A Horse With No Name

+1 Chris

+1 Chris

And actually, I find it interesting that even my friends that will only buy Japanese cars find this model Acura hideous. Chris

We have a client at work who has several family memebers who compete in Derby's all over the midwest. They have run a lot of cars which started out MUCH nicer than this. Sad to say, but true. Chris

Who said you were laughing alone? Trust me, there are plenty of other people out here laughing with you. Chris

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Actually I was the foreman for the electrical work in the downtown Y, I can tell you some stories.... Chris

QUOTE(moltar @ Aug 7 2008, 06:20 PM) [snapback]417875[/snapback]The '60s Mustangs have been in a few cases related to gas tanks because of the absurd drop-in gas tank design (the tank fits through a hole in the trunk floor, exposed inside the car). There was a big lawsuit involving the '78 Malibu also. Another bad thing about alot of old cars were the fuel fillers on the rear panel or behind the rear license plate..seems like a bad place for a fuel filler. Perahps the dumbest MUSTANG design of the era was the 69-70 Shelby. IIRC, the exhaust exited center under the rear, right under the fuel filler location. Darwin at work again, courtesy of FORD. Although in 40 years the number of Mustang accidents where fire is the result of rear end collisions is no greater than any other 60's car. Chris

The problem with this is that the middle class, the traditional buyers of these cars, is shrinking rapidly in this country. Given our economic situation, perhaps GM needs to build busses for city bus routes instead. Chris

Your imitating CARBIZ and enzl in that reality addict thing.... Chris

This means alas even cars like the VW GTI (which wiegh as much as a first gen Camaro) will weigh about what a fully loaded Thunderbird did before Ford did away with it... OUCH! Chris

Actually you bring up a good point...the big C and B pillars of todays cars are wide enough to support the Brooklyn Bridge. It is MUCH easier to see out of an older 50's or 60's era car. Chris

Ditto here, but around me most of the pick em ups are driven by contractors and farmers, and most of them don't do stupid stuff. But go into any junkyard and you will (thankfully!) find a ton of Kia, Toyota, Jeep Compass, etc. which have been rolled over. Chris

Where I live...just outside of Columbus Ohio between Grove City and Commercial Point, in an area called Southern Point. It's nice, kind of semi rural, the city is not growing much in my direction. Lots of houses in my area are on 5 or ten acres, and there are horse farms and log cabins around where I live. My only claim to fame in where I live is actually my 12 year old daughter Joanna's 7th Grade Computer technology teacher. She is Mrs. Fisher, mother of Indy car racer Sarah Fisher. Chris

GM has an EMD locomotive plant in Toronto, right? So it can't all be bad... Seriously, my wife and I were going to visit Toronto on our honeymoon and didn't, kind of glad we skipped it. If you want a liveable gay friendly city with lots of Domestic cars, bring your partner and move to Columbus Ohio. Low real estate prices, LOTS of domestic cars, very laid back place to live. Chris

Thankfully it still comes with a 6MT. The 6MT would push this car ahead of say the Malibu for me, which only comes with an automatic. Let us know what your impressions are when you drive this beast, please. Chris

It's perhaps not as horrible as we are making it out to be, but Acura won't be getting any of my $. IMHO it is still buck ugly. Chris

