company has A LOT to be proud of and it’s okay to show that to the consumer and correct some of the blatantly wrong attitude and perception out there. GM doesn’t have to reinvent the wheel, because people know that they already ‘invented the wheel’. They just need to make a better wheel that is easier to use, better to look at and does a better job. Chevrolet: Increasingly, Chevrolet IS General Motors and vice versa. Because of that, going forward Chevrolet needs to be GM’s top priority. Chevrolet needs COHESIVE, quality product that sells well around the globe. Does Chevy need strictly generic, FWD small cars? Not entirely, but in order for the division to continue expanding (Which it must do if GM is to survive) global product is vital. The Cruze seems to be a good start from a quality and performance standpoint. However, a little more ‘american flavor’ in the design would be nice. You can’t get much more ‘american’ than Chevrolet, so why not own that identity and celebrate it in the best possible ways. To do so would exhibit pride in the corporation and to a lesser extent, pride in american design and culture. Chevrolets key phrase is EXPANSION. Pontiac: Pontiac has no global footprint and a rather tarnished image, according to some. But that doesn’t make the division worthless. Brand equity, CAFE and volume/share are all good enough reasons to keep the division alive. I’ll save the more specific arguments for later. Going forward Pontiac will have the most focused line up of any GM division. This is for a number of reasons; 1) To repair the image of the division 2) To compliment Buick and Chevrolet now with less overlap 3) To not soak up too much investment. 4) To cater to a specific base of buyers that want smaller volume. And 5) To make the division easy to phase out IF needed. In order to repair Pontiac, GM must do something that it’s not used to: under promise and over deliver. The key phrase for Pontiac is QUALITY OVER QUANTITY. GMC: Gone for now are the days of GMC being the second best selling division at GM, so GMC must focus on profitability. GMC IS the GM truck division, and likewise it is a mid-lux counterpart to Buick in the B/P/GMC channel. For the future, if a customer desires a real truck or luxury truck, they’ll go to GMC, not Cadillac and not Chevrolet. Certain parts of GMC will also fill the role of Hummer after it is sold. The reason for this is simple; GMC already has a great reputation established as a maker of fine, upscale trucks and the market as a whole is moving AWAY from trucks. So, the volume division (Chevy) needs to chase volume and the luxury division (Cadillac) needs a more capable competitor for the new European unibody luxury crossovers. The key phrase for GMC is PROFITABILITY or R.O.I. Buick: Given it’s success in China, the warm reception here to the Enclave, the potential growth of the mid-lux market at the expense of luxury makers (economy, fuel and transaction prices) and GM’s ability to pump fresh product into the division immediately, I think Buick is prime for expansion. In fact, I think Buick should become the dominant franchise in the B/P/GMC channel. There simply is no sense in this channel trying to sling ‘lesser’ (Thanks to Chevrolet getting all of the big $$$ and a better image) volume Pontiacs at the same market as GM’s afore mentioned volume division. Can my Pontiac line up pull volume? Sure, but not much compared to Chevy. So I would rather this channel focus on PROFIT per car sold. The Chevrolet channel can sell numbers and make money that way, this channel can sell less (Because, they aren’t volume divisions anyway) with higher transaction prices by way of an extended and FRESH Buick line and still make good money. The new Buick will compete (ON A LUXURY, STYLE AND COMFORT LEVEL) with the Lexus ES, Acura and Infiniti. The majority of buyers only care about that (As opposed to drivetrain and performance) anyway. And if Buick isn’t enough, they’ll have a small volume line from Pontiac and exclusive rights to the ONLY GM luxury truck division to complement. The key phrase for Buick: REDEFINE and EXPAND. Cadillac: Cadillac should be the standard of the world. That means no watering down, no volume chasing and no compromises. As a result, Cadillac needs to develop a more cohesive line up, work very hard to establish a larger global footprint, work even harder to push up transaction prices and resale and deliver the best that money can buy from GM. As of right now, Cadillac doesn’t need to worry about volume, it needs to build excellent vehicles all around the world. Once that focus is met, the volume will come naturally. The key phrase for Cadillac: TAKE IT TO THE NEXT LEVEL. Saturn: In the 90’s Saturn excelled with one car. The public, a large portion of it that wouldn’t and still won’t buy GM, came to love the division for the “forward thinking” it displayed. To most, Saturn’s expertise is small cars and given the increasing small car market, they are key because they can sell to those who would never buy a traditional GM vehicle. There is a HUGE portion of the population that would not consider a Pontiac or Chevy, but might give Saturn a try. That’s WHY Saturn has so much potential and that’s WHY Saturn SHOULD NOT BE COMPETING WITH OTHER GM DIVISIONS! Saturn’s problem is that it’s been the most schizophrenic division on the market now for about 10 years. It has no identity, no specific mission and very few customers who aren’t confused by the Ion- to -Sky transformation. So now Saturn’s REVISED mission is to once again do what it was so good at and become GM’s small car division. The same people who think it’s not cool to buy GM (You know, the diehard vocal people) are the same people who rank high on politics, the environment, fashion and technology. Saturn must first create an image for itself as a fashionable technology/green division that is truly unique from anything else GM offers. (That was the initial goal anyway, right? And they have already started this, in case you haven’t noticed) and then become THE GM offering for this demographic of people by delivering on their promises and reinforcing the image this demographic portrays. The key phrase for Saturn: RE-ESTABLISH YOUR IDENTITY and BECOME THE ANTI-GM. Saab: With Saabs heritage and the image the Swedish companies enjoy, it has HUGE potential now that the automobile is becoming more technology focused and green. This is another brand, like Saturn, that seems to slip by the “anti-GMers” sentiment that is so popular in our society. But alas, Rome wasn’t built in a day and neither will a Saab buyer base. So, for now, Saab needs to establish itself in America AND abroad. The best way to do this is through technology. Saab can, in spirit, become the new Oldsmobile in that it can be the new technology division at GM. At one time, GM tried to pair Oldsmobile and Cadillac and use Olds as a step to Cadillac ownership. Now that Saab is paired with Cadillac in the sales channels it can occupy that exact position, except with it’s own ‘heritage inspired niche” (as inaccurate as that is) and less stigma. Key phrase for Saab: ESTABLISH YOURSELF. Hummer: SOLD to the highest bidder!!! Sad to see it go, but sometimes you have to cut some roots so the tree will survive. GMC will expand to occupy what is left of the Hummer niche. ***CHANGES: Revised the Saturn mission statement to reflect it’s new position as GM’s small car specialist.