Camino LS6

I almost always hate sedans, but that Caprice is a thing of beauty.

Opel had the junk Omega, Holden and Cadillac got a hold of it. Cadillac gave us a mildly adapted version that remained junk, while Holden turned a mule into a thoroughbred. Which one would you trust with Alpha?

The assassin is a fool.

Should all the predictions of the Zeta platform's demise and the end of performance cars, v8s, and RWD come to pass, I have a suggestion for GM. Preserve one little corner of your empire that is inviolate and untouchable, an island of automotive joy amidst the sea of boredom coming our way. Keep this one small island sacrosanct and immune from the coming disaster. Don't make the error of leaving the good stuff entirely out of the portfolio as was done before. Keep just a few eggs in a different basket. What I am saying is simply this, use Pontiac as the lone standard-bearer for performance cars and let it truly be what it is meant to be at long last. Let this one brand keep the joys of driving alive during the coming dark days and don't abandon those of us who care utterly. Once before, Pontiac has kept the dream alive - let it do so again. No other brand in the portfolio can do this, Camaro and Corvette just aren't enough by themselves and they must share a showroom with the most utilitarian models GM builds. Pontiac, however, can be the go to source for performance of varying sizes and bodystyles. Camaro and Corvette stand alone as icons, and are strong enough to survive amidst the plain vanilla which will flood the market going forward. But, where is the affordable sports sedan? Where are GM's 3 and 5 series analogues? Chevy can't do this, and no other US brand should, except Pontiac. Think it over GM, this could really work.

What these people propose is simply impossible.

This is the reason that an all-RWD, all-Performance Pontiac needs to exist. BMWs are stupid expensive for what you get, that gives a proper Pontiac lineup plenty of margin for profit while looking like the bargain of the year.

I predict that this new FWD Impala wil steal sales from Malibu while tanking in the marketplace. They would be better off with no Impala than a new FWD version.

Following this plan GM itself will get to learn the meaning of "NO". As in " No, I won't buy that little FWD turd."

Since when are striving for truth and striving for yourself mutually exclusive concepts? Sorry, but I don't see much value in this little nugget.

No sweat, Ven. Besides, it seems that the threat is "equal opportunity" anyway.

Nothing could compensate.

That'll be me at that age.

Seems that depends on who is running the show.

Someone is smoking something.

I wouldn't be too surprised to see one.

Just one other aside. Enzl you might be surprised at the things I think are ,have been, and will be, wrong at GM.

Not trying to attack here, but you've gone off on quite a few tangents that have nothing to do with the Volt. Please feel free to start other threads about each of them if you wish.

OK, I'll play. 1) impression isn't fact 2) We don't know if the Volt will happen by the end of 2010, or not. 3) The mere fact that GM is building the Volt is good PR. 4) The Volt will come to market. How well and when are, and have always been, open questions.

You are mistaken about the Volt. No promise was ever made.

OK. The gripe is about Wagoner, not the Volt. Why don't you start a thread about that?

No promises were made and none were broken, this is no big deal. I just don't see what your gripe is about, Enzl.

That is absurd and needs to be fixed.

Both parties lack the brains and the will to do the right thing.

Nothing that matters.