GMTruckGuy74

A BPG dealer I've had contact with over the past 5-6 months regarding some of their used/GM Certified inventory has had the following 2000 Pontiac Bonneville SSEi sedan available for the past two months now: It has a tad less than 71k original miles on it, is a fully loaded SSEi model, and from the pictures and e-mails I've received from the sales lady, the car is in excellent condition for its age. The price they're asking is a little high IMO, but as with all used cars I'm sure it could be negotiated to something better. What I'd like to know is if it would be a smart decision to purchase a 9 year-old car like this, especially since a 24-36 month loan would be needed to buy the car. I'm not saying I will buy this or not regardless of the advice/info, but I would like to get as many PROs and CONs from the knowledgable base here at C&G on this particular year & model Pontiac.

None of the three Chevies I've owned were 'SS' models, though one was a 'Z' model ('92 Cavalier Z24).

None of the three Chevies I've owned were 'SS' models, though one was a 'Z' model ('92 Cavalier Z24).

and to you sir on your 21st birthday! I hope it's a fun and memorable one - but also a safe one too!

Start posting those Pontiac pictures ocnblu!! Time's a wasting.

Please ocn, post those Pontiac pictures. Even though the haters outnumber the Pontiac Enthusiasts here, do it for those of us still in pain over the loss of our favorite brand/division.

A plane? Like a real, people-carrying airplane? More details, please!

Although you saw the truck in person and know 100x more than I do about mechanical conditions, I too am not getting a good vibe from the three pictures you posted (though I do trust your judgment and believe what you've stated about its condition). I noticed the flat-black grille right off the bat, the crooked passenger side mirror (if I'm not mistaken, and I'm pretty sure I'm 100% correct here, those types of mirrors were standard '92-'94 and the black plastic mirrors started in '95), the aftermarket-looking fender flares (though I do know that GM offered them as factory options), and the underside coloring of the hood are what make me cautious. Like Satty already stated, you want to be careful with someone else's wiring manners (haphazardly placed speakers). As for another detail wrong - the hubcap covers should be solid and not have the exposed lug nuts. Am I right?

Am I the only one seeing red X's instead of pictures of the new diecast cars??? And like you Sixty8, I too have been waiting forever (10 years now since the JL Syclones first came out) for a GMC Typhoon. I've got just about all of the JL Syclone releases, except for the last issue (which looks the most stock of them all). Of course I can juts buy it on eBay, but there's no fun in that (I like the hunt at car & toy shows).

AND to you today!!

Good luck! I've been following this thread closely, waiting for this guy to return your call and for you to finally see it. If possible, take some pictures and post them here. I know you really want one of these two-door full-size SUVs, so hopefully something works out for you. I still keep my eyes open for a '92-'97 GMC Yukon 2-door for myself... nothing lately, but I check online auto sites at least once a week.

Visit this link (to GMC.com's official Terrain page) to see the names of the colors to be offered and a cheesy look at what they will look like on the Terrain.

I like the Terrain in the darker colors myself, even if the Carbon Metallic is the only darker color shown so far. I can't wait to see it in the dark red and a dark blue.

A lot of the Ford dealerships here in southern NJ have been combining with Lincoln-Mercury. That means a lot of the Lincoln-Mercury and/or Ford dealerships are closing and merging with one lot. For example, Holman Ford (Rt 73, Mount Laurel) moved 2 miles away to the Holman Lincoln-Mercury dealership lot (Rt 38 in Maple Shade), and Burlington Lincoln-Mercury (Rt 130, Burlington City) moved 10-15 miles away to Miller Ford (Rt 38, Mount Holly). Don't think Ford is alone in this either - Village Chrysler/Jeep (small-town dealership in Pemberton <Fort Dix>) closed and the franchise moved to Lucas Dodge 8 miles away (Rt 38, Mount Holly); the Triboro Jeep franchise (Rt 130 in Delran) moved 5 miles north to Dodge City (Rt 130 in Willingboro), and a stand-alone Chrylser dealership in Willingboro moved to Dodge City 2 miles north. The Triboro Pontiac franchise was moved 10-15 miles away to F.C. Kerbeck (Rt 73 in Palmyra), several Chevy franchises closed and/or merged with other Chevy dealers (Patterson Cehvrolet, Rt 33 in Hamilton Twp, there since 1933, closed & merged with Superior Chevrolet on Rt 1 North in Lawrenceville); the following have closed within the past 6-12 months: Weed Chevrolet/Bristol, PA; 73 Chevrolet/Berlin, NJ; Brandow Chevrolet/Florence, NJ. So you have to travel 15-20 miles in some cases for dealership service (referencing southern NJ, not anywhere else), it's not really that big of a deal for these owners. If fewer dealerships mean better sales & service for the customer with the remaining dealerships, who's gonna complain???

And thanks BrewSwillis for not only posting that you saw the Terrain in white, but for getting a picture of it too. I can't wait to see the other colors it will come in, especially the new dark red (Chevy calls it Merlot Metallic <I think> on the 2010 Equinox). So that brings the color count to three righht now that the Terrain has been photographed in: Carbon Flash Metallic, Quicksilver Metallic, and Summit White:

Yeah, you won't be seeing any of these on the dealer's lots yet. At the NYIAS, the GMC rep's stated that the Equinox would be the first produced & launched by summer, with the Terrain to follow late summer or early fall. I'm not even sure full production has even ramped up yet.