*** SECTION 2: PLATFORMS & SUBSEQUENT MODELS *** Before anyone gets too worked up, please see the explanation behind some of these decisions in section 3. *** The way I see it, GM can operate on 9 (Maybe fewer) global architectures. Here is the GMNA line up based on the nine I would refine and re-engineer for the future. Gamma: Engineered to provide much better and a wider variety of cars here than the current Aveo. Idealistically this platform will be AWD capable. 1) Chevrolet Beat (5 door) 2) Chevrolet Groove (wagon) 3) Saturn Agila (5 door) 4) Saturn Corsa (3 door & 5 door) 5) Saturn Tigra (convertible) 6) Saab 9-1 (3 door & wagon) Delta: Basically Delta II 1) Chevrolet Cruze, (sedan & coupe) 2) Chevrolet HHR (wagon) 3) Chevrolet Orlando (Just like the concept, a people mover) 4) Chevrolet Volt 5) Pontiac Vibe (wagon) 6) Delta Buick (sedan) 7) Saturn Astra (5 door & coupe) 8] Saturn Meriva (van) 9) Saab 9-3 (3 door, sedan & convertible) Epsilon: Basically Epsilon II. This platform can be stretched or widened to accommodate larger cars. 1) Chevrolet Malibu (sedan) 2) Buick Lacrosse (sedan) 3) Buick Invicta (convertible) 4) Buick Riviera (coupe) 5) Lucerne (sedan) 6) Saab 9-5 (5 door & wagon) Gamma, Delta & Epsilon seem to be where the heart of the market is going so the product is heavy on these platforms for obvious reasons. More models mean more chances for success and share. (As long as the models are differentiated in characteristics, price and channel) This part of the market is thick, so it can handle multiple entries from GM (And by that I mean 2; maybe 3 in some cases) The key here is to EXECUTE the product correctly. So many buyers have the thought that American small and intermediate cars are BAD, because for a long time they were. This new generation needs to extinguish that perception. Alpha: It is assumed that this platform could serve 2 purposes; it’s original goal and underpinning slightly larger, bigger displacement cars on a widened or stretched version. (a.k.a. available V8 power) 1) Chevrolet Camaro (coupe & convertible) 2) Pontiac G6 (sedan) 3) Pontiac GTO (Production limited coupe) 4) Cadillac BTS (sedan, coupe & wagon) Super Car: Formerly known as Y-Body, this platform can be re-engineered to be more flexible (As was rumored before C7 work stopped) and of course, better 1) Chevrolet Corvette (coupe & convertible) 2) Pontiac Solstice (coupe & convertible) 3) Cadillac Cien (coupe) Omega: The Zeta and Sigma hybrid or a lightened Zeta for future vehicles. CARS: 1) Chevrolet Impala (sedan) 2) Cadillac CTS (sedan, coupe, wagon & convertible) 3) Cadillac DTS (sedan & coupe) 4) Cadillac Sixteen (sedan) TRUCKS: 1) Chevrolet Colorado (Basically a de-contented Denali XT) 2) Chevrolet El Camino (Basically the G8 ST) 3) Cadillac Escalade (A new uni-body ute to better battle new entries from MB and the like) Theta: Encompasses both Theta and Theta Premium (a.k.a Theta-Eps) 1) Chevrolet Equinox 2) GMC Terrain 3) Buick Theta 4) Cadillac SRX 5) Saab 9-4X Lambda: As is, except with updates. 1) Chevrolet Traverse 2) GMC Acadia 3) Buick Enclave 4) Ridgeline style vehicle? GMT-1000: Since “real” trucks will supposedly become LESS important in the future, why not take a play from Nissan's strategy (except do it right) and build all of your real trucks from one platform that can accommodate multiple sizes and flavors instead of building from both the forthcoming GMT700 and full size platforms? 1) Chevrolet Silverado 2) Chevrolet Silverado HD 3) Chevrolet Suburban 4) GMC Sierra 5) GMC Sierra HD 6) GMC Canyon 7) GMC Yukon 8] GMC Savanna ***CHANGES: Added and cancelled the appropriate models.*** SECTION 3: DIVISIONAL BREAKDOWN This section is meant to kind of segment the vehicles on a size and status basis and breakdown why specific vehicles are on specific platforms. Chevrolet: is the volume division and as a result needs to remain relatively neutral in its offerings, for the most part. By that I mean, user friendly and value based, not boring and de-contented. The meat of the line up needs to be attractive basic transportation for anyone. 1) Beat & Groove: Basic transportation with no extravagance. No performance models, those belong at Saturn. 2) Cruze, HHR & Orlando: Cruze and Orlando need to be best quality and value in the class. HHR; same execution, except with heritage inspired sheet metal and character. GM has a niche here that has BIG potential if buyers migrate to small cars like some expect. The HHR can become an image car for Chevy if the market swings that way. 3) Malibu & Camaro: Malibu keeps going strong, while Camaro is downsized to Alpha. SS models could feasibly be V6 equipped while the line topping Z28 features a V8 and lower production. 4) Corvette, Impala & Volt - The halo cars. These three represent the very best at Chevy. Corvette keeps going strong, with the top trim continuing to be the fastest production car at GM. Impala is basically what the G8 was except with Chevrolet sheet metal (hopefully the 60s inspired design we heard of) Production is relatively small both because of lower demand and CAFÉ. Volt continues to revolutionize the automobile. Chevy Trucks: Drastic changes are coming for the truck market. The volume of the market is moving away from BOF vehicles and that gives us a chance to get creative. Since Chevy IS GM’s volume division and GM already has another excellent truck division, Chevy needs to move with the market. 