Camino LS6

AWD is out AFAIK, but G8 will get a manual for the '09 models.

Diesels are a good thing, but there are downside items as well. To treat diesel as the solution for ALL cars would be extremely shortsighted. No fuel should again become a monopoloy as gasoline has - we need to learn that lesson well. Some of the negatives are: -Diesel is already more expensive than gasoline -Diesel is not easy to find (trust me, I drive one everyday) -Diesel is much more difficult to bring into emissions compliance -Diesel is a petroleum product, and would not solve the supply problem nor dent our importation of oil enough to matter. -Biodiesel has a host of issues when being used in modern diesel engines from incompatibility with the mechanicals to the tendency to solidify(especially in colder weather). B5 (5% bio/95% petro diesel) can run in most engines and B20 can work in many engines. Beyond those relatively low percentages, the problems become much more significant - especially as you approach B100 (vegetable oil). Technology is progessing on these issues but has an uncertain future at this point. - Manfacturers generally do not build diesel engines to be compatible with biodiesel. So while beneficial, and having an important role in our future fuel supply, biodiesel is far behind e-85 as an immeditely viable alternative. As has been pointed out above, American consumer perception of diesels is less than positive (though largely incorrect). This also will temper the automakers' willingness to bring them to market here. And SMK, your information on ethanol is outdated and flawed - get caught up.

Normally, black is my default choice for a car like this. But, I'm not a fan of metallic black,so...

I can't believe that I've only owned one - so far. :AH-HA_wink:

True that. Believe it or not, the Commodore has offers at least 4 more colors than we have listed in this thread so far. Burgundy = Passion goldish = Sandstorm Dark Blue = Vespers Light blue = Provence

Silver = Nickel

Holden has it: Heron White

Blue = "K-Pow"

Link added to favorites, thanks WMJ!

Ethanol will be able to stand on its own soon. The others are just as important and should be pushed as well, no one fuel should "win" - we should be the ones winning. I hope we have the wisdom to prevent any one enrgy source from dominating our economy again as oil has. Eggs in many baskets would be best.

http://www.goauto.com.au/mellor/mellor.nsf...A2573E0001AA4B7 No wonder PCS got quiet. :AH-HA_wink:

The best thing is that Lutz really, really, gets it.

I like the way you think.

Red = "Redhot" Orange = "Ignition" Green = "Atomic" Yellow = " Crunch" Purple = "Morpheous" I forget the rest

Yeah, that's "Ignition Orange metallic". And your post proves I have a problem to solve. :AH-HA_wink:

Sorry to hear that,DF. Sometimes it's just time. One of these days you and I may have to have a chat about those 'Cudas. :AH-HA_wink: Hope you get your car situation worked out soon.

Picking a color is going to be tough.

Ask and ye shall receive:

I would jump ship for one of those.

I'm with you Reg, but I can see how the CTS wagon could have been a factor for the beancounters.

Chrysler TC "by Maserati"

It's a good read as well.

You might exclude these, but you shouldn't GM Quadrasteer pickups Envoy XUV Avalanche (midgate)

Here's that link: http://www.cheersandgears.com/forums/index...showtopic=22264 Check out the alternative fuels/propulsion section for lots more good information on ethanol, hydrogen,biodiesel etc.