The picture above was taken at my BPG dealership this past Sunday. They've had these flags out there for atleast a year, if not longer. Does anyone know where these flags can be ordered from? I've tried Pontiac Mall and the similar GMC website with no luck. I'd like to get the Pontiac flag ASAP if possible, as I think current GM-licensed Pontiac collectibles may be hard to come by once the lights are turned off at Pontiac. I will definitely ask my dealership when I take the wife's G6 in for service next time if no one here has any leads for me. I figured I'd ask here first :AH-HA_wink:

I agree Chris... here's a picture of my dealership's G8 inventory (they have a few more scattered around the lot too, including 3 GXP models); the Pacific Slate Metallic (V6) on the front end is the one I'd like to have: Here's another shot, just of the Pacific Slate Metallic one: I have been looking online at a really nice, low-mileage 2000 Pontiac Bonneville SSEi, but I'm thinking that if I'm going to go with a V6-equipped car, a brand-new G8 V6 Sedan would be the better choice. I'm just going to have to wait until a pull-ahead program is offered for my lease period or wait until October/November when the lease ends and see what G8 V6 inventory is left and if I can afford one.

Here's her "official" CNBC picture:

On Sunday we happened to be in the area of the Pontiac dealer that has the performance red G5 GT I've shown interest in. Luckily it was unlocked and we were able to sit in it and get a good feel for how comfortable it would be to own and use. I will say that after that experience, I'm less interested in the car. Being a two-door is definitely a big negative, as the "easy slide entry" passenger seat isn't so convenient to use, and is on the passenger side (the side blocked in with the garage wall at my house). It's trunk opening is very narrow and I could foresee it being difficult to load bulky items in there. The fit and finish of the dash & console are in need of some attention before being taken off the lot. Overall, the wife said it's a shame the car isn't available as a sedan and stated that she'd rather have the Vibe GT instead (this dealer already has a 2010 Vibe GT on the lot). This dealer also has the G8 V6 Sedan I'd want if I could get one... Pacific Slate Metallic with Onyx Leather and other upgrades. And like Camino stated in another thread, I am not too thrilled with the prospect of driving a 4cyl engine-equipped car as MY daily driver (like the HHR; great vehicle, but needs a V6 to make me truly happy). I'm going to hold out and see if any G8 deals can happen between now and when my lease ends in November - even if it's for a V6 model. If not, then I'll have to bend my rules and let the wife pick out a Vibe GT for herself and I'll inherit the G6 V6 Sedan that is currently her daily driver.

I agree with your point enzl. However, I have no choice in the matter as I'm waiting for GMAC to offer a pull-ahead program that includes my contract end month (November); at this time they're still only going to October 31st. I just hope that there's something left if and when a pull-ahead program is offered to me!!

K.C., thank you for sharing that information with us. I teach high school kids, and they don't think before they speak. They don't care if someone gets offended by their choice of words, because it doesn't apply to them. However, say something that offends them and watch out! Humans by nature are hypocrites. It's only when we experience something for ourselves do we take the time to make an adjustment or change. As a father of a 3 year old and a step-father of a 15 year old, you have my sympathy on the loss of your son. I can't imagine losing either of them, not what my life would be like without them. You have my respect for continuing on in your son's honor. Because we're on the Internet and don't personally know one another does not give us the right to name call or make assumptions about anyone. And just because you or a small group of posters find something funny doesn't mean that another poster is not hurt by those words. Kindness, respect, and empathy are missing from a lot of people in today's world. Fitting in & belonging to popular groups have replaced moral and ethical standards.

Well, I can't drive stick, so the Cobalt SS would be out of the question (to make it clear, I can drive stick if I had to, but I have a medical condition with my left foot that would prevent me from using a clutch on a continous, daily basis). And if I was going to go through all that trouble, I'd get a Cobalt Sport Sedan (former SS) and put the G5 treatment on that.

I see what you're saying about the value of a Pontiac gm4life and agree with you 100%... I would like for nothing more than to buy a new Pontiac this year. While the Vibe is very slowly growing on me, its Toyota roots will stop me from signing on the dotted line for one (even though I know the wife really, really likes them and would love to have a GT model). I'm just trying to picture the G5 GT Coupe for the next 5-7 years of driving duty - the good thing is that my youngest son will be 9-11 years old and should still fit comfortably in the back seat by that time. I just hate the fact that I don't know what my hauling needs will be like in the next five years and if the G6 Sedan and a possible G5 Coupe would be able to meet those needs. Of course a G8 (V6 or V8) would cancel most of the issues I have ) I like the loaded-up G8 V6 sedan, stickering a tad over $31k... of course the nicer GT models I like sticker around $33-$34k, so they are going to be out of the question unless GM puts cash ont he hood AND low financing rates (not likely for both). I'm figuring that as G8 V6 inventory builds up while GT inventory clears out, GM may put some more incentives on the G8 V6 to move them out and that may be my only chance. I figured the G8 is what I really want, and if I have to go witht eh V6 model to get one than I at least have a G8 (the styling differences between the V6 & V8 are minimal - rims, door handles, and taillight covers). Since I'm not pressured to do something right now, I just have to muster up the patience and hope GM comes through for me and the G8.

Here's me and my son, Justin, at the 2009 NY Auto Show: I forgot we took that picture, courtesy of Chevy, until I was cleaning off my desk and found the card buried under other papers.