1) Colorado & El Camino: Bring on the Holdens! The Colorado is basically a Chevy Denali XT (Minus some of the bells and whistles) and the El Camino is basically the G8 ST with Chevy cues. (Can even share the same body work as the Colorado or even Impala for the real purists) If people want to buy a true BOF small truck, they can go to GMC. The bulk of the market will probably end up here though. 2) Equinox: With expanded significance in Chevy’s line up, the Equinox is now SUV #1 to go head to head with the Highlander. 3) Traverse: The Traverse is the volume program off of Lambda and should be used to pull in Tahoe and Trailblazer buyers as well as large crossover buyers. 4) Silverado & Silverado HD: Don’t mess with success. Even though BOF SUVs seem to be a thing of the past, trucks will continue to be strong sellers because a lot of people need them. Therefore, both Chevy and GMC can continue to sell trucks. In this iteration, the Silverado absorbs the Avalanche midgate technology to save on marketing, build costs and CAFÉ concerns. I toyed around with keeping the Avalanche name in some form or another, but Silverado Avalanche edition was just too much IMO. 5) Suburban: Call me sentimental, but I just can’t kill off such a long-standing name. And I also wanted Chevy to keep at least one BOF offering. So, for those that need it, the Suburban will, as always, be there in the background at your local Chevy dealer. *** FUTURE PRODUCT IDEA: E Flex Silverado line. GMC: Now we can focus our attention on GM’s other truck division. GMC will morph even more into a mid-lux or “Professional Grade” division. It doesn’t have to sell volume because of high R.O.I. GMC will expand to pick up a few die-hard Chevy people, Hummer clientele and some Escalade buyers. 1) Terrain: This will be one of two Theta SUVs in the B/P/GMC showroom. The way it works is that THIS Theta is what the HX was supposed to be. Lower level Terrains can pick up Wrangler and would be Bronco buyers while the Alpha trim can appeal to would be Hummer HX buyers. The Buick theta will likely pull most of the volume between the two offerings because it will be less extreme and more simplistic in execution. That fits right in with Buick becoming the lead franchise in the channel. 2) Acadia: Keep it simple. The Acadia will be largely unchanged from what it is now. The reason is so that it can continue to draw in buyers looking for a simple crossover or SUV (The people GMC has been appealing very WELL to for quite a while now) The Enclave will be bumped up market as the premium Lambda (Now that the Escalade is on Omega and is a horse of a different color) and as a result will sell at higher prices than the Acadia. 3) Canyon: GM’s coverage for those that want a true small truck. It can be had from the basics all the way up to the Alpha trim that essentially makes it GMC’s version of the H3T (Not bigger, just better off road) 4) Sierra, Sierra HD & Savanna: Sierra and Sierra HD will continue, just like the Silverado. However, they will continue to carve out a more premium image than the Silverado through the Denali and Alpha trim levels. The Savanna was left at GMC for a number of reasons. 1) It can be a good volume booster 2) GMC is GM’s truck/commercial division 3) Chevrolet already has a big people mover in the form of Suburban 4) Conversion vans seem to come across better with the premium GMC image. 5) Yukon: This Yukon is supposed to be a bit smaller than the current Yukon, for CAFÉ purposes. This is the SUV for those left in the market who just MUST have a BOF SUV. The Denali version will bring in ex-Cadillac Escalade buyers who are turned off by the new Escalade. I made this decision because the average Denali buyer has a higher income than the average Escalade buyer. So while the Escalade sells image, Denali sells product. The image buyers are likely going to fade because of the economy. So the Denali is the more stable choice. The Alpha trim will reel in H2/H3 buyers as it will be the more efficient, better-executed ‘tough truck’ offering from GM. *** FUTURE PRODUCT IDEA: E-Flex Terrain and Yukon. Buick: Buick is becoming the lead franchise in the B/P/GMC channel. My idea here is to have Buick positioned IN COMPARISON TO; not AT, Audi. It needs to sell premium cars that convey conservative luxury with a hint of technology. And by that I mean, the technology is there, but style and amenities are the main sellers. 1) Delta Buick (Insert name here): This needs to be a well-rounded, nice luxury car. It needs to be an easy sell to people who want to try the division, or GM, out. Not many options, not many variations, just a solid car to introduce luxury into the segment. 2) Lacrosse, Invicta & Riviera: This will become the meat of the Buick line up. They can share the same basic styling and mechanicals to minimize investment. But the marketing and promotion need to be top notch to get ‘butts in the seats’ This trio should be Epsilon at it’s best on the luxury front. 3) Lucerne: A big, traditional luxury car for those that still want one. AWD might be nice to have but emphasis is on luxury and comfort. If the buyer wants performance or better performance dynamics he can go for the more capable Impala at the Chevrolet dealer. 4) Theta Buick (Rendezvous?): The volume Theta in this channel should mirror the Delta Buick in its simplistic nature. A good all around package for those interested in trying Buick. These ‘entry cars’ need to convey the new image of Buick instead of trying to be what they’re not; old, floaty and tacky (to some). 5) Enclave: The top of the line on the Lambda platform and at the Buick dealer. The Enclave should continue to be a status symbol for big, plush beautiful design. This is the ‘traditional’ Buick to aspire to own. Idealistically it will sell near the top of the B/P/GMC channel in pricing. *** FUTURE PRODUCT IDEA: E Flex Epsilon luxury sedan “Electra” Pontiac: You all know that Pontiac is my favorite GM division. Now, before you traditionalists look at this and write it off as , think about what I’m doing for a second… Consider the following: 1) Pontiac, like it or not IS the entry point to the P/B/GMC division. 