Camino LS6

Always liked it - still do.

Ebay specials?

They used big block El Camino SSs in Vietnam for this duty. The bed provided an ideal platform.

Well, the Camaro does have a history of doing well in tough times. I predict that it exceeds sales expectations and surprises quite a few people.

Who would buy any of those piles?

Seen the previews - something about it just turns me off. I know that's not fair having not seen it, but it's just a gut reaction to the premise.

Yeah, that pic represents an unfulfilled automotive need for me. I tried to order one when they were new, but none of the local GMC dealers could get an allocation. So I ordered a Tahoe. Which came in in the wrong color 9 months later. I told them to keep it.

No argument from me!

The dirt is an improvement...

OK fine. Here is the post I got that from. I misread it. The G8 outsold every Saturn product individually not combined "The only other cars to go up for GM include Astra,Traverse since it had no other place to go since it's new and Hummer H3T (same reason). So, bright spots are few and the G8 looks to be pretty stable so far, all things considered and compared to everything else on the GM sales floor the G8's holding its own, not stellar but OK. G8 outsold every Buick car model, all Cadillacs except the CTS, all Chevy cars except Impala, Malibu and Cobalt, all Saturns and all other Pontiacs except the G6, and all Saabs too. Not bad for a large, heavy RWD car." Happy now?

... and now it has been. But to be fair, the Ranchero was first. The Camino was just better.

QFT! Sorry to see that this happened, CD.

I was hoping someone else would remember the Cameo, it was certainly a milestone truck (if only for the styling).

That's been my life since '85. It has kept me in pretty good shape over the years.

Thanks guys. But seriously, check out that whole thread over there - there are some real eye-openers when comparing the G8 sales to other products. It's worth the read.

Amazing. I find a nugget of good news about a good GM product and have to defend said nugget to the nth degree. Sad. I thought that the news of the G8 doing surprisingly well in these days of near- Depression and GM's impending doom might be a bit better received around here. Silly me.

Even if I could hold my nose long enough to make the deal, the car's fate would be sealed. I would never be able to resist the temptation to take my 20lb. sledgehammer to it. God! That would feel great!

I can't really disagree with that. But, remember that a huge swath of GM's products are in much worse trouble than the G8 saleswise. The G8 is at least putting up a fight and establishing a loyal following of buyers who love their cars. And that alone is of major value to Pontiac, selling a car that the owners love is a good thing as opposed to selling one that people merely resign themselves to.

It fluctuated between 30K and 50K depending on how many variants were to be offered. (wagon, Ute, V6, V8 etc.) I can't swear to it, but I seem to remember the last "official" target as being at the low end of that range.

Satty, the exchange rate change a while back gave GM a much wider margin on the G8. So consider that as well as the fact that the car is actually gaining ground in the face of what even you can't argue is the most inhospitable market conditions for a car of its type in living memory. Cut the car a break, it is doing very well in the face of impossible odds. And, imagine this, it isn't a torture device like most of the crap being foisted on us these days. G8 owners actually enjoy their cars.

DF: Two things, the G8 was never intended to sell in numbers like that - it was never part of the business case for the car at all. It is a niche model. Secomdly, I'll say it again, Holden CANNOT build that many anyway. Apples and oranges.

True. But such numbers are not required for profitability on the G8, I suspect they are on the Charger.

IT CAN'T outsell the Charger no matter what! Holden simply can't build the car at that rate! SHEESH!

I wouldn't pay $14.50 for one.

The G8 is FAR from mainstream, and you completely miss the point about being established in the marketplace. Anyone who buys a 5 series over a G8 has more money than brains.