QUOTE(Sixty8panther @ Aug 7 2008, 05:00 PM) [snapback]417861[/snapback]A word about the famous Pinto accident: - Those girls had JUST FILLED UP that little POS with a full tank of gas - They never put their gas cap back on - It was a dumb move to stop the car half in the slow lane of a highway So let's recap: four young naive girls pull over on the highway and get promptly rear-ended by an 18-wheeled, 20-ton truck.... the open gas tank gushes raw, fresh gasoline out of the filler neck and all over the twised wreck which is now a huge jailcell, contorted into a solid ball of bent up metal. You know what would have helped their chances? A DOT-mandated fire extinguisher in the semi. BTW: You know that little spring loaded-flap that partially closes the fuel filler neck on your car when you take the nossle out of the neck? Thank those girls for that invention. Yeah... there's millions of those retards out there. These people, that think cars age like a fine wine even if kept under a pine tree parked on a soggy muff of moss. These retards are the ones who ensure the cars end up at a junkyard as.... junk, or at best, if they aree lucky they end up as parts cars. It's a sad epidemic, I call it "Barrett Jackson syndrome" You know: I saw some '71 Plymouth something-or-other with a 426 HEMI and white convertible top go through auction on TV the other day for $2,500,000 and still NOT MEET reserve... so OBVIOUSLY my '72 Fury III 4-door hardtop HAS to be worth something like $20,000. Who cares if it does not run, and the heads to the rusty-squirrel-nest 440 blockare in the trunk... and the car has not run in 12 years or been moved under it's own power since 1989.... Oh, and BTW: the carb ran a bit rich when I last drove it so you - might - want to have that rebuilt along with the transmission that has some metal shavings on the dipstick.... It might be a good idea... Okay, seriously $18,500 FIRM, and I keep all the 8-tracks in the glovebox. +1 on the D.O.T. Fire Extinguisher. As much as I get frustrated with government, I'm glad in a way for the DOT. After that horrible Amtrack accident that killed 16 people in the 80's, after that Conrail engeneer was high on Mary J...I am glad to have DOT drug testing for example. Although I have no problem if people want to do that on their own time. ...and +1 on B-J Syndrome.... Chris

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Thanks DF! Seeing that was worth my trip to Cheersandgears today! Chris

QUOTE(Satty @ Aug 7 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]417857[/snapback]Me: for farting Perhaps you've mistaken what end that came out of... ... aren't you possibly just using shit flavoured toothpaste by mistake...or just kissing that much ass? (J/K bro) Chris

QUOTE(FUTURE_OF_GM @ Aug 7 2008, 04:30 PM) [snapback]417846[/snapback] enzl - For always telling me what I don't want to hear, but fear is true. balthazar - Because I admire the fact that he is a MORE EFFECTIVE "stubborn, smart ass" than I am. Camino - Because he always manages to keep the faith when I've "shot the horse before it even ran the derby" with my negativity. Satty - For always busting my balls, but then making me laugh at the very same time. NOS - Well, because everyone else apparently wants to, so why not The OC - For being one of the people that I disagree with the most, but just can't seem to really get angry at. CARBIZ - For always making too much sense. and last but not least, MYSELF for being to resistant to change to EVER be happy about anything GM does. ...and I'll gladly ban you for drivng and owning two badass Camaros. Chris

QUOTE(Satty @ Aug 7 2008, 04:32 PM) [snapback]417848[/snapback]There is a small, ghetto car lot that has a Gremlin sitting back behind, I wonder if they're saving it for the day they become collector's items. ...or the price of scrap goes up... Chris

Exactly! What we really need is to have a good driver training program for drivers, esp new drivers. Our local SCCA region teamed up with the Tire Rack to offer a teen safe driving school. They did smart things like bring in a Semi and park cars around it, like the semi was in traffic. They then made all of the teens sit in the drivers seat of the semi so they could make them realize how big the semi's blind spots were. They brought in a large purple Barney dinosaur, and then detonated the airbags from an old Jeep Cherokee while Barney was unbelted and sitting next to the steering wheel. Barney took a flying trip over one of the light poles in the parking lot...that made an impression too. Then the parking lot was wetted down and the teens were put in there own cars in an autocross type situation (with orange traffic cones) and a race driving instructor in the passenger seat. It was great fun to watch all of the teen drivers try to keep control of their cars in a diffucult but controlled situation. It was also really fun to wartch my friend Sue, who is an SCCA rally navoigator and an SCCA G Production racer (she races a Datsun 510). She got teamed up with a boy who had armour-alled the seats in his hand me down late model Mercury Marquis...It was sooo much fun watching Sue and the driver try to "hold on" as the buig merc went through the paces and had all of that body roll. But for its size the big merc did pretty well on the Autocross course. Mid Ohio has a similar program, under the partial sponsership of Honda. But I digress...half the problem would be solved by better driver education. Another bog portion would be solved by more serious penalties for drivers that should not be on the road. Chris

QUOTE(moltar @ Aug 7 2008, 11:02 AM) [snapback]417766[/snapback]That I don't remember..I can't recall the last time I saw a Firenza or later Skyhawk. But I did see a late 1st gen ('87-88 or so) Sunbird convertible in decent shape recently.. First gen Sunbird-Cavalier were decent cars. GM should have killed them off before they brought out the second gen. Chris