2) Like it or not, GM cannot get the margins that cars like the G8 are going to need to keep selling them through Pontiac (a.k.a. Pontiac transaction prices aren’t good at all and can’t justify the investment the division needs) 3) Like it or not, Pontiac is going to have to rebuild it’s image or die. (Either totally or in spirit as it becomes cloned Chevies) 4) The market is resizing and Pontiac MUST cash in on that to survive and be relevant in the eyes of buyers. Now consider these points: 1) Pontiac has a TREMENDOUS history of building SMALL performance cars. The original GTO is a great example, they took a relatively small car and mounted a huge engine in it. The Firebird and Trans Am were both small cars for their time. The Fierro is another excellent example of how well Pontiac builds small cars. 2) Pontiac also has a history of finding ways to make big power out of smaller engines. The turbo Trans Ams are just one example of this. Now fast forward to 2008 when the flagship Pontiac to MOST of the public is THAT EXACT FORMULA, a small car with a turbocharged engine. Pontiac has accomplished SO MUCH with the Solstice, both from a performance standpoint and an image standpoint. Everyone I talk to loves the car and wants to see more like it, even if they hate Pontiac. So, for the future, we’re going to focus on delivering actual sport tuned Pontiacs in the segments in which Pontiac can make GM money. I choose to keep the G6 name because even though it's dumb, part of me thinks we need to take a page from Cadillac’s playbook and emphasize the PONTIAC name to rebuild the image of the division and increase it’s equity. To kick things off; The Vibe will be AWD and offer best in class performance. Even if GMPD has to tune the car, it will deliver a driving experience matched by few other competitors. Pontiac's cars need to be focused, pre-packaged sales in that they come in limited body styles and feature limited power train options. (Partially to reduce investment) Chevrolet can offer their performance models to try and match these cars. However, Pontiac gets exclusive rights to AWD and maybe a few higher-grade performance bits and drivetrain options. Remember, Pontiac IS PREMIUM TO CHEVROLET, after all. The ONLY ‘friendly’ competition the low level Pontiac will have is the much more expensive and much different Saab 9-1. I doubt the two will ever be cross-shopped. 1) Vibe: We begin with the GT as the base model and expand from their to add more Pontiac identity, more of a premium feel and more performance. Think Mini Clubman, except cheaper. 2) G6 & GTO (Grand Prix & GTO): This model could either be used to push volume OR build Pontiacs credentials as a performance division. Most G6’s will be V6 or 4 cylinder equipped and feature excellent driving dynamics (except not tuned by GMPD. They can only tune the GXP. I don’t want to encroach on Cadillac turf) The GXP and limited production GTO coupe will feature a V8. Or we could even make the V8 an option on the G6 GXP in favor of a blown V6 if CAFE becomes a problem. G6 will be the ONLY RWD sedan offering of this size and price available from GM. 3) Solstice: The Solstice will basically be a de-contented Corvette that has been designed for the track. It could have a base power plant of a turbo 4 or 6 cylinder depending on how light and small it is. The GXP would be a full-blown, track ready V8 or blown 6 or 4-cylinder car. Idealistically, the Solstice GXP should AT LEAST be able to out perform the BASE Corvette on the track, if not in all aspects. Then, of course, it could be built by its owner to perform even better. Because, lets face it, most people buy base Corvettes for boulevard cruising. The Z06 and ZR1 are where it’s at in Corvette land. If the Supercar architecture needs volume, this car should help things out. The Solstice will be a true sports car as opposed to a more tame traditional performance coupe (Think: fourth gen Camaro verses previous GTO –or- Ford Mustang verses Nissan 350Z… Different demeanors and different flavors) If the buyer wants a traditional coupe, then they can walk across the room to the GTO or they can shop the Buick Riviera and Invicta. *** FUTURE PRODUCT IDEA: E Flex sports car. Cadillac: The number one priority for Cadillac right now should be the BTS line and development of Alpha to roll out across the globe. Other than that, the mission is simple: become the best again. 1) BTS: Priority one. This will help establish Cadillac as a global brand and is the most appropriate business move for the times. Volume will come with excellent execution, so volume should not be the primary motivation. 2) CTS: Keep this line up fresh. It has the most equity of any Cadillac line now and is vital to Cadillac’s success. 3) DTS: Priority number two. You can’t claim to be the standard of the world with a 15-year-old, FWD V6 flagship. In the new scheme of things, the CTS can compete with the 5 series and this car will compete with the 7 series. 4) SRX: The perfect place for hybrid and plug in technology to make a MAJOR appearance in the Cadillac line. Not only is this the right vehicle, it’s also the right segment as Cadillac can now directly counter the Lexus RX hybrid. 5) Cien & Sixteen: These cars might be pie in the sky right now, but plans need to be made now about entering these segments. If Cadillac is to be what it should be, someday it must take on the top players in the luxury market (RR, Bentley, Lambo, Maserati) The Sixteen should be very true to the concept and the Cien could become the mid-engined ‘vette project we’ve heard rumors about. Instead of basically being a derivative of the Corvette (a la XLR) the Cien should be a more direct competitor to cars outside of the prestige and price category of the Corvette. Even though the top trim Corvette might be a bit faster, it will be geared more toward the track than the custom tailored luxury of the Cien. Power for these cars will likel come from a V8 or V12 powerplant. 6) Escalade: The Escalade can do battle for luxury crossover sales with MB and BMW. People who want 'soft' luxury can opt for the Enclave and those who have to have a BOF truck can go to GMC. Going forward, the Escalade needs to be more pure in driving dynamics than the current truck. *** FUTURE PRODUCT IDEA: Escalade EXT from Omega? Saab: Saab must first establish itself as a serious competitor before it can expand further. To do that will require fresh products and a technological image. Saab is essentially the new Oldsmobile on the technology front with a lot of Swedish character thrown in. 1) 9-1: 3 door (as a throwback to classic Saabs) that introduces luxury and performance to the small car segment. In the small end of the market, this IS GM’s only luxury offering and provides a door into the Saab/Cadillac channel for ‘junior execs’ 2) 9-3: Saab’s bread and butter model with the traditional offerings as well as the throw back 3-door design. If one car represents what Saab is, this should be it. 3) 9-5: This is where Saab and Cadillac merge in the channel. The 9-5 is the option for those that value an image of technology and European style over that of the more extravagant and performance biased Cadillac BTS. 4) 9-4X: Saab’s first REAL foray into the crossover market has to be executed absolutely correctly. This should be another volume seller for Saab. (Along with the 9-3) *** FUTURE PRODUCT IDEA: Saab 9-2X, a Delta based crossover. Saturn: GM’s style conscious, anti-GM division that caters to people who otherwise wouldn’t buy GM. The goal here is to establish a definite identity at this division and then expand as fast as possible. Hopefully someday, Saturn will be complementary to Chevrolet as a GM volume division. The target demographic is anyone from VW to Mini, to Acura. The ‘techies’ as some like to call them or ‘Gen Xers’ that maybe haven’t even had a lot of exposure to GM cars. 1) Agila: To compete head on with SMART. This car should outclass it in every way. 2) Corsa & Tigra: Focuses on technology, efficiency and style. Not plebian like a Chevrolet. Think: Saab-lite with an Opel edge. This is a full on assault to challenge American conventional wisdom about how nice and fun a small car can be. 3) Meriva: This van is exclusive to Saturn now and should be a better sale than average minivans in urban areas. Saturn should work hard to flesh out this niche in both commercial (Give it a nicer, quaint euro image instead of an American ‘stripped down’ image) and retail sales. 4) Astra: Again, the focus is on technology, efficiency and dynamics here. The FULL LINE needs to be brought over as this will serve as Saturn's new flagship. *** FUTURE PRODUCT IDEA: More Opels… If the division really takes off by offering European cars and small cars, then build on the success with Zafira, Corsavan, the Combo and the Astravan. *** CHANGES: The Pontiac G3 and Pontiac G4 have been discontinued entirely to give Chevrolet and Saturn more room in the compact and sub-compact class. This move was also made to try and begin establishing Pontiac as a PREMIUM brand in relation to Chevrolet, the division it most closely overlaps with. The Pontiac Vibe has been redefined with it's focus and Pontiac's focus in the entry level market narrowed. The idea is for Pontiac to offer the consumer an entry into the division instead of trying to cater to the entry market as a whole. The Saturn Aura, Sky, Vue and Ridgeline competitor have all been cancelled. The Saturn Aura niche will now be covered by Buick in an attempt to expand that brand to a new clientele and build sales. Saturn Sky sales can be absorbed by the Chevrolet Camaro on the low end and the Pontiac GTO and Solstice on the high end. Saturn Vue sales will now be picked up by the GMC Terrain and Buick Theta. The Ridgeline Competitor will now be offered to Chevy or GMC, depending on the fate of the existing Lambda crossovers and how similar it is to either the Canyon or Colorado. In exchange and as part of it' new mission, Saturn adds Agila, Tigra and Meriva for a full on assault into the urban and small car market. This is the same market that a traditional GM division probably wouldn't have much success.*** SECTION 4: THE SALES CHANNELS This section is meant to provide an illustration of the stair step effect, size and price relationship of each channel. It’s simple brainstorming and nothing technical. So don’t harass me too much if it’s way off. Chevrolet channel: Chevrolet 1) Beat & Groove 2) Cruze, HHR & Orlando 3) Malibu & Camaro 4) Corvette, Impala & Volt (Up here because of price and status) Chevy Trucks 1) Colorado & El Camino 2) Equinox 3) Traverse 4) Silverado & Silverado HD 5) Suburban Pontiac, Buick & GMC channel: Pontiac & Buick 1) Vibe 2) G6, GTO & Delta Buick 3) Lacrosse, Invicta & Riviera 4) Lucerne & Solstice (The top two cars in price, maybe) Buick & GMC 1) Terrain 2) Acadia & Buick Theta 3) Canyon 4) Sierra, Sierra HD & Savanna 5) Yukon & Enclave Cadillac & Saab channel: Saab & Cadillac 1) 9-1 2) 9-3 3) 9-4X & SRX 4) 9-5 & BTS 5) CTS 6) DTS & Escalade 7) Cien & Sixteen Saturn & Saab channel Saturn & Saab 1) Agila 2) Corsa/Tigra 3) Astra/Meriva 4) 9-1 5) 9-3 & 9-4X 6) 9-5 *** CHANGES: The traditional Saturn channel adds the opportunity for a Saab franchise. Saturn and Saab are GM’s weakest dealers. By giving Saturn dealers the opportunity to pick up a Saab franchise, we can give them a much better mix of profitable vehicles and, theoretically, more marketing money. These products, (on a profit potential basis) along with the new Saturn product, will hopefully allow the Saturn dealers to compensate for the loss of Aura, Sky, Vue and Outlook sales. By allowing Saab dealers the chance to adopt a Saturn franchise, we can give them some much needed volume. and we can establish a bigger footprint for the Saab brand. This will also allow us to expand Saturn's unparalleled customer service to the Saab brand, which could also be another strong selling point to kick start the division. In urban areas, this would also allow for a GM dealership that is not distinctly GM to the common buyer. (As bad as that sounds) The only wild card is Cadillac. I think, given it’s 'book end' status that Cadillac will eventually be strong enough to stand on it’s own everywhere. However, Saab continues to provide a good entry level brand for Cadillac dealers, especially if Cadillac continues to move up market in the manner that my plan outlines. Likewise, Cadillac dealers continue to help expand the Saab brand. So, for now, the Saab division can exist in both channels for the greater good of the corporation.*** SECTION 5: PERFORMANCE & SPECIALTY MODELS: Gone are the days of slapping a performance logo on a product simply because you made improvements to the product that bring it UP TO PAR with the class (Equinox Sport, G6 GXP, Lucerne Super, etc.) Each division, except Chevrolet, will have a more focused line up of ‘specialty models’ This will elevate the desire to own the products and give the divisions more individual identity to market. As for Chevrolet, well, they are the volume division so they’ll get more specialty vehicles than any other division to simply cover the market and better establish their branding (Just in case the divisional structure implodes some day) Chevrolet: Specialty Designations: SS & Z. In the Chevrolet car world, SS will mean style and performance, much as it does now and the Z prefix will mean high performance. The Z suffix will be phased out in favor if a simpler LS/LT line up. (Same cars, just badged as LT now) Example: The Camaro will come in SS form and then an even hotter (and lower production) Z28. SS will be the top performance option on sedans as the Z moniker can only be given to coupes. SS Cars: 1) Cruze 2) HHR 3) Malibu 4) Camaro 5) Impala Z Cars: 1) Cruze (Coupe) 2) Camaro 3) Corvette (You can’t “SS” a Corvette) Cars with NO performance trim: 1) Beat & Groove 2) Orlando 3) Volt Chevy Trucks: Specialty Designations: SS & Z. In the Chevrolet truck world, SS will mean top-notch performance while the Z prefix/suffix will mean off road capability or luxury amenities. For example; the Silverado Z71 won’t carry the same character as the Suburban LTZ SS Trucks: 1) El Camino 2) Equinox (The spiritual successor to the Trailblazer SS) 3) Silverado Z Trucks: 1) Colorado 2) Silverado 3) Suburban (LTZ -- Consider it the spiritual replacement for the Yukon XL Denali and Escalade ESV) Trucks with NO performance trim: 1) Traverse 2) Silverado HD Pontiac: Specialty Designation: GXP. Pontiacs, especially the entry level Pontiacs in the market will already be tuned to higher performance specifications than anything else GM offers. Remember: under promise and over deliver. If people are looking to buy from this division and channel for the first time, we want to put our best effort forward automatically. 1) Vibe (GXP – This GXP will not be as expansive as the G6 and Solstice because the Vibe, being the entry point needs to already be VERY impressive, from a performance aspect, in base trim) 2) G6 (GXP) 3) GTO (Just like you can’t “SS” a Corvette, you can’t “GXP” a GTO -- Expect a "Judge" package to surface as a limited run) 4) Solstice (GXP – The Solstice will already be very performance biased, the GXP should propel it firmly PAST the base model Corvette at the track, with even more potential) GMC: Specialty Designations: Alpha & Denali. GMC will appeal to all truck buyers now. They can buy a standard model or they can tailor their choice to luxury via the Denali trim, or they can go off-roading with the help of the Alpha trim. Keep in mind, the Alpha trim is explicitly designed to be good off-road. It isn’t a poseur package like Z71 or SR5. Alpha is supposed to bring in Hummer and Jeep buyers. (Yes, I know that most Hummer owners never went off road, blah, blah blah, but you get the picture) Alpha models: 1) Terrain (Spiritual successor to the HX) 2) Canyon (Spiritual successor to the H3T) 3) Sierra (Z71 replacement, except actually different. The least extreme Alpha) 4) Yukon (The spiritual successor to the H2 & H3) Denali models: 1) Canyon 2) Sierra 3) Yukon Models with no performance designation: 1) Acadia 2) Sierra HD 3) Savanna Buick: Specialty Designation: Super. The Buick Supers will be much like they are now, except better. The performance is more luxury biased than barn burning and the badge is more about the complete package than what is under the hood. Here’s the breakdown: 1) Delta (None – Just needs to be a well executed, almost loaded, luxury small car/entry point to the brand) 2) Theta (None – Yet again, a small, well executed entry point to the brand) 3) Lucerne (None – With interest in large cars apparently falling, Chevrolet can occupy the ‘performance’ niche with it’s more capable Impala. ) 4) Lacrosse (Super) 5) Invicta (Super) 6) Riviera (Super) 7) Enclave (Super) Cadillac: Specialty Designations: V-series & Platinum trim. Cadillac did everything right with the CTS-V, so it needs to stay the course with the new models. The Cien and Sixteen are supposed to represent the very top of their classes, so the policy there is that, for now, this is the best we have to offer. Once the brand is established, if needed, the V moniker can expand. Here’s the breakdown: 1) BTS (V) 2) CTS (V) 3) DTS (V) 4) SRX (Hybrid – This is a great place to start Cadillac’s hybrid/E-Flex revolution. Not to mention, Theta won’t take the V treatment too well IMO) 5) Escalade (Platinum – In this market, there is no need for a full blown V series Escalade, so the Platinum trim remains the top option. But the good platform is there so that a V series edition can be executed in the future if need be.) Saab: Specialty Designation: Aero. The main thing dictating Saabs level of performance is Cadillac. Since, in some instances, they share the same channel and Cadillac is a better platform for performance vehicles, the Aero trim will be restricted to small cars only (The 9-1 and 9-3) The 9-5 and 9-4X need to showcase technology as their selling point. Saturn: Specialty Designations: Redline & Greenline. Saturn is GM’s fashion division, so the emphasis is on efficiency and style and how that relates to performance. Greenline will be promoted as the top designation for efficiency in the market. For example; the Agila Greenline should be the most efficient gasoline powered vehicle ever made. Redline vehicles will be Opel OPC vehicles that have been brought to the states. That reduces development costs, and hey, why not bring some of the hottest Euro performance cars here for our consumption? Greenline vehicles: 1) Agila 2) Corsa 3) Meriva 4) Astra Redline vehicles: (Opel Performance Center vehicles) 1) Corsa/Tigra 2) Meriva 3) Astra *** CHANGES: Pontiac models are altered for even more emphasis on performance with the Vibe adding a GXP on top of an already impressive package and the GTO adding a limited production "Judge". Saturn Greenline models are altered to show the companies continued commitment to efficiency, now highlighted by smaller offerings. Saturn Redline models are altered to emphasize an image of premium compact performance and further seamless integration with GME's Opel unit.***
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Everyone has yet to tell me why being loyal to one company is such a bad thing... Especially on a site that is dedicated to the future of that company. Are you going to sit there and tell me that you're not loyal to Honda after the way you described them in the last post? See, that's what's wrong with people of this mindset. They ABSOLUTELY cannot accept that someone is different from them. They want HOMOGENY and will push until they get exactly that. It reminds me of the extreme liberals in my home town... Bitching one day about tolerance and then PROTESTING a church the next day. Hypocritical...
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Globalization... The more you scatter the superpower, the more control you as a business man (the elites) will have over it. America HAS no culture now... It's "the melting pot" in which we value where we came from more than what we are. america is nothing more than a $5 whore that serves the purpose of making the rest of the world rich and fat. And that's what they want... We were the only country that had the ability to fight the WTO, yet we were easily sold on a 'peace, love and happiness' global business model that does nothing more than strip us of our value and ot the empire from the inside out. It's time to pay the piper
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So, the strides that GM has made to appease the LARGE percentage of the market that wants/needs V8s doesn't count because it doesn't fit the 'yuppie definition of efficiency'? See, that's why I get so mad about people in this country. You sit there and tell me to take off my GM blinder when you're too blind to see your own flawed categorization. THAT is the inherent culture in this country, EVERYONE is a hypocrit. And it's about to bite them in the ass. Maybe... Had the transmission issues ACTUALLY made the mass media, th perception might've changed. Same thing with all of the defective Toyotas that the internet has been firing up about lately. But know, it's hard to bring the silver bullet in when there are built in metal detectors. The media will NOT ALLOW the perception to change and they'll do ANYTHING, even reporting LIES, to stop it from changing. I don't know why the media hates Detroit so badly. I can't explain why their is such a solidified and almost PLANNED hatred of the domestics among specific demographics. (Demographics which all happen to control popular culture, not surprisingly) But nonetheless, we're reduced to reading Cimarron references in an article about the forthcoming BTS. Really?!?!? Give me a break!!! People don't just PERCEIVE... It isn't that easy. They are fed opinions that skew perception. Now, does this immediately affect opinion? Not really, but hey, we've been reading the WELL REHEARSED "GM is bankrupt" routine for 3 years now, and we all know that if you hear something enough, you'll begin to believe it.
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Wow... What a bunch of lame people. I guess we can all drive our homogeny white, homogenized Toyotas into a bright future.
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"The American Dream" and that way of life has been under attack from the 'educated' lot for a LONG time now. It's almost like a "well, isn't that a nice little sheltered life you have there" rebellion against everything that made this country great. They preach "live simple" but 'living simply' to them isn't a decent paying job, pride in hard work or involvement in the community. No, THEIR version of 'living simple' is buying a Honda Civic in an attempt to SAVE our national security... (Less oil use) 'Living simple' is adopting an african baby in an attempt to stave off hunger (when thousands of americans starve to death each year) Their version of 'living simple' is buying it cheaper at Wal-Mart so they can save a little bit of money to buy carbon credits from the EU. (REMEMBER, the latest Wal-Mart marketing??! "live simple") And thanks to MISUSE of things like 'freedom of speech' we've allowed this to happen BELIEVING that their would never be any consequences. It's a sell-out mentality, either out of spite or out of ignorance. How can we fix the world when our empire is falling out from under us? But no, they don't care about that because they've somehow through their 'education' deemed "The American Dream" unworthy of saving. I say we let them cut their own throats. I'm a survivor and I'm willing to endure for the sake of taking these people out of power/influence.
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I guess we got our answer about the future of Holden
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FUTURE_OF_GM replied to FUTURE_OF_GM's topic in The Lounge
Thanks for all of the kind thoughts guys. Balthy: The majority of my wrecks happened in my hometown. This is the first time that Charlotte has taken a bite out of me. smallchevy: Yeah... I think we are mourning the Cavi. Both of us hated (It was more of a constantly annoyed thing than hatred) the car and talked badly about it because it was SO uncomfortable, especially for me, and cheap. But the fact remains that it was a damn good car. The GF put it through hell, didn't maintain it like she should've, drove it hard and it NEVER once left her stranded. Case in point; 2 of the injectors were bad (or in the process of going bad) before this happened and it still happily took us anywhere we wanted. We had planned to try and nurse it home for the holidays and have the injectors replaced. And before the injectors went bad, it handily destroyed my Focus in the fuel mileage war week in and week out. That's one reason that I am so passionate about GM... The car was annoying and cheap, but mechanically it was an amazing piece that could take almost any form of punishment you threw at it. And I think THAT'S what people don't understand about GM cars... The perception of cheapness takes precedence over reality and GM was very foolish for not understanding this and remedying the situation while it was still an easy fix. 68: Oh yeah, you can BET that I'll be doing something to the badging if I get an asian rental this time. Especially with the economic crisis and Detroit's relationship to it. Then again, it'll be the GF's car, so I'll have to get her permission first, LOL. Quick update: The GF is really sore. (I haven't went into details about her for sake of privacy, I figure she can log on and participate if she wants) Looking back, I think the impact affected her worse than me. In the Cavi, I'm pretty wedged in to the car because of my size, so if I'm hit, my body can't really move all that much. I think her body got jolted worse because she could thrash around more. Not to mention, I'm 3 times her size so I'm sure I can absorb an impact better. I'm not that bad. It's almost like a "I haven't worked out in a while" sore. The doc gave me some painkillers but I don't believe in taking painkillers unless I'm dying, so I doubt I'll even fill the Rx. One of the worst parts is where they gave me the tetanus shot... I'm a big sissy when it comes to needles and man is that $h! sore today! -
It was my understanding that both Dodge AND GM were pulling out... (Ooops, maybe I shouldn't have said that )
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Yeah... Because that's EXACTLY what GM needs.... GOVERNMENT BUREAUCRACY on top of it's own BUREAUCRACY.
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No one here gives GM a free pass. In fact, people bitch more about mundane issues here than on most ALL INCLUSIVE automotive websites. IN GENERAL: I get so tired of the import people coming on here to say "what now" in threads like this. If you guys can't see the bias in the media and the unfair advantages that the 'transplants' have, then you're blind. Did GM screw up?!?! Of course they did! No one here denies that (No one that I know of) but the fact remains that 95% of GM's vehicles over the last 15-20 years have excelled at what they do, yet the BIAS still remains. Can you honestly sit there and tell me that MOST of the public doesn't stereotype GM and it's buyers a certain way?!?! Because I can show you footage of CONGRESS that says otherwise. If our supposed LEADERS don't even have a clue, then what makes you think that the public/media perception is based in any sort of reality? I think some of you just can't stand the fact that a lot of us are so loyal to GM and what it represents. You think we are shallow minded 'redneck localites' that drive 1990s Roadmasters around our 500 person town and "just 'don't get it." All of this assumption is because we value the history of this (ONCE) great nation, the history of innovation that GM has fostered, the sustainability of the middle class and the pride of employing thousands and CREATING something that changed the world. (And will once again change the world when the Volt comes down the production line) To you I say; continue to hold your 'grudge' and watch you quality of life go down the drain, because with the mindset that you and your fellow americans hold, it's going to be a good show!
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This is When Toyota runs an ad about how unethical it's business practices are and when the government runs an ad about how they suck so bad at their ONE task that they allowed the economy to crash, then maybe this ad would be appropriate. This is NOTHING MORE THAN AMMUNITION FOR THE JADED PRESS TO 'HAVE A LITTLE MORE FUN' DESTROYING GM'S IMAGE IN THE EYES OF THE PUBLIC. The first "touchy, feely" campaign didn't work... It made GM an even bigger laughing stock. And, just as they did with the first campaign, the media will capitalize on this. Let me put it to you in psychological terms; this is JUST what the media and jaded public needs to REINFORCE their horrible perception of GM through CONFIRMATION BIAS This is just the ammo they need to write GM off entirely.... And while we're at it; here is a term that can sum up government and the japanese companies: SELF-SERVING BIAS (P.S. I can't tap you guys into academic journals, so wikipedia it must be)
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FUTURE_OF_GM replied to FUTURE_OF_GM's topic in The Lounge
LOL. Yeah, those hitches do a remarkable job of "defending your rear" A guy in a '67 Camaro plowed into our '96 K1500 (back in the day) It bent the bumper brackets and hitch on our truck and absolutely DESTROYED the Camaro. I shed a tear for that car... -
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FUTURE_OF_GM replied to FUTURE_OF_GM's topic in The Lounge
You know, I never have been a proponent of buying an SUV just because... But now, after being drilled in the back 2 times, an Equinox or something of that nature is looking more appealing each day. Another funny fact to lighten the mood... It took 6 guys to lift my big ass into the Medic unit, LOL. I felt so bad for that, but I can't help that I'm 'one of those big mountain men' LOL. -
Well, I'll give you the drama, drama version of it.... Many of you remember back in 2005 when I totaled my first Focus. I was sitting in the road and an 18 wheeler doing 45MPH hit me in the rear. I walked away with sore muscles and not much else. Today, the GF and I were carpooling to school. Luckily, I decided to wait for her and just ride with her instead of taking my own car. We get 300 yards from the entrance to school and BANG!!!! I had a bunch of books that I was going to sell back to the bookstore for cash. I sat them on the airbag on the dash and joked (as I have many times with various things) that if the airbag deployed, I'd be toast. Today we were sitting at a stoplight on a divided highway then I heard this massive series of bangs combined with my body jolting in all different directions and everything went black for a split second. This is where the similarities get eerily close to my 2005 wreck. I opened my eyes to smoke and a burning smell (just like in 2005) My first reaction was to get out of the car, but the door was jammed (just like in 2005) except this time I was the passenger and it was jammed because a late model Dodge dakota was sitting against it. Then I realized that my GF was driving the car. She was very upset and seemed to be shocked. I usually am able to keep cool in horrible situations and think my way out (after all I've been through this 6 times now) I started to comfort her and told her to turn the car off and get out (into the median) I put the car in park, out of instinct I guess and we crawled out of the car. By this time I had realized that I was bleeding really bad out of my nose and that my hand was dripping blood. Just like in 2005, a law enforcement person watched the accident happen (This guy was SBI) he immediately blocked the lane and checked on all of us and informed us that he had called 911. At this time, I realized that the airbags had deployed and put it together that one of my books (that had been laying on the airbag) apparently had hit me in the face and caused my bloody nose. One of my books had flown out of the back window of the car (just like my sunglasses in 2005, that came off of my face and flew through the back window) and ended up IN FRONT of the car. A second book had flown out of the back window and ended up wedged between the windshield wiper and front windshield. By this time, the first emergency person had arrived and was asking us about our backs. I was having moderate pain so they put a c collar on me and strapped me to a backboard. They promptly did the same to my GF and transported us to the hospital. They x-rayed my chest (SOP since the airbags deployed) my c spine and my hand (the one that was bleeding) They x-rayed my GFs chest, c spine and knees. She was released with swollen knees and legs and pulled muscles. I was detained because "something in your neck doesn't look right" Then they did the CT scan, told me that I was okay barring the pulled muscles and cuts, but that I have the beginning signs of arthritis in my neck. I've had a headache and nausea all day (either from the blow to the face or the lack of caffeine and food for 20 hours) Or maybe it's just nerves. Funny, the thing that hurts the most is the burn from sliding on the seat (on my back), LOL. The GF is still pretty upset. Like I did with my first time, she keeps thinking about it and getting freaked out. I'm doing okay, except that I'm still picking glass out of my pockets and clothes. I've been raised in emergency services. My dad has been in the field for 28 years (I'm 26) and this is the first time I've ever actually experienced what they do. My GF and I were so grateful for everything they did, even down to talking to us while we were upset and giving me a burger in the ER after I told them I hadn't eaten anything for 20 hours. Apparently, an old man in a Dakota had tried to switch lanes to avoid hitting us. He didn't even hit the brakes, plowed into us at 45MPH hitting the rear corner behind me (same as in 2005, even the speed) That, in turn, pushed us under a Jeep and pushed the Jeep into the car in front of it. Automatically (like I have in wrecks before) I went to his truck to see if he was okay. He was moving around, so I assumed the best. He later apologized to me and hugged my GF. I found out that when he hit us he was on his way to cardiac rehabilitation for a massive heart attack that he had suffered not long ago. This made my heart sink more. It was just a bad situation all around. The Cavi... Loyal servant to my GF (she put that car through hell, literally, and it NEVER left her stranded) is dead. It was mangled on both ends. The subwoofer is in the back seat (the trunk is gone) and it's leaking transmission fluid like a sift. It really is amazing that our cars are engineered so well that they can take a hit like that from both corners and still allow us to walk away. FWIW, the front window is spidered 3 times above where my books were sitting. It seems that, lucky for me, the books had hit the windshield first, then made their way to my face. It's times like these that make me really count my blessings. You guys know how cynical I am. Part of me wants to cheer and beat my chest because I've now walked away from 6 accidents in 8 years. Of those 6 accidents, I've totaled 5 cars and came within $500 of totaling the 6th. NONE of them my fault. The other part of me wants to hide somewhere and sink into anxiety about what NEXT year